Wilforth and Smogs World Cup Collaboration

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  • Smogs
    SBR MVP
    • 12-31-08
    • 4173

    #1
    Wilforth and Smogs World Cup Collaboration
    Me and Wilforth have been exchanging early views about the world cup and thought we should set up a thread aimed at bringing our knowledge together to make better picks.
    Other views are also welcome from posters and i have big expectations that we can make a lot of money.

    The aim:

    58% Strike Rate and 10% Return On Investment

    The plan is that we do not finalise a pick until we both agree with it. Our staking units will be different but we will align on the strength of the play.

    I suggest 1-10 unit staking plan, since i've seen Wil throw some 10 unit plays on here.

    Wil - any other ideas or changes, add them no problem.

    Any picks me or Wil bet but without the other agreeing can be posted here but not recorded in our official thread record.
  • blackf1re
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-31-10
    • 487

    #2
    Good luck.

    But why not stick just to the ROI? Your strike rate says nothing about your net return. You could even end up losing money with a 58% strike rate.
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    • Smogs
      SBR MVP
      • 12-31-08
      • 4173

      #3
      Good point, it was just there as an aim, but overall units are the main aim
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      • TurkzZ
        SBR MVP
        • 01-07-09
        • 4095

        #4
        sounds good, two minds are better then one, drastically reduces the risk of chasing as well lol
        Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR points
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        • Wilforth
          Restricted User
          • 05-10-08
          • 16309

          #5
          Originally posted by TurkzZ
          sounds good, two minds are better then one, drastically reduces the risk of chasing as well lol
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          • Sanka
            SBR MVP
            • 03-29-10
            • 2641

            #6
            BOL guys, let's hope great minds think alike and we can make some coin this WC
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            • Gandev
              SBR Sharp
              • 02-14-10
              • 394

              #7
              Good luck - I'm always following your bets and I'm very interested in your first WC analysis!
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              • Slainte
                SBR MVP
                • 12-13-09
                • 2442

                #8
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                • phenomenon
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-11-10
                  • 3227

                  #9
                  gl brothers
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                  • lakerboy
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-02-09
                    • 94379

                    #10
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                    • pavyracer
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                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82839

                      #11
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                      • aca
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-20-06
                        • 2111

                        #12
                        Best of Luck!
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                        • Shark79
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-19-07
                          • 11211

                          #13
                          Nice setup.
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                          • svenodds
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-12-09
                            • 1790

                            #14
                            BOL boys
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                            • SRBI
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-20-09
                              • 8393

                              #15
                              BOL fellas, looking forward to it
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                              • suckerforparlays
                                Restricted User
                                • 02-15-10
                                • 4536

                                #16
                                lets go South Korea!
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                                • mihaita666
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-13-09
                                  • 8596

                                  #17
                                  this is a good idea. we should make more such pairs :P
                                  Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                                  2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                                  144-95-11
                                  NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                                  17-12-1


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                                  • Tommy_de1st
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-23-10
                                    • 8397

                                    #18
                                    Very good concept
                                    So lets be all advised not to open other threads regarding picks on WC teams. There are too many already.

                                    My idea is to show Yield as well. I can be calculated as follows:

                                    Y=(W/S)-1

                                    W-winnings
                                    S-stake
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                                    • bolekblues
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 12-06-08
                                      • 420

                                      #19
                                      Good Luck
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                                      • simonsolent
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 09-03-09
                                        • 132

                                        #20
                                        Good idea guys, liking the look of this. Roll on next Friday!
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                                        • mihaita666
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-13-09
                                          • 8596

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Tommy_de1st
                                          Very good concept So lets be all advised not to open other threads regarding picks on WC teams. There are too many already. My idea is to show Yield as well. I can be calculated as follows: Y=(W/S)-1 W-winnings S-stake
                                          I will use mine until romanian liga 1 2010/2011 season starts (it starts the first, two weeks before EPL), at the begining of August.
                                          It would be great not to see 5 threads "usa-england", but these things happen and be sure that it won;t be those who are active and old members of the football forum those who will do that.
                                          Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                                          2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                                          144-95-11
                                          NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                                          17-12-1


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                                          • Smogs
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-31-08
                                            • 4173

                                            #22
                                            To follow on from Mihai, i think it would be great if as soon as someone puts up a 'Mexico/South Africa thread', no one then makes another. Then all our views go into there.

                                            Me and wil will have a lot of thought in here but i'll still contribute to daily threads etc.

                                            What we as a forum have to look out for is the people who bet American sports all year round, then come in here for 2 weeks and post a load of shite, including all the abusive stuff when they tail a losing pick. All that crap can stay in the NBA thread thank you very much
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                                            • pavyracer
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-12-07
                                              • 82839

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Smogs
                                              To follow on from Mihai, i think it would be great if as soon as someone puts up a 'Mexico/South Africa thread', no one then makes another. Then all our views go into there.

                                              Me and wil will have a lot of thought in here but i'll still contribute to daily threads etc.

                                              What we as a forum have to look out for is the people who bet American sports all year round, then come in here for 2 weeks and post a load of shite, including all the abusive stuff when they tail a losing pick. All that crap can stay in the NBA thread thank you very much
                                              You need to send a PM to the mods to police the soccer forum during the WC and use the report button to report the trolls.
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                                              • mihaita666
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-13-09
                                                • 8596

                                                #24
                                                good idea, pavy.
                                                Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                                                2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                                                144-95-11
                                                NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                                                17-12-1


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                                                • JOHON8
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-28-10
                                                  • 7712

                                                  #25
                                                  Stick to ROI in my opinion. There are some plays you should concentrate more than others = greater unit wins if you hit the bigger plays.

                                                  Great thread guys.
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                                                  • ji03
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-27-09
                                                    • 1144

                                                    #26
                                                    Two good cappers. I'm expecting good things from this thread.
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                                                    • Goat Milk
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 03-24-10
                                                      • 25850

                                                      #27
                                                      Deadly Duo
                                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                      • Sforz
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-07-08
                                                        • 2221

                                                        #28
                                                        good luck guys, my stuff will be in my thread. lets get em
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                                                        • aunty jack
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 01-17-10
                                                          • 252

                                                          #29
                                                          i know this is off topic, but i'm sure no-one will mind.

                                                          woke this morning to hear of the tragedy in cumbria. sympathy to the brit brigade at sbr.
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                                                          • Smogs
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-31-08
                                                            • 4173

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by aunty jack
                                                            i know this is off topic, but i'm sure no-one will mind.

                                                            woke this morning to hear of the tragedy in cumbria. sympathy to the brit brigade at sbr.
                                                            Real shame about that, my ex-gf lives literally just outside Whitehaven. Cannot believe that stuff has now come to Britain, always hear about that stuff happening in America or Finland but rarely here. Would have to go back to Dunblane for the last instance
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                                                            • Smogs
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-31-08
                                                              • 4173

                                                              #31
                                                              We are starting to see the bookies adjust lines.

                                                              From Bet365, England have gone from 8/15 to 4/9 to beat USA. We need a lot of public money on the USA to try and get the better price on England as i know me and Wil both like that bet.

                                                              Looking at futures, i like either Fabiano or Villa to get the golden boot.

                                                              Slovenia to qualify from group C, Germany to win group D but it's hard to find some real good odds.

                                                              A lot of -200 odds kicking about for group qualification and winning the group.

                                                              Initial first days thoughts are HT draw France/Uruguay and Mexico dnb, but also a small play on the draw. I see a 1-1 there but cannot see the hosts winning it
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                                                              • simonsolent
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 09-03-09
                                                                • 132

                                                                #32
                                                                Agree with you on the Mexico game, I backed them yesterday at 10/11 dnb.
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                                                                • mihaita666
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-13-09
                                                                  • 8596

                                                                  #33
                                                                  oh boy, i cant wait for his to start.....I like Slovenia to qualify too.
                                                                  Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                                                                  2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                                                                  144-95-11
                                                                  NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                                                                  17-12-1


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                                                                  • Smogs
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-31-08
                                                                    • 4173

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Obviously the problem on SBR will be who qualifies from Group C, Slovenia or USA.

                                                                    Lots of squares who can't point Slovenia on a map will unload all over USA, but Slovenia is looking a sharp play. i'll probably be watching Slovenia/Algeria more intently than England/USA from the betting angle of it
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                                                                    • mihaita666
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-13-09
                                                                      • 8596

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Smogs, you know, WC = Euro + Brazil and Argentina, so Slovenia is very likely to be the play
                                                                      Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                                                                      2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                                                                      144-95-11
                                                                      NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                                                                      17-12-1


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