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  • Doc JS
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-15-06
    • 6885

    #106
    He had had a tough nite behind the plate...

    Both sides had been barking about the strike zone. Nate McLouth, who never argues, got tossed, along with Braves manager Freddy Gonzalez, for arguing balls and strikes. Braves pitcher Christian Martinez didn't get a call, turned his back to home plate. Ump takes his mask off and stares Martinez down with the "I'm the bad ass ump" stare.

    The ball beat Lugo by 5 feet. When the umpire called him safe, Lugo hadn't even touched home plate yet. I'm a Braves fan and had $ on the Bravos but that was agawd awful call...
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    • TheLock
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-06-08
      • 14427

      #107
      Finally, a Braves fan who is not letting his allegiance to the Braves keep him from calling it what it was:

      A terrible call
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      • The Bet Master
        SBR MVP
        • 09-29-10
        • 2665

        #108
        Originally posted by crustyme
        you can't go by facial expressions and body language. then every close call at 1b should goto the runner since they always throw their arms in the air making the safe sign.

        youre right about fielders getting the benefit of the doubt at second base especially even when they don't tag or step on the bag but thats the way it's always been.but in the post couple of seasons theyve been calling them safe. many a commentators have mentioned this. but it's never been this liberal when it comes to home plate.

        even had there been replay, it would not have been overturned because all it takes is one angle showing no tag and the center field camera certainly does that.
        WRONG. It takes one camera to show the tag.
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        • DrStale
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-07-08
          • 9692

          #109
          Originally posted by The Bet Master

          WRONG. It takes one camera to show the tag.
          Which one? Havent seen it.
          Originally posted by Dark Horse
          If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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          • The Bet Master
            SBR MVP
            • 09-29-10
            • 2665

            #110
            Originally posted by DrStale
            Which one? Havent seen it.
            You blind son?
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            • DrStale
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-07-08
              • 9692

              #111
              Originally posted by The Bet Master

              You blind son?
              Yeah you keep saying stupid stuff but you arent backing any of it up. There is simply no video or picture I have seen that shows conclusive evidence that he was tagged.
              Originally posted by Dark Horse
              If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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              • TheLock
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-06-08
                • 14427

                #112
                Joe Torre just stated on Colim Cowherds show that Jerry Meals told him that when he looked at the replay after the game he realized he blew the call
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                • The Bet Master
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-29-10
                  • 2665

                  #113
                  Originally posted by DrStale
                  Yeah you keep saying stupid stuff but you arent backing any of it up. There is simply no video or picture I have seen that shows conclusive evidence that he was tagged.
                  Ok again are you blind? You may want to rewatch it.
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                  • eleuropeano
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 05-06-11
                    • 392

                    #114
                    The ump had $10 riding on the ML.

                    Catchers will (should?) prolly start slapping runners in the face after a call like that, just leave any doubt out.
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                    • iQon
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-08-10
                      • 1483

                      #115
                      I think the ump knew they'd still be playing if he called him out. 19 innings? Braves and Pirates? Come on now.
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                      • dj_destroyer
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-28-10
                        • 3856

                        #116
                        I don't need all the pictures that show the tag, I don't need the slow-mo video replays, I don't need to look at Lugo who knew he was out, I don't need simple logic to see that the catcher never tried to reapply the tag because he must have got him the first time... I WATCHED THE GAME LIVE AND IT'S AN EASY FUKKING CALL IN REAL TIME.

                        The fact of the matter is that you give the Pirates the out even if there's a doubt in your mind if he actually tagged him. That kind of play is not the kind you try and make an epic call by saying that the "ole" missed him, especially in the 19th inning! YOU JUST DON'T! Imagine he called him out but there actually was no tag (missed by a few millimeters), do you think anyone would be outraged? NO! That would be the case where you say it was a blown call but a tough one at that.

                        This is a sham and the ump deserves a suspension and no playoff designation this year. PERIOD.
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                        • PittsburghPlayer
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-11-10
                          • 6760

                          #117
                          Agree with dj destroyer.
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                          • crustyme
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-29-10
                            • 16896

                            #118
                            in real time, everyone thought he tagged him on the arm, which was proven 100% wrong via replay.
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                            • myr10
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 01-20-08
                              • 483

                              #119
                              first time i watched it i could tell he was out. you can tell by lugos reaction that he knew he was out.
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                              • RudyRuetigger
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65084

                                #120
                                cant believe i agree with djdestroyer

                                give alot of credit to capdat for his opinion and discussing it reasonably unlike most do
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                                • thetrinity
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-25-11
                                  • 22430

                                  #121
                                  apparently this umpire meals lives in salem ohio, quite close to pittsburgh actually, probably an hour away at most, we have a lot of crazy fans dying for any meaningful baseball at all, id keep a low profile if i was him.
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                                  • DwightShrute
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-17-09
                                    • 103416

                                    #122
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                                    • Scottish
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 12-21-10
                                      • 588

                                      #123
                                      Gwan the Braves
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                                      • CanuckG
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-23-10
                                        • 21978

                                        #124
                                        umps throw the pirates a bone theory today
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                                        • dj_destroyer
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-28-10
                                          • 3856

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by crustyme
                                          in real time, everyone thought he tagged him on the arm, which was proven 100% wrong via replay.
                                          I didn't think he got him on the arm so you can't say "everyone". The first time through in real time, I thought he got him on the leg. The broadcasters said something about the arm... that's about it.
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                                          • xxxvince
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-17-07
                                            • 2567

                                            #126
                                            baseball umpires are dumb
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                                            • Bcatswin
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-21-10
                                              • 13931

                                              #127
                                              I just saw it for the first time, shit's unreal. Bucos got robbed.
                                              I agree with pavers theory!
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