Full Tilt, Pokerstars, Ultimate Bet seized by gov't?

**jwbjwbjwb12** · 04-15-11, 03:12 PM

this shit be crazy my boy got 1300 and just cashed out

**CanuckG** · 04-15-11, 03:13 PM

from 2+2

**OmgUrMom** · 04-15-11, 03:13 PM

will be interesting to see if any withdrawals succeed, if your outside the United States you should be fine in the long haul i think as far as your funds are concerned. (unless stars and tilt decide to fold after this, quite unlikely i would think though)

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 04-15-11, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Emily_Haines

America land of the slaves and home of the cowards.

At least we didnt produce Emily Haines...Do you listen to that crap?...And if you're a dude, I just dont even know what to say...

**Greekster** · 04-15-11, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

I have 4 digits on Pinnacle...should be safe right?

why would you be worried if you have money in Pinnacle. They are offshore. I am assuming you are Canadian and living in Canada?

**southmadejd** · 04-15-11, 03:16 PM

Damn, luckily I lost all my money at fulltilt and pokerstars years ago....lol

**CanuckG** · 04-15-11, 03:18 PM

Yes I am canadian and live in Canada...I'm not worried but all this talk isn't giving me 100% confidence in these 'books'.

**OmgUrMom** · 04-15-11, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

from 2+2

there only charging 11 people tho (at least from what i read), he will not be one of those

**CanuckG** · 04-15-11, 03:21 PM

I know lol

**Greekster** · 04-15-11, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

Yes I am canadian and live in Canada...I'm not worried but all this talk isn't giving me 100% confidence in these 'books'.

lol, I hear ya, but I would think youre safe unless Harper needs votes to get re-elected in the upcoming election haha

**BrigadierPudding** · 04-15-11, 03:22 PM

I'm not going to overreact wrt my money at books until I hear more. There are a lot of big allegations in this indictment. The gambling stuff is almost secondary.

**dialup_king** · 04-15-11, 03:24 PM

Where does it say that payment processors were shut down?

**nosniboR11** · 04-15-11, 03:26 PM

The Unites States Govt. is doing the presteps here. First, destroy the competition, (big sites), Second, pass the laws to regulate it, Third, tax the shit out of it. Be ready for 50% on all your winnings to be taxed. Crazyness, and I dont think they are going after the sportsbooks, YET.

**Niwrad** · 04-15-11, 03:26 PM

This seems less about the poker and more about the stuff they were doing to payout. I think other books would be safe, there is only so much they can do to stop funding.

**Smoke** · 04-15-11, 03:27 PM

You guys that think u can withdrawal today and get paid are idiots.. The government seized all the bank accounts.. Ok, so your telling me you actually think the U.S. Government is going to process ur withdrawal request.. C'mon now got real

**SoV** · 04-15-11, 03:28 PM

I feel sorry for the non-US people who might lose money because of this.

**vyomguy** · 04-15-11, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by SoV

I feel sorry for the non-US people who might lose money because of this.

So, you dont feel sorry for the US people?

**BrigadierPudding** · 04-15-11, 03:29 PM

The story about the former poker stars & full tilt employee turned FBI turncoat is unbelievable.

**Cap dat 4ss** · 04-15-11, 03:29 PM

Wise thing to do is withdraw all money from any offshore account you have that you can't afford to lose. Just happened to cashout at 1 book the other day, will be withdrawing majority of funds from others today, before it's too late.

How long before SBR JOHN is in here telling us everything will ok

**MadTiger** · 04-15-11, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by buzzybuzzy

Perhaps I just don't know enough, but why didn't they just set up operations in another country before all this happened?

It doesn't matter where. Their crimes involved U.S. citizens, so the government will go to every country where there is an extradition treaty in place to find the people named in the indictment.

**mrmarket** · 04-15-11, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by SoV

I feel sorry for the non-US people who might lose money because of this.

Whatever the outcome all the money incoming/outcoming from these sites along with all the processors associated with them is in limbo. That means nobody will be getting withdrawls. My guess is that it will be worst than the UIEGA neteller induced fiasco back in 2006.

Everyone here should be concerned if you play at sportsbook too as they face the same problems with processors. It's not like there is an unlimited pool of them at any time.

**nosniboR11** · 04-15-11, 03:31 PM

It was only a matter of time

**neverstoppers23** · 04-15-11, 03:31 PM

WTF, they really operated within the USA, they were kind of asking for it.

**Roxxyfish** · 04-15-11, 03:35 PM

i am just playing on stars , and i can open any website

**SoV** · 04-15-11, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by vyomguy

So, you dont feel sorry for the US people?

I might not be sure about the laws, but isn't some form of online poker illegal, which is why they've been seized?

Originally posted by mrmarket

Whatever the outcome all the money incoming/outcoming from these sites along with all the processors associated with them is in limbo. That means nobody will be getting withdrawls. My guess is that it will be worst than the UIEGA neteller induced fiasco back in 2006.

Everyone here should be concerned if you play at sportsbook too as they face the same problems with processors. It's not like there is an unlimited pool of them at any time.

Yes, imo, unless the company folds, I see non-US based players being paid.

**LVBOUND** · 04-15-11, 03:36 PM

To the people who said I should play offshore!!!

Ok,

As you might be aware the FBI, just shut down Poker Stars, Full Tilt and Ultimate Bet. It is only a matter of time, before the same thing happens to online Sports Books. My cousin is a semi pro player with 400k in cashes and his best friend (2011 November niner), each have at least 25K on these sites with my cuz friend having over 100k. I just spoke to my cousin and he is freaking out about getting his money, when he tries to withdraw the site was freezing and so on. These are the things that always scared me about going pro from here in Florida. What if this happen to 5D or The Greek.

So listen guys all joking aside, you can think my system is full of shit or whatever, but when I said I wanted to move to VEGAS it was for this reason EXACTLY. I seen this coming a million miles away. I would never trust anymore than a few thousand in 5D. I do not care if you tell me you got 25k in 3 different accounts. The FBI is coming and their is no doubt in my mind. When this happens the lines in Vegas will be even better as their business will start to boom.

Please guys, keep your balances low by withdrawing as much as you can as often as possible.

If you got money on the Poker sites get it off. BODOG is probably next, so watch out their also.

This is a serious message to everyone, if you just understood the stress in my cousins voice right now, you might understand.

Good Luck Guys,

Matt

**SportsMushroom** · 04-15-11, 03:37 PM

he was making 150,000 a day and he fuked it all up? by stealing?

sounds like a retard to me, why the hell are they calling him a genius?

**birdmanweezy** · 04-15-11, 03:37 PM

uncle sam just backdoor'd me and let me tell you he is at least 14 inches

**Greekster** · 04-15-11, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by birdmanweezy

uncle sam just backdoor'd me and let me tell you he is at least 14 inches

hahhaaha , and I bet really think too.

**ChileCheese** · 04-15-11, 03:40 PM

This country has a million problems that need real attention. Their own corporations like GM and Coca Cola never pay taxes and hide everything off shore. Murder, health care, Wars.... Who cares, those god hating gamblers need taking down. ******* dumb cons.

**Full Time Hobo** · 04-15-11, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Iceman

Just started a thread with this article about the guy who took down the online poker industry. http://www.businessinsider.com/boy-g...scandal-2011-4

Leave it to a snitch.
Feel bad for the guys doing this for a living

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 04-15-11, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by ChileCheese

This country has a million problems that need real attention. Their own corporations like GM and Coca Cola never pay taxes and hide everything off shore. Murder, health care, Wars.... Who cares, those god hating gamblers need taking down. ******* dumb cons.

And to all of those who use the "more important things to do" rationale...

Its not like the entire government or the entire DOJ was handling this matter...Of course there are more important matters...and other people are tending to them...

**Greekster** · 04-15-11, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Full Time Hobo

Leave it to a snitch.
Feel bad for the guys doing this for a living

lol...I like the last line in the article. It doesnt sound like sportsbooks need to worry.

**BigSpoon** · 04-15-11, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

I have 4 digits on Pinnacle...should be safe right?

I'm Canadian also, Pinny should be safe since they aren't open to USA.

Its the books that serve Americans that you should be worried about imo. I still got 4 figs each at BetJam, 5Dimes, & Legends.

**Smoke** · 04-15-11, 03:47 PM

If the sportsbooks offshore want to stay in business, they better get rid of their poker software immediately... After reading through several articles it appears a big part of this seizure had to do with the rake that is taken in every hand of poker.. I don't think thebsportsbooks are next UNLESS they don't get rid of their poker rooms.. Plus were talking about they only took down a few poker sites, there are a ton of sportsbooks compared to poker rooms