Originally posted by moneyline
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I am responding ONLY because this damn thread keeps poping back up and I simply can't resist anymore.
Not true. I don't label people who believe in God as idiots. They simply believe something different than me. I do, however, think you are an idiot. No matter what you think you're doing. I know you're not "spreading the word" in the way that God intended. You get by on bullying people. I'm sure you have your whole life....which may be why you are so obviously threatened by confident, intelligent women. You prefer your women to hate themselves and worship you for giving them the time of day. Typical of an insecure individual. So, I think Arnold (as well as myself) thinks YOU are an idiot...not all people who believe in God. I also think you’re an idiot for thinking that a belief as important and life changing as God is a choice that can easily be made. True belief needs to be felt in someone's soul, not decided because it's convenient. And finally, you are an idiot for thinking God isn't going to laugh in your face for thinking your "belief" will save you from being punished for all of your ugliness here on earth.Originally posted by moneyline
Wow, and you say I have an ego? Hey, the difference between you and Mother Theresa is that she did those things out of the goodness of her heart with a genuine desire to help people and it would appear you have done them in order to brag about how wonderful you are. I bet that get's you laid too. Congrats on that. No one cares where you have been and you have no idea what any of us have done to help people. I may not have ever worked at Mother Theresa's home for the dying, but I have gone out of my way to help the people around me any chance I get. I have done everything in my power to be a good friend, girlfriend, sister, daughter, aunt, etc. It is not in my power at this time to travel all over the world helping the less fortunate, so I do it locally. I do what I can. That's what's important.That approach might work on those who never got past the 4th grade, but when you are dealing with a person who has received more education than you (B.A., Master's, J.D. with a semester at Harvard to boot), has traveled to more places around the world than you in a way you could only imagine (www.backpackernation.com -- 70 countries and counting), had done more to help others (elementary school teacher in neighborhood schools, worker at Mother Theresa's Home for the Dying, attorney for the indigent) and done it all in 38 years, as opposed to you falling short despite having many more years on this earth, it just seems disingenuous on your part, know what I mean, Arnie?
Again....nope. Just you. You're the idiot. I judge ignorance on a case by case basis.(now is your chance to explain that not all Christians are idiots, just the ones that have three degrees, have traveled the world and who decidate their lives to the betterment of others -- ooh, I can hardly wait
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Do you blow yourself a kiss in the mirror every morning? I bet you do. Loser. How are you ahead? Did I miss the part in the bible about God's giant scorecard?(or maybe you'll tell me since I don't know you, I can't know that I am well ahead of you in all these ways ... considering I am in the top 5% in all categories, conservatively speaking, the odds are with me, Arnie ...)Comment -
Did god predict tonight's Sox/Rays game? Or did he just predict the outcome of the series? Can you/he get back to me by 4pm Pacific so I can get my bets down?new national id ,cards coming soon .............and GOD predicted it in the bibleOriginally posted by pags11Originally posted by BuddyBearOriginally posted by curiousComment -
God predicts either you accept His Son into your heart or you will spend an eternity away from Him upon death. A further prediction is you won't like that scenario too much.Comment -
If you believe that, good luck. You have zero proof of it, so it is a belief. If you were interested in truth, you would try to destroy all your beliefs, because only truth can be beyond destruction. Instead, you use religion as an excuse to stop thinking. When life presents a problem you confuse finding a fitting scriptural quote with creative thought. And you believe God loves you for such idiocy.
You're probably not harming anyone with your self-hypnosis, but to hold it before others as THE WAY is as absurd as it is amusing.Comment -
Actually, I simply know God loves me. Not for what I do and not for what I accomplish ... He loves me because I am His creation and His child.
It is impressive that you fancy yourself a modern-day Dioygenes ... in search of truth (or the last honest man, for that matter) ... when life presents a problem for you, your egoistic ways take over and you believe, since you are your own alpha and omega, that you can solve it without the help of your Creator.
Funny, though, that approach won't have much pull upon death. And even funnier (not in a ha-ha way, however), that approach leaves you wanting on a day-to-day basis here on earth.
That's too bad. Seems as though you are too smart by half.Comment -
if you cant see the destruction of homes,foreclosure of homes ,in 2009 nebraska will go to the national i d card and so will all states, later they will put chips under your skin like a captured timothy mcveigh to track on gps , and you cant buy or sell [food , gas jobs] without it , l a fires ,and gay marriages , flooding, high gas prices , high food prices ,increase in violent crimes , earthquakes , rigged golf and nba games etc.. , senators sleeping with prostitutes , the euro in the u s a ,terrorism and the iraqi war everyone seems to for get about etc....... and all these catacrosphic unusal events that are getting worse mind you , if you dont notice that stuff going on now , and think you wont need a saviour named jesus christ in this sinful world , your obviously blind to the truth!!!!! accept him as lord and saviour now, your gonna be beggin for him in the future LOCK OF THE CENTURY !!!!!!!!!!Comment -
Yeah.....But the Cubs could win the World Series, so there still might be something to root before the Almighty Apocalypse.....Originally posted by greekComment -
None of that has anyt5hing to do with God, dude. He created, He doesn't control.Originally posted by greekComment -
Yup ...
And yet you still can't accept Him and His Son, as your Lord and Savior. You know He created. And yet you don't accept Him.Originally posted by swede96
Mighty strange. Matter of fact, makes no sense whatsoever. Why am I not surprised? Dude ...Comment -
Well said. I don't participate in the imaginery friends industry because the thing that I believe created this environment ( namely hydrogen and gravity, that's it) has a hands off approach.Originally posted by swede96Comment -
Moronline, come up with some new material...this stuff is crap. I love how you never respond when I have a strong point against you. Typical insercure coward.Originally posted by moneylineComment -
Right, I wasn't saying that I believe God created everything...just that according to those that do (and have actually read the bible) he created and gave us free will, the rest is up to us. Praying isn't going to bring our boys home or change our government.Originally posted by RageWizardComment -
Typical Swede. Patting herself on the back for imaginary good points, while making a contradictory statement right here on this page.
She says God created, but doesn't control, and then, in this very thread has said she doesn't believe in God and Jesus as of yet.
How funny.
Something Swede would say: "I believe God created the universe. I just don't believe in God yet."
Swede, watch out. Mensa will soon be calling ...Comment -
How stupid are you? Do I need to put "If I believed in God, which I don't..." in front of each post, or do you think maybe your wee brain can comprehend that I do not believe in God, and assume that any time I make a statement like that, I mean IF there is a God?Originally posted by moneyline
Your ignorance is exhausting.
Oh, and my points aren't imaginary...they're right in front of you in black and white writing...but based on the "reading comprhension" you've demonstrated...I'm not suprised that you skip over the posts with the big words.Comment -
Oh, Swede, your backpedaling is adorable. So what you meant was God creates (if He exists), but he doesn't control (if He exists) ... so this fictional being creates but doesn't control.
You are writing about what a fictional character does and does not do? Wow. That's even stranger than I first imagined.
Oh, and thanks for the laugh ... you put "reading comprhension" in quotes so I don't miss it and then don't even have the intelligence to spell it correctly. I admit it was hard to read. Most misspelled words are.
I certainly am "suprised" ... even surprised ...
Now, stop writing. You are only proving what most people suspected about you. And that's not productive.Comment -
I type fast. Deal with it. You can tell the people in forums who are nothing but hot air by the fact that thier best argument is that someone spelled something wrong.
Make up your mind...is God fictional, or not. Look who we have backpedaling now!
Does the bible say that God created us and gave us free will, or does it say that he is a giant puppet master pulling the strings? Thank you. End of discussion. I should have known better than to even try to get a logical post out of you.Comment -
Wow, you really are a horrible, ugly, and mean-spirited human being.Originally posted by moneylineComment -
Originally posted by Dazzez
You should know, he's being a pussy cat today compared to how he usually acts.Comment -
Swede, darling, I've always maintained a belief in God. You are the one who is actually saying what a fictional character does and does not do. Why, I have no idea. Most people who don't believe in God don't take the time to say He created the earth.Originally posted by swede96
For your education, God creates, does not control, but (if you ever did read the Bible) you'd see He not only welcomes prayers, but also answers them (although not always in the way you think He should). So by you thinking prayers are meaningless, well, that just shows your lack of knowledge.
I keep trying to give you the benefit of the doubt when it comes to ignorance. You keep making it so hard to do so.
Oh, and I have MANY problems with your arguments and the way you express yourself. Your spelling mistakes are just funny because you are putting my intelligence into question, all the while not knowing how to spell the very word.
Ironic. Look it up or ask a friend. It'll be your word of the day!Comment -
This should clear it up once and for all that God does exist...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25338128/?GT1=43001
TAMPA, Fla. - Police said a man named God was arrested near a Tampa church for selling cocaine.Comment -
Even God is barrelled in, Willie. Phuck me!Comment -
All I know buzzy is when I get to the Pearly Gates, St. Peter can't really bring up that PI charge from 1976 any longer. If he does, all I got to say is, "Oh yeah, well God got arrested for pushing cocaine." I'm feeling better about my chances in the afterlife now.Comment -
So what does this have to do with the Bible and God? Nothing at all. You just pull things out of your ass and stick it to God. I don't think he appreciates the smell that you put on him. I will reword myself: none of what you just said proves the Bible or God in any way. It only proves you're a moron.Originally posted by greek
Damn, it takes so many rational people to heal a couple mentally retarded in this thread. And it never ends.Comment -
Funny, you think you can heal thyself ... and yet you still continue to bleed, oblivious as always ...Comment -
You don't know that. You're believing that. Again.Originally posted by moneyline
See, I don't care about your relationship with God, Spirit, the Creator, or whatever you want to name it. That should be your business and yours alone.
But you feel the need to 'spread the word'. That's where you go wrong. Keep it to yourself, and stop bothering people with your beliefs. Leave everyone the right to their beliefs.
And if you meet someone who has either risen above belief, or has destroyed all his/her beliefs, then pay attention. And if, by some miracle, you should ever reach that state, then I will pay attention to what you have to say.
The blind cannot lead the blind. And you, my friend, do not display the signs of one who sees.Comment -
I just applied to the seminary because of moneyline's words. A true leader indeed...Comment -
I guess I've just been fortunate enough to meet one of those people. Please elaborate on the concept(s) of "rising above belief" and "destroying all of one's beliefs". Since you've so obviously had the ability to do both, surely you can articulate how and why you've been able to do so?
And, just for a bonus, please explain what one does when they have accomplished the above. Do they remain without beliefs? Or replace those they destroyed? Or is there a third option my limited intellect cannot comprehend?
I eagerly await your response(s) since I was indeed fortunate enough to meet a person who has done what you have alluded to. I am now paying full attention. The floor is yours.Comment -
You don't understand. What you believe is true to you, because you believe it to be true. It is a loop, that feeds on itself.
If we're all asleep, and trying to wake up, dreaming that one has woken up does not make it so. That is what you're doing. My participation in this thread is limited to pointing out the flaw in your thinking.Comment -
Whether or not I believe something or you believe something has no bearing on whether or not it is true. It either is true or it isn't, regardless of our beliefs. Luckily, the existence of God is true.Comment -
What on earth are you talking about?Originally posted by moneyline
It is your belief, that it's true. Your belief in something being true doesn't make it so. If it's really true, then it's not a belief anymore, but a proven fact.Originally posted by moneylineComment -
Guys, this is why you cannot argue with religous folks. They forsake the basic rules of debate and proof. If they believe something they misconstrue said belief as fact. Their inability to distinguish between belief and reality hinders their ability to logically engage in debate.Comment -
So Buzzy, what you're saying is this: Just because I believe your recipes to be amazingly delicious, in reality they might all actually taste like sh¡t on a shingle. Man, if that's true, then take me now God because life just ain't worth living. Well, god in a relative sense.Comment -
Originally posted by Willie Bee
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This is the loop that most people don't get:
What you believe is true to you, because you believe it to be true.
The annoying thing is when people believe they have found THE belief and insist on convincing others of it. Moneyline talks about 'love'. When I'm deeply in love the last thing I'm going to do is shout it from the rooftops. The way he talks about religion reminds me of Tom Cruise jumping up and down on Oprah's couch to show us how much he loved his woman.
There are only two world religions that take the approach they are the chosen ones, and everybody else is either lost, damned, or infidels: Christianity and Islam. Nothing could be more arrogant, and yet they embrace a concept as humility? Going back to the Crusades, they have tried to take each other's head off in the name of God. Fortunately, the remaining religions, that I'm aware of, practice tolerance.Comment
