If you're not SBR Pro, You shouldn't get any fukkin points!!!

[Night-Tripper]

Ofcourse there isn't any "new" Pros Pavyfukk..

That is the Point...

You're either a gambler or you are a freeloader, one or the other..

And stop with the "I use a local" bullshit..

The only legitamite reason to not be Pro is that you're trying to hide it from your wife, in which case makes you a pussy..

Non-Pros have no leg to stand on and should see their points reduced to 2 a day..

You're either a gambler or you are a freeloader, one or the other..

Lemme get this straight... in your myopic world, I'm not a gambler because (even though I do have a sizable amount of money at an online sports book) I don't have an account with any of the online sports books that SBR recognizes, correct?

The only legitamite reason to not be Pro is that you're trying to hide it from your wife, in which case makes you a pussy..

Really?

legitamite

Hooked on phonics, right? I've got to hand it to you... you've proved beyond a reasonable doubt that you are an imbecile.

Non-Pros have no leg to stand on and should see their points reduced to 2 a day..

Every village has an idiot (and so does this forum). Now, if you're the big shot gambler that you claim to be, why aren't you posting all of your plays in your spreadsheet? (Until you take care of that minor omission, why don't you shut the fukk up?)

[Grandmaster B]

That is funny. They were all willing to give their account numbers to join free contests. I saw a lot of these names in every free contest SBR had. They never complained about having to give their account number. But now they all have millions in these books but they arent going to give SBR their precious account number just to get some extra points, cheaper prices in the store, and be able to join pro only contests. Oh no, those perks mean nothing to these non pros. After all, they are all millionaires who beat the books arses every weekend, they dont need the silly sbr perks.

And we are the arrogant ones ??? LOL

I thought you have to give SBR your acct number AND your full government name?

[iifold]

king...are you going to the SBR bash next summer?

What makes you think I wasn't at the one that just passed?

[Grandmaster B]

oh and for the ones who will say "your name is needed" thats not entirely true because when the points system first started I bought one freeplay (only thing ive ever bought from the SBR store) from bookmaker and they had no problem crediting my acct just using the acct number

then again we have dolts running around sending scans of their DL offshore and wondering why they're getting loads of junk mail from books they've never signed up with nor ever played at

but please by all means send them a scan of your SSI card because someone on the internet told you it was ok and part of procedure

just dont be surprised if you see your name and address posted on a forum someday like the lady who went public (because she was getting robbed) about the betjm horse race dispute 2 years back

[Grandmaster B]

What makes you think I wasn't at the one that just passed?

ur a clown and just because you went to check into cash to borrow $200 to make a deposit so you could have "pro" next to your name...that means nothing

now scurry along and bet your $5 ML NFL bets on -500

[Grandmaster B]

I will say poster 'Bread' had some interesting viewpoints in regards to SBR being tied into his sportsbook accts FOR LIFE

and when he asked the sportsbooks in question to remove the % SBR was taking from his losses he was told "once SBR is hooked into your acct they are hooked in for life"

food for thought

[eidolon]

What makes you think I wasn't at the one that just passed?

So you were or you weren't at the last one?

[Kav]

lol @ the big uproar points have caused.

[teaserpleaser]

Lol at bread asking to have sbr not get a cut. fukkin Bread

[SBR_John]

lol @ the big uproar points have caused.

It's kind of fun actually. A lot of those who said early on they would never go Pro quietly changed their mind and are sitting in the poker rooms every evening. If a guy has $200 and plans on visiting this site its a no brainer or as they say around here +EVEN. Trivia for the Pros starts next month, you can win 200 points a week if you can answer questions like what do they call the Superbowl trophy?... i came up with that one .

[dvsbmx]

Points, points, points. My question is; what makes a someone with $200 in an online/offshore sports book a better asset to SBR than someone who, for whatever reason, doesn't. Theres always going to be people taking advantage of "the system" but going after people who don't have pro status is kind of ridiculous.

"Who give a shit, who gives a fvck."
-Steve Langford

[SBR_John]

No one is better or worse because they are a Pro. Its kind of one of those you get what you pay for deals. We offer those who support the sponsors a lot more. We still appreciate those that do not do business with the sponsors. If you turn it around and lets say you were a player and supporter of the sponsors and the site, why should all the rewards be much less to you because they are given to those who do not support the site?? You would think you deserve the lion share of the loyalty rewards and we do too.

[shari91]

Get me a book that doesn't require my dragging my son an hour+ across the city just to deposit and I'll be there!! Until that happens, I'll just take the slams that I don't have $200, I only bet with points since I'm a chick (although Itwat could check my history to see how much I actually bet with points), and I shouldn't be on this site at all.

Only a few of you may remember but before the Pro program was even started I was battling in a thread alone saying that I would probably assign a little more value to those who have Pro status because they were showing a dedication to the forum. Everyone slammed me. Now though, after looking at the calibre of Pro members, I admit I was wrong. Especially after hearing how some of them claimed this elite status. Again, if someone can take my cash and get it into a book after JJ fukked me over several ways then more power to you. Until then, I'll just be a non Pro who obviously doesn't bet cash, doesn't know shit about gambling or sports and is just here to freeload points.

[will2survive]

what did JJ do to you?He seems like a nice guy...hard to believe that he would "fuk" anyone over.He's definitelty a straight shooter on this site..

[MBENZ]

Get me a book that doesn't require my dragging my son an hour+ across the city just to deposit and I'll be there!! Until that happens, I'll just take the slams that I don't have $200, I only bet with points since I'm a chick (although Itwat could check my history to see how much I actually bet with points), and I shouldn't be on this site at all.

Only a few of you may remember but before the Pro program was even started I was battling in a thread alone saying that I would probably assign a little more value to those who have Pro status because they were showing a dedication to the forum. Everyone slammed me. Now though, after looking at the calibre of Pro members, I admit I was wrong. Especially after hearing how some of them claimed this elite status. Again, if someone can take my cash and get it into a book after JJ fukked me over several ways then more power to you. Until then, I'll just be a non Pro who obviously doesn't bet cash, doesn't know shit about gambling or sports and is just here to freeload points.

I only have one question...what the hell is Itwat?

[Patrick McIrish]

My ex said she was going to start up her own thing, maybe Itwat is her doing.

[sportsfanatic]

hope you win the sbr poker tourney and become pro, shari.

[shari91]

what did JJ do to you?He seems like a nice guy...hard to believe that he would "fuk" anyone over.He's definitelty a straight shooter on this site..

He never fukked me over purposely. He fukked me over by being over zealous with my personal details and not stopping to think before performing a few actions using my name with foreign books. As a result, I'm blocked out of Moneybookers, Paypal thinks I'm a terrorist and I've given up opening a legit account with certain Euro and Asian books.

I only have one question...what the hell is Itwat?

The being who assumes I bet in the kitchen with points and need a tv so I can watch my bets come through. Love this forum!!!

[MBENZ]

My ex said she was going to start up her own thing, maybe Itwat is her doing.

I hope not,my first,second,and existing twat have a patent.

[u21c3f6]

Here is a copy of a post I made previously:

“First, the venues I wager at (and funded well before the change in banking procedures for US banks) are not one of the sponsors of this forum. Second, (and I hope I am not violating the vow of silence) I have opened an account with one of the sponsored books but have yet been able to fund it. The book suggested one way which I tried and it failed. They suggested I try again and it failed again. They suggested I call them (they did not want to reply in an email) so they can tell me where and what kind of card to purchase that could be used to fund my account. I go where they told me and lo and behold, they don't sell those cards anymore! They then suggest an online service which I sign up for and when I go to fund the account, there is no option to use this service. When I ask where the link is, I get this email reply: "Our instant deposit processor is having an update and is temporary unavailable, unfortunately we don't have a time frame for it to be back." I may just have to give up my hopes of becoming a "pro" and stay a novice!”


I tried to “Become a Pro” because I feel it is the right thing to do in support of this forum. However, after the problems I encountered trying to fund my new account with the methods suggested by the book, I am just not that interested anymore. I personally have no problem with a decision to eliminate points for non-Pros.

Joe.

[will2survive]

Sorry Shari: Like you said,his intentions weren't bad but now you're suffering because of it.If it's any consolation,playing in the US,there's obstacles all over the place.

[SBR_John]

Shari, what about Pinnacle??

[Bill Dozer]

Here is a copy of a post I made previously:

“First, the venues I wager at (and funded well before the change in banking procedures for US banks) are not one of the sponsors of this forum. Second, (and I hope I am not violating the vow of silence) I have opened an account with one of the sponsored books but have yet been able to fund it. The book suggested one way which I tried and it failed. They suggested I try again and it failed again. They suggested I call them (they did not want to reply in an email) so they can tell me where and what kind of card to purchase that could be used to fund my account. I go where they told me and lo and behold, they don't sell those cards anymore! They then suggest an online service which I sign up for and when I go to fund the account, there is no option to use this service. When I ask where the link is, I get this email reply: "Our instant deposit processor is having an update and is temporary unavailable, unfortunately we don't have a time frame for it to be back." I may just have to give up my hopes of becoming a "pro" and stay a novice!”


I tried to “Become a Pro” because I feel it is the right thing to do in support of this forum. However, after the problems I encountered trying to fund my new account with the methods suggested by the book, I am just not that interested anymore. I personally have no problem with a decision to eliminate points for non-Pros.

Joe.

u21,

Unfortunately not all sportsbook accounting processes are created equal. It should be a couple minute process at a 5Dimes.

[shari91]

Shari, what about Pinnacle??

This is the problem - it'll cost me $75 in fees according to Pinny's phone call (I just edited this because I thought it was live chat and then actually looked at my little notes) and dragging my son across the city just to deposit $200 (which will actually equate to $125) in a book that doesn't even offer proper lines on what I turn over the majority of my money on (tennis). This is what I mean John - I realise this site is geared towards Americans who need to bet offshore because of the lack of options available to them but unless a Rican local is willing to walk my $200 into a book, I've run out of viable options as far as turning Pro. However, I still encourage all the guys who talk to me about this privately to do so themselves. I'm just now in a position where because of JJ and circumstance, it has just become ridiculous. I'll still try and if I remember I'll try to win the status via the poker contest. Regardless, I'm confident it'll work out for me somehow even if I have to take some flack and wait some time until it does.

[pavyracer]

He never fukked me over purposely. He fukked me over by being over zealous with my personal details and not stopping to think before performing a few actions using my name with foreign books. As a result, I'm blocked out of Moneybookers, Paypal thinks I'm a terrorist and I've given up opening a legit account with certain Euro and Asian books.



The being who assumes I bet in the kitchen with points and need a tv so I can watch my bets come through. Love this forum!!!

So let me get this straight. You meet a guy in a gambling forum 10,000 miles away. Somehow you become friends which is a great thing. Then you started chatting with him. And then you give him all your personal information giving him access to moneybookers and paypal and he screws you up?

I would not give my paypal information not even to my father or brothers let alone a stranger I met online at a gambling forum of all places.

[keyboarding]

So let me get this straight. You meet a guy in a gambling forum 10,000 miles away. Somehow you become friends which is a great thing. Then you started chatting with him. And then you give him all your personal information giving him access to moneybookers and paypal and he screws you up?

I would not give my paypal information not even to my father or brothers let alone a stranger I met online at a gambling forum of all places.

Yeah, what the fukk kind of story is this?

[iifold]

Shari is a fraud, JJ would probably even decline bangin this chick...

[SBR_John]

This is the problem - it'll cost me $75 in fees according to Pinny's phone call (I just edited this because I thought it was live chat and then actually looked at my little notes) and dragging Seth across the city just to deposit $200 (which will actually equate to $125) in a book that doesn't even offer proper lines on what I turn over the majority of my money on (tennis). This is what I mean John - I realise this site is geared towards Americans who need to bet offshore because of the lack of options available to them but unless a Rican local is willing to walk my $200 into a book, I've run out of viable options as far as turning Pro. However, I still encourage all the guys who talk to me about this privately to do so themselves. I'm just now in a position where because of JJ and circumstance, it has just become ridiculous. I'll still try and if I remember I'll try to win the status via the poker contest. Regardless, I'm confident it'll work out for me somehow even if I have to take some flack and wait some time until it does.

Sorry to see its so expensive. We are developing content and sponsors from Australia, UK and Euro which will add sponsors from that region. But it will not be a solution for a few months.

[obamaismyuncle]

No one is better or worse because they are a Pro. Its kind of one of those you get what you pay for deals. We offer those who support the sponsors a lot more. We still appreciate those that do not do business with the sponsors. If you turn it around and lets say you were a player and supporter of the sponsors and the site, why should all the rewards be much less to you because they are given to those who do not support the site?? You would think you deserve the lion share of the loyalty rewards and we do too.

This is the part I don't understand. I provide SBR with one of my account numbers, SBR verifys and then I become "Pro"..but what do "Pros" get? Is it just the extra 6 points a day? That's all I can see, so why should people provide their acct numbers to you for an extra 36 cents a day?

[keyboarding]

That's all I can see, so why should people provide their acct numbers to you for an extra 36 cents a day?

Maybe that is enough incentive for most people. If it is not for you then that is okay, too.

[sickler]

Get me a book that doesn't require my dragging my son an hour+ across the city just to deposit and I'll be there!! Until that happens, I'll just take the slams that I don't have $200, I only bet with points since I'm a chick (although Itwat could check my history to see how much I actually bet with points), and I shouldn't be on this site at all.

Only a few of you may remember but before the Pro program was even started I was battling in a thread alone saying that I would probably assign a little more value to those who have Pro status because they were showing a dedication to the forum. Everyone slammed me. Now though, after looking at the calibre of Pro members, I admit I was wrong. Especially after hearing how some of them claimed this elite status. Again, if someone can take my cash and get it into a book after JJ fukked me over several ways then more power to you. Until then, I'll just be a non Pro who obviously doesn't bet cash, doesn't know shit about gambling or sports and is just here to freeload points.

Shari, you do enough here to support the forum without feeling the need to join the "dedicated" PRO members. 85% of them are doing it because they want the extra points and/or don't want to be left out of the contests requiring Pro status. The other 15% are turning "Pro" because they feel somewhat inferior without it. As I mentioned when this began, it's a masterful brainwashing job having the status appear in out avatar space. Well done, John and Bill.

Shari, if you're having difficulties funding one of the sponsored books and becoming a "Pro" is something you want, SBR should just give it to you. That massive tennis thread of yours chalk full of insights brought much to the forum. Not to mention your other contributions. (I'm not kissing butt because I want you to call me ,,,)

shari21, call me

[shari91]

So let me get this straight. You meet a guy in a gambling forum 10,000 miles away. Somehow you become friends which is a great thing. Then you started chatting with him. And then you give him all your personal information giving him access to moneybookers and paypal and he screws you up?

I would not give my paypal information not even to my father or brothers let alone a stranger I met online at a gambling forum of all places.

Yeah, what the fukk kind of story is this?

I honestly didn't think anything screwed up would happen. I was doing him a favour - he wanted to access books he couldn't from the States and since I had no intention of ever getting involved with some of those books, it didn't seem like a big deal. It only fell apart when he logged into those accounts too soon after me without changing his IP to an Aussie one and kept trying to get deposit money to a book via PayPal despite the book not even accepting that as a payment method. duh It's become a pain in the ass because of this whole Pro thing now but in actuality I rarely used PayPal and never used Moneybookers before that so I really wasn't risking much in order to help someone out.

Shari is a fraud, JJ would probably even decline bangin this chick...

I'm a lot of things you little toolbox, but being a fraud is not one of them. You however...

[obamaismyuncle]

Shari, you do enough here to support the forum without feeling the need to join the "dedicated" PRO members. 85% of them are doing it because they want the extra points and/or don't want to be left out of the contests requiring Pro status. The other 15% are turning "Pro" because they feel somewhat inferior without it. As I mentioned when this began, it's a masterful brainwashing job having the status appear in out avatar space. Well done, John and Bill.

Shari, if you're having difficulties funding one of the sponsored books and becoming a "Pro" is something you want, SBR should just give it to you. That massive tennis thread of yours chalk full of insights brought much to the forum. Not to mention your other contributions. (I'm not kissing butt because I want you to call me ,,,)

shari21, call me

[pavyracer]

Shari you should not engage in fraudulent activities with Aussie books to help an addict gambler from the States. Do you honestly think jjfraud was ever going to win anything from the Aussie books and request a payout?

[shari91]

Shari you should not engage in fraudulent activities with Aussie books to help an addict gambler from the States. Do you honestly think jjfraud was ever going to win anything from the Aussie books and request a payout?

Do you think I'd ever let him use my details for an Aussie book? No way. I live here at the moment - I wasn't willing to risk having my name screwed up here.

At the end of the day it's really not a big deal. The books themselves are ok and at least I have accounts sent up with them if I ever decide to use them. It's just for this Pro thing that things have become screwy.