Pros: Who do you use?

[Maverick22]

So what does one receive for succeeding in this challenge? A trophy? some type of certificate? will they have bragging rights over in the players talk forum? Will they get a movie deal like Brandon Lang (except Lang never actually succeeded as a capper)

obviously the price one would expect to receive for this service would likely not be worth the effort alone.

I would settle for a few thousand $$$ and a few cartons of menthol cigarettes. Guess I'm not sharp enough for this guy

[Flying Dutchman]

I would settle for a few thousand $$$ and a few cartons of menthol cigarettes. Guess I'm not sharp enough for this guy

Since we are bidding I go for Monkey's Bellagio hos...

[sharpcat]

I would settle for a few thousand $$$ and a few cartons of menthol cigarettes. Guess I'm not sharp enough for this guy

Yeah, I am guessing he is thinking along the lines of $300 where as I am thinking $6,000 up front for 3 months just for a text service to let him know when and what to bet with no guarantee that the number will still be there by the time he gets the bet in, with ZERO insight on how the play was derived.

Problem is that I could give 2 shits what people on a chat forum think I do this because I enjoy it, so outside of heavy compensation financially I have nothing to gain from this experiment and no reason to waste my valuable time texting my plays to some degenerate gambler.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I won't even bother responding anymore, I see my point is being proven with every post.

You know the deal, you know how to find me whoever you might be.

Take Care.

egr99

You have no point. The fact is that your "challenge" is entirely ridiculous. Nobody who is profitably modeling is going to share their plays with you. They just aren't. If you can't figure out why, then you're probably retarded.

[Maverick22]

Since we are bidding I go for Monkey's Bellagio hos...

Touché my freind... The cigarettes are for the moments after the Bellagio hoes have served their purpose...

[egr99]

Yeah, I am guessing he is thinking along the lines of $300 where as I am thinking $6,000 up front for 3 months just for a text service to let him know when and what to bet with no guarantee that the number will still be there by the time he gets the bet in, with ZERO insight on how the play was derived.

Problem is that I could give 2 shits what people on a chat forum think I do this because I enjoy it, so outside of heavy compensation financially I have nothing to gain from this experiment and no reason to waste my valuable time texting my plays to some degenerate gambler.

Sharpcat,

300$? LOL...

$6000 is heavy compensation for you? How about I make you an offer. I will give you $6000 up front, grade with the line you send the play out and if you are profitable in 3months I will send you an additional $4000 bonus to round it off to $10000 for 3-months.

I could not care less how you derive the plays thats up to you.

I am far from a degenerate gambler, and willing to put my money where my mouth is. If you screw me and take the $6000 and are never to be heard of again, well shame on me. I am willing to send a wire transfer ASAP.

I have 1 request, and only 1. Everyday, I will post in a ongoing thread here a record of W/L, Units and ROI% without posting any picks. Just a daily recap.

Is this fair?

egr99

[egr99]

You have no point. The fact is that your "challenge" is entirely ridiculous. Nobody who is profitably modeling is going to share their plays with you. They just aren't. If you can't figure out why, then you're probably retarded.

Same offer above stands for you MonkeyFocker.

egr99

[djiddish98]

Are you saying you'll pay $6,000 for anyone's picks over 3 months? And if those picks are profitable over 3 months, then you'll reward an additional $4,000?

So the only benefit to you is you get to show how mediocre said player is over 3 months?

Or would I have to pay up $6,000 if I under perform over a 3 month sample?

[MonkeyF0cker]

Sharpcat,

300$? LOL...

$6000 is heavy compensation for you? How about I make you an offer. I will give you $6000 up front, grade with the line you send the play out and if you are profitable in 3months I will send you an additional $4000 bonus to round it off to $10000 for 3-months.

I could not care less how you derive the plays thats up to you.

I am far from a degenerate gambler, and willing to put my money where my mouth is. If you screw me and take the $6000 and are never to be heard of again, well shame on me. I am willing to send a wire transfer ASAP.

I have 1 request, and only 1. Everyday, I will post in a ongoing thread here a record of W/L, Units and ROI% without posting any picks. Just a daily recap.

Is this fair?

egr99

Where do the lines come from?

[egr99]

Where do the lines come from?

Your choice, as long as its FAIR.

What will you be playing? MLB/WNBA/AFL/CFL etc... ?

You tell me.

egr99

[egr99]

Are you saying you'll pay $6,000 for anyone's picks over 3 months? And if those picks are profitable over 3 months, then you'll reward an additional $4,000?

So the only benefit to you is you get to show how mediocre said player is over 3 months?

Or would I have to pay up $6,000 if I under perform over a 3 month sample?

No, right now its open to monkeyfocker/sharpcat because they are talking a big game.

Proove me wrong, I am willing to dish out 6k to each.

Let's go, how hard is it?

egr99

[MonkeyF0cker]

Your choice, as long as its FAIR.

What will you be playing? MLB/WNBA/AFL/CFL etc... ?

You tell me.

egr99

Ok. I'm in. I'll be playing MLB and WNBA.

[egr99]

Ok. I'm in. I'll be playing MLB and WNBA.

Sounds good,

A couple more details to agree on...

What will you be playing?

WNBA SIDES/TOTALS @ -110?
MLB ? Need some clarifications?

Also unit structure? I don't want to see no bullshit 25-unit plays when you are down 24-units. Realistic plays.

You agree to the public daily recap W/L, UNITS, ROI%?

egr99

[Flying Dutchman]

No, right now its open to monkeyfocker/sharpcat because they are talking a big game.

Proove me wrong, I am willing to dish out 6k to each.

Let's go, how hard is it?

egr99

Geeze, I need to talk more shit then...

...this really is turning into a joke.

Hey Mavrick! We split the cigs and the hos and go in together?

[MonkeyF0cker]

Sounds good,

A couple more details to agree on...

What will you be playing?

WNBA SIDES/TOTALS @ -110?
MLB ? Need some clarifications?

Also unit structure? I don't want to see no bullshit 25-unit plays when you are down 24-units. Realistic plays.

You agree to the public daily recap W/L, UNITS, ROI%?

egr99

Units depend on the edge, according to Kelly staking. The side and total numbers would depend on what that particular book is hanging. Yeah. The results can be posted. Fine with me.

[egr99]

Units depend on the edge, according to Kelly staking. The side and total numbers would depend on what that particular book is hanging. Yeah. The results can be posted. Fine with me.

So, you will send PLAY/UNIT/LINE correct? We base this off a starting bankroll of 100,000 for mathematical purposes?

What means of communication do you prefer?

How many plays a day do you anticipate on average?

Also, I will PM you for payment details.

egr99

[MonkeyF0cker]

So, you will send PLAY/UNIT/LINE correct? We base this off a starting bankroll of 100,000 for mathematical purposes?

What means of communication do you prefer?

How many plays a day do you anticipate on average?

Also, I will PM you for payment details.

egr99

Yeah. Play/Wager/Line. Text message would work. Plays per day depend on how many games and edges I find. I'd say probably somewhere between 10-15 usually.

[lyon804]

So, you will send PLAY/UNIT/LINE correct? We base this off a starting bankroll of 100,000 for mathematical purposes?

What means of communication do you prefer?

How many plays a day do you anticipate on average?

Also, I will PM you for payment details.

egr99

EGR99, if it's any consolation I think you got the best. MonkeyFocker has the goods. I have read many of his post and the guy is truly a pro's pro.

This is a classic. I hope you do keep the forum updated with a daily recap of W/L units earned and ROI% if you 2 truly go through with it.


Anything is possible in the short term but this is a math guy with models and the numbers will work over the long haul. Just don't get discouraged if it's not 70% winners. That is not attainable in any market over the long run. This will be profitable for you over large numbers. Also don't get discouraged if the beginning numbers are not good. This is strictly a numbers game and the numbers will work over large quantities for him.


Best of Luck!

[xyz]

Post lines on sharpcat and monkeyfocker actually getting the $6k wire to start this contest:

yes +200
no -99999999

[egr99]

Post lines on sharpcat and monkeyfocker actually getting the $6k wire to start this contest:

yes +200
no -99999999

Put me down 3k @ +200... THX

egr99

[u21c3f6]

Put me down 3k @ +200... THX

egr99

See, there is always a way to find an edge! (Why stop at $3K?)

Joe.

[Maverick22]

Geeze, I need to talk more shit then...

...this really is turning into a joke.

Hey Mavrick! We split the cigs and the hos and go in together?

No problem man... Hey, we can even share the hos Aint no fun if the homies can't have none.

Post lines on sharpcat and monkeyfocker actually getting the $6k wire to start this contest:

yes +200
no -99999999

I'll lay $20 on yes Not because I believe it will happen but the slim chance it does, I'll be able to take some vacation time from Outback Steakhouse...

mmmmmhhhhhmm.....I want a blooming onion right about now

[Extra Innings]

Let's get it on Boys!

[sharpcat]

Sharpcat,

300$? LOL...

$6000 is heavy compensation for you? How about I make you an offer. I will give you $6000 up front, grade with the line you send the play out and if you are profitable in 3months I will send you an additional $4000 bonus to round it off to $10000 for 3-months.

I could not care less how you derive the plays thats up to you.

I am far from a degenerate gambler, and willing to put my money where my mouth is. If you screw me and take the $6000 and are never to be heard of again, well shame on me. I am willing to send a wire transfer ASAP.

I have 1 request, and only 1. Everyday, I will post in a ongoing thread here a record of W/L, Units and ROI% without posting any picks. Just a daily recap.

Is this fair?

egr99

This sounds a little sketchy, there has to be some type of catch 22 here.

PM me the details and maybe we can work something out.

[Joe Dogs]

If this comes off,it will be very intersting to say the least.

[big0mar]

Your first lesson should be learning that nobody gives a shit about you. Your second lesson should be learning that everyone wants to make infinite amounts of cash. Combine those two lessons and go teach yourself.

[reno cool]

No problem man... Hey, we can even share the hos Aint no fun if the homies can't have none.







I'll lay $20 on yes Not because I believe it will happen but the slim chance it does, I'll be able to take some vacation time from Outback Steakhouse...

mmmmmhhhhhmm.....I want a blooming onion right about now

I don't think you're reading the line right. Unless you intend on taking a vacation with $40.

[Maverick22]

Hahah, wasn't paying attention...

Probably why I wash dishes, and not make oodles of money handicapping sports

[Justin7]

egr,

I can get you at least 500 plays a year with a 4% EV. For 100k, I'll walk you through it. If your unit size is less than 5k, it's a sucker bet. If you can't get down 5k on some of the smaller market stuff, it's a sucker bet. If I charged you less than 100k to be available 24/7 and walk you through everything you want to know, I made a sucker bet.

[Wrecktangle]

Kind of amazing what happens when you don't live on SBR 24/7. Guess I missed out.

Back to modeling.

[Flying Dutchman]

...hummm. Probably the biggest puffed up blowhard at SBR shit-talks his way into an opportunity like this.

...I guess what they say about whales and their money is true...

Contrats to Monkey on reeling in the mark!

[MonkeyF0cker]

Dutchman,

When you contribute ANYTHING positive to this forum, let us all know please. We're all dying to hear just one item of intelligence from you.

Thank you.

[Flying Dutchman]

Dutchman,

When you contribute ANYTHING positive to this forum, let us all know please. We're all dying to hear just one item of intelligence from you.

Thank you.

Listen dickwad. You seem to think showing off your supposed intelligence and capability at modeling has folks in awe of you. You are damned by the modeling shit you post. The average punter reads your 50-cent words and thinks you know the biz when in reality you are a two-bit modeler and the guys who know their shit laugh at you.

I don't post anything because I'm not going to let any cats outta bags. You post because you need to have your massive ego fed.

Congrats though! You conned egr99 to burn through $6K just to show that you are a marginal originator at best. With this shit, maybe you can grift yourself into a movie like Brock.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Listen dickwad. You seem to think showing off your supposed intelligence and capability at modeling has folks in awe of you. You are damned by the modeling shit you post. The average punter reads your 50-cent words and thinks you know the biz when in reality you are a two-bit modeler and the guys who know their shit laugh at you.

I don't post anything because I'm not going to let any cats outta bags. You post because you need to have your massive ego fed.

Congrats though! You conned egr99 to burn through $6K just to show that you are a marginal originator at best. With this shit, maybe you can grift yourself into a movie like Brock.

Yeah. A guy who doesn't even know where to get 2nd half NBA line histories "knows his shit." You have no cats to let out of the bag. You're a funny guy, Dutchman. Stupid but funny nonetheless.

[egr99]

Far from a mark, I did overeact, but a deal is a deal and I will go through with it. $6k isnt the end of the world.

As far as my original intentions, they were very simple. I was looking to find a good source of plays and work out an arrangement that would be mutually beneficial. Anyway, we will see what happens.

As far as Justin7, very nice of you... Maybe I will just purchase your book for $50 bucks or whatever it is and save $99950 LOL

I guess according to your math, your books publishing is kind of a suckers bet, doubt you will make $100k let alone anything over $10k on its publishing, but good luck. Im not interested in running my own models anyway, I have enough on my plate as it is. I do what I do and I am damn good at it.

egr99