PavyRacers World Cup Hedge Fund

pavyracer · 06-11-10, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by wal66

closed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by lakerboy

Is it too late to get in on this?

Yes according to the fund manager. He is already doing a ton of work every day pro bono.

Smogs · 06-13-10, 07:48 PM

Wal - don't worry about the 10 points, the plays out for tomorrow are going to hit big time

losturmarbles · 06-13-10, 08:00 PM

wal, does the sbr point book pay out 1 leg on a 2 team parlay where 1 leg wins, 1 leg pushes?

PARLAY - ARGENTINA -250, ENGLAND -200. you risked 250, did it cancel or win 100?

stealthyburrito · 06-13-10, 08:02 PM

it lost.

pavyracer · 06-13-10, 08:07 PM

England -200 was 3 way ML. Can't push that. Only lines that push are pk.

Give credit to Wal guys. He never bet soccer in his life before. He is a little bit overwhelmed with the plays I give him. Some are ML 3 way, some are pk and some are -1. He is trying to place all the bets at once as risk but the way the book accepts the bets is screwed up. It randomly bets one of the 4 plays in to risk and the other ones in to win. It's not set up properly.

wal66 · 06-13-10, 08:10 PM

I've never done ML parlays in soccer before but undoubtedly a tie on a ML parlay is a loss cause that is how it was graded. I've only ever done them in football (not futbol) and never had one end in a tie so it was news to me as well.

losturmarbles · 06-13-10, 08:14 PM

oops, wasn't paying attention. yeah i was thinking those were pk prices for some reason.

BeeMore · 06-13-10, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

England -200 was 3 way ML. Can't push that. Only lines that push are pk.

Give credit to Wal guys. He never bet soccer in his life before. He is a little bit overwhelmed with the plays I give him. Some are ML 3 way, some are pk and some are -1. He is trying to place all the bets at once as risk but the way the book accepts the bets is screwed up. It randomly bets one of the 4 plays in to risk and the other ones in to win. It's not set up properly.

You can't make this shit up

Yet these idiots invested thousands in this bubblegum operation.

pavyracer · 06-13-10, 08:16 PM

We are also very limited in betting options at the points book. They don't offer +0.5 lines so sometimes I pass or I'm forced to make a play on pk lines at bad odds. This is why I try to do two team ML parlays to limit risk.

The players on the email list should be making profit because I give them additional plays who are hitting at +150 or better odds. I don't like the lines offered at the points book but it's either this or nothing. No soccer bettor should play at Bookmaker. There are better options at 5Dimes, BetPhoenix and Pinnacle.

BeeMore · 06-13-10, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

We are also very limited in betting options at the points book. They don't offer +0.5 lines so sometimes I pass or I'm forced to make a play on pk lines at bad odds. This is why I try to do two team ML parlays to limit risk.

The players on the email list should be making profit because I give them additional plays who are hitting at +150 or better odds. I don't like the lines offered at the points book but it's either this or nothing. No soccer bettor should play at Bookmaker. There are better options at 5Dimes, BetPhoenix and Pinnacle.

I told you this last week!

Here come the excuses, bottom line you burried your investors. Your plays aren't worth a shit.

pavyracer · 06-13-10, 08:26 PM

Here are the plays on the first three days:

Mexico pk -119
France pk -200
France/Uruguay under 2.5 -150

South Korea pk +100
Greece/Korea under 2 -120
Argentina ML -250 & England ML -200 (2 team parlay)
England/USA over 2.5 +100

USA over +1/2 -123
South Korea under 1/2 +165
Greece under 1/2 +175

Slovenia ML +130
Slovenia pk -160
Serbia ML +120
Serbia pk -170

Algeria under 1/2 +145

blue won
red lost
black pushed

ronjon619 · 06-13-10, 08:39 PM

anybody know the value of the fund? Serbia cost us today.

wal66 · 06-13-10, 08:46 PM

ronjon, Serbia was to be a 500 max play. Due to the fact it was included in a group of plays and got inverted it was a 875 point play.

This will NOT be a problem hence forth. I realized what happens when you group all the plays together and now I am not doing that anymore.

You can group plays and do them all at one time if they are the same type of play like pk's totals or spreads but when you mix in ML plays it automatically make the ML a TO WIN amount while the others remain a RISK amount.

ronjon619 · 06-13-10, 08:48 PM

ok, i was wondering why so much on that game.

ronjon619 · 06-13-10, 08:49 PM

got it. just read your Mon plays email.

Tommy_de1st · 06-14-10, 05:39 AM

Don't worry bout the points, Wal

Cougar Bait · 06-14-10, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by Tommy_de1st

Don't worry bout the points, Wal

Yeah same here, not a big deal.

Fishhead · 06-14-10, 06:00 AM

How does the FUND stand currently.

rm18 · 06-14-10, 07:27 AM

why was pavy betting against Ghana it is too hot outside for them to lose to a white team

Fishhead · 06-14-10, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

How does the FUND stand currently.

wal66 · 06-14-10, 08:14 AM

Fish, the fund as of right now not including the Props and Future shares that are pending is -4.1 shares but as explained in a seperate thread 3.75 of those shares was due to the RISK error I made when placing the wagers.

rm18 · 06-14-10, 08:22 AM

parlays do not eliminate risk

Wal ship it all on Cameroon

Fishhead · 06-14-10, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by wal66

Fish, the fund as of right now not including the Props and Future shares that are pending is -4.1 shares but as explained in a seperate thread 3.75 of those shares was due to the RISK error I made when placing the wagers.

Thanks, (keep those pts)

The mistake could have won just as easily as it lost....

PAVY will be in the plus very soon, in Fred we trust.

SolidDala · 06-14-10, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by BeeMore

I told you this last week!

Here come the excuses, bottom line you burried your investors. Your plays aren't worth a shit.

You are missing the point here of what the investment is..

pavyracer · 06-14-10, 08:52 AM

Yes we were down 4.5% due to a placing bet error but now we should be up 0.25%.

hugh_morris · 06-14-10, 09:00 AM

let it roll wal...your doing a great job..so is pavy....mistakes happen...best of luck to all of us...

Dad · 06-14-10, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Yes we were down 4.5% due to a placing bet error but now we should be up 0.25%.

Cougar Bait · 06-14-10, 07:30 PM

What is the status after today....

I know we had Netherlands and that was a winner

Plus Cameroon but that lost...

Didn't keep track closely enough to wager amounts.

Any way we can update the total amount +/- here after every set of wagers?

wal66 · 06-14-10, 07:38 PM

All information concerning wagers are that of the investors and I will do as they wish. My only concern is in the event it is a bad World Cup for us that Pavs will have to engure untold bashing from previously failed fund managers as well as those who already have an interest in not liking Pavs. I could easily update everyone on a daily basis as I send out that days plays in the PM's.

It's more work but hey, I agreed to do this so might as well do it as completely as it can be done.

ANYMORE SPECIAL REQUEST?

Just joking Coug's. Seriously it would be no trouble at all but unless Pavy wants it out in the open I would rather do it privately in the PM's. Those of us that agreed to this like Pavy and respect his capping skills but he does have more than a couple of haters around here.

vitalogist · 06-14-10, 07:44 PM

Keep it up guys, we're just heating up now....

OverUnder · 06-14-10, 07:46 PM

another prime example that shows it is always wiser to make your own picks, I am pulling for you Pavy and wish you all the best, but if I am losing I would like for it to be my picks and my losses that is how I am with everything including my investments. That being said it is only points so no one should give you a hard time over 2 weeks of SBR points. Best of luck, much more games to prosper on!

ronjon619 · 06-14-10, 07:56 PM

is it too much work to keep the balance of the fund in your PM's?

wal66 · 06-14-10, 08:17 PM

No it's not ronjon, I was kidding with Coug's. Starting tomorrow I will include current fund balance when I send out the next days plays.

pavyracer · 06-14-10, 08:23 PM

We need a good day tomorrow. We keep getting 1-1 days or pushes and we are getting juiced. We need a 3-0 day tomorrow to get back in the green. Even a 2-1 day will do. I stomped my chest and screamed loud before I gave the plays to Wal today. I even hit the send button with my left hand to change our luck. I can feel it that tomorrow will be a big day!

Cougar Bait · 06-14-10, 08:59 PM

It doesn't matter Pavy.

I wanted a reason to watch soccer.

I have it.

I mean, these are points.