The Major talks about The Shrink

[Slim]

Saw it at MW. Ken - MajorWager Forums

Not really sure what to say here. I think that those of you who know me personally, know that I never gave into Ken's bullshit. In fact, I spent a good deal of my time trying convince people that he was a conman of extreme proportions. Nothing has changed . Clearly he conned his wife into suicide, a wonderful mother by all accounts, and fantastic grandmother.
My sorrow is with Jackies family. Ken had none. He had a Mother he leached from.
Tony M and Glue, you have my complete sympathies and if there is anything that I can do for you, please do not hesitate to ask.
With great regret, I having nothing more pleasant to say, so I won't.
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who the **** thinks about killing their dogs when killing their wife. It makes no sense at all. Anyone with dogs will know what i am talking about. no sense at all. Seems to me they had to take the dogs with them so they wacked them as well.

and another thing. how in gods name does Tony M come to the forums praising Ken and his love for EOG while his Mom is dead. Keep in mind Ken is his stepdad. If it was my Mom I can assure you that I would be full of piss and vinegar that my Mom ever got involved with a man like this.

Holy shit. He offed his dogs too.

[THE PROFIT]

wow, unfukinreal

[pat venditto]

Tony M must be praising shrink because he probably gets a ton of life insurance money. Who wouldn't change their mind frame about the whole situation a little bit when 1-2 million falls into your hands? Still It is very disturbing. Seems like material you are more likely to see in a movie.

[thechaoz]

Truth is stranger then fiction.

[Extra Innings]

Could he had said anything else? Perhaps nothing at all?

[Chi_archie]

can families collect life insurance when its suicide?

[thechaoz]

no insurance for suicide

[Extra Innings]

can families collect life insurance when its suicide?

no insurance for suicide

Yes unless stated otherwise in the contract (2 year wait). So you would have to wait to kill yourself two years.

[Extra Innings]

FROM THE INTERNET


Can your beneficiary collect life-insurance benefits after your suicide?

I have done some research on this and it seems most life-insurance companies have a suicide clause, which states that they will NOT pay if you commit suicide within two years of getting your policy. After two years, you are free to contact Dr. Kevorkian. It is always better to check with your insurance company, although I would do that discreetly.

Life insurance is regulated by the various states, not by the federal government. It is deemed to be contrary to public interest to encourage suicide by making insurance proceeds available to those who see no way out of their financial difficulties. So insurance companies usually prohibit claims when suicide is the cause of death... they consider that the contract is void and refund premiums to the owner of the policy (who usually died along with the insured). Insurance companies' actuarial tables, upon which they base their premiums, exclude suicides, so to expect companies to pay up for suicide prevents them from pricing policies correctly, and allows the public to avoid paying higher prices because of such selfish acts. State insurance law limits the period of this exclusion, so that if a person was sufficiently rational when they took out the policy, they are not penalized if later on they become despondent. Usually, this suicide exclusion allows insurance companies to void contracts if suicide occurs within two years of the policy date. It's considered that this will sufficiently discourage someone from initiating a policy with the intent to later commit suicide. The rare person who can maintain their determination to die can in fact deliver money upon their death to their beneficiaries.

Life insurance isn't designed to cover the taking of one's own life. Insurance policies will not pay if the insured commits suicide within the first two years after the policy issue date. After two years, the proceeds will be paid for suicide. The reason for this is that most people who wish to commit suicide will not wait two years to do so.


Most private insurance policies have a 2-year suicide exclusion period. After that, the policy must pay the benefit regardless of manner of death.
The exception to the 2-year suicide clause is that some employer-provided group life policies do not contain such a clause. The rationale is simple: Employees are provided several "free" benefits as a way of retaining quality people and most employees who would consider suicide would not bother with going out and consider purchasing a life insurance policy, knowing full well that there would be no death benefit within the first two years of having the policy.

[Shortstop]

can families collect life insurance when its suicide?

Yes, the beneficiary will collect if the policy has been in force for at least two years.

[Shortstop]

no insurance for suicide

Not true.

[Extra Innings]

I don't fukk around Shorty when I post

[btraband]

odd topic

[Shortstop]

I don't fukk around Shorty when I post

[Shortstop]

If both policy owners of a double suicide have each other as their primary beneficiary, the secondary benificiary, if applicable, of both policies receives the entire payout of both policies.

Where it gets confusing, is determining who died first, and this is what it is all is based on...

[jjgold]

The Major read him like a fukkin book all those years, his post might be dead on.

The Major might be the toughest guy on any forum to debate

[Dogball]

I did not realize the dogs had disappeared as well. Is that confirmed ? If so, icing on the cake so to speak. No way in hell someone who kills themselves takes there pets with them. Why not the grand kids as well ?
Hard enough to believe he could convince his wife to take her own life, this story has never made sense to me. I didnt want to bring up my thoughts on Tony and how he could be so graceful if his mom was gone due to her marriage relation. Now that its out there, I want to add I doubt very much ken would make a 500k wager. My understanding was he bet way to many games but usually at 5k max, sometimes going above that when he got the go ahead from BW.

[jjgold]

The Major probably said it best here........." Originally Posted by The Major View Post........ Not really sure what to say here. I think that those of you who know me personally, know that I never gave into Ken's bullshit. In fact, I spent a good deal of my time trying convince people that he was a conman of extreme proportions. Nothing has changed . Clearly he conned his wife into suicide, a wonderful mother by all accounts, and fantastic grandmother. My sorrow is with Jackies family. Ken had none. He had a Mother he leached from. Tony M and Glue, you have my complete sympathies and if there is anything that I can do for you, please do not hesitate to ask. With great regret, I having nothing more pleasant to say, so I won't."

[Scorpion]

Here is an example:

07-25-09, 01:57 PM

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[Fishhead]

Good thread


DOGBALL has been spot on with his assessments over the past few days on various forums............doesn't take much to figure out his reasonings.


THE MAJOR, shady character, plain and simple......best to avoid.


What is the current status of WSEX?

Any comments yet from Jay Cohen or Billy Walters on the Shrink "case"?

[JoshW]

JC commented on it at another forum. Was very positive toward Ken.

[jjgold]

Anything Shrink said was usually not true, I caught him numerous times in lies, coverups and scams. He might of been running scams with owners of WSEX.

[BatemanPatrickl]

Hawkins is a scumbag. I will leave it at that.

[jjgold]

Patrick do not let him see this post, he will get you. I know for a fact he use to send out hits for posters that gave him trouble. This guy was madman. I do not know if he is like that anymore though.

[Scorpion]

It seems shrink had great connections but bad money management ruined him

maybe jjgold can make a video on this and what bad money management can do to you and your bankroll!

[Chi_archie]

99.9% of us will never know the truth

[pavyracer]

I like these characters..The Major..The Shrink..The General

What do they fukking think? People care about megalomaniacs with napoleon complex?

[Chi_archie]

what do you race again?

[SBR_John]

The Major and Sting did not like their one time boss. This industry is competitive needless to say.

I always respected how hard Shrink would work. He worked the phones constantly and posted 24/7. I could never do that. I never took some of the things he did personally so I honestly did not dislike him. In fact I enjoyed our decade+ long competition in business. He beat me for about half of our competitive years and I got the better the other half.

Its been a week, I'm still saddened. Such a waste. If a few guys talk bad about him still then that's ok because it comes with the territory and Ken had thick skin. All I feel like saying is that I respected Ken and I sincerely admired his work ethic. It was his creative ideas many years ago that helped me create my own website and for that I am grateful.

Ken ole boy if you're up there in the forum in the sky I just want to say thanks, you had a good run. We had some great times.

[obamaismyuncle]

The Major and Sting did not like their one time boss. This industry is competitive needless to say.

I always respected how hard Shrink would work. He worked the phones constantly and posted 24/7. I could never do that. I never took some of the things he did personally so I honestly did not dislike him. In fact I enjoyed our decade+ long competition in business. He beat me for about half of our competitive years and I got the better the other half.

Its been a week, I'm still saddened. Such a waste. If a few guys talk bad about him still then that's ok because it comes with the territory and Ken had thick skin. All I feel like saying is that I respected Ken and I sincerely admired his work ethic. It was his creative ideas many years ago that helped me create my own website and for that I am grateful.

Ken ole boy if you're up there in the forum in the sky I just want to say thanks, you had a good run. We had some great times.

Great Post

[Fishhead]

Is Ken alive?

Yes -104
No -104

No betting allowed, just setting the correct odds from my viewpoint.............hoping that the YES is the correct side.

If wagering, certainly would not want to lay over -140 on either side, as that would be bad value in my eyes..............hopefully Ken has a smirk on his face as he is reading this post.

[pavyracer]

I sure hope there isn't a forum in the sky and if there is one he better not be talking about sports gambling up there.

[Fishhead]

I sure hope there isn't a forum in the sky and if there is one he better not be talking about sports gambling up there.

[jjgold]

I will never forget when The Major threatened to kill me and fishhead if we did not call him.

It was legendary

[big joe 1212]

I wonder if the forum in the sky lets you roll over your SBR points?