Shrink's Death Has been confirmed through official SOURCES

[xyzky]

what i'm asking is: other than being a pioneer in the sports gaming message boards, what makes or made this gentleman any different than 98% of gamblers who lose long term? maybe this guy just lost BIGGER than everyone else and took his life after the last huge bet because he saw no other way out. i bet (no pun intended) that gamblers commit suicide on a much higher percentage than the avg person

98%

[Grandmaster B]

and also...since you have all the information...what was the official cause of death?

is there a reason why it would be a closed casket Funeral?

[hoopster42]

is it a open casket funeral?...since you have all the information

to my understanding, Jewish funerals are not open casket. not sure though.

[hoopster42]

and also...since you have all the information...what was the official cause of death?

is there a reason why it would be a closed casket Funeral?

also, to one of your above posts, i have seen where he signed his name "Ken" before at the end of a heartfelt post where he was thanking someone or someones and or saying something deep, more deep than sports betting talk

[Grandmaster B]

to my understanding, Jewish funerals are not open casket. not sure though.

right

my final thoughts...if he offed himself and found no other option I cannot and will not judge....you would never hear me say things like "thats cowardly" like ive been reading on various forums that last few days....its something I can relate to as ive experienced someone close to me do it when I was really young...at the time I didnt understand it

as far as a mom leaving her children...now that would depend on the type of mom she was...again from what ive been reading she loved her children...that dosent add up

if he killed his wife....then I have no words for that

[BigdaddyQH]

and also...since you have all the information...what was the official cause of death?

is there a reason why it would be a closed casket Funeral?

Check the coroners report when it is finalized, probably in 6-8 weeks. That is the ONLY time an "official cause of death" is issued. Now if you want to know what the "probable cause of death" was, I suggest you do some research. It has only been posted here 10 times or more.

As far as a close casket funeral is concerned, have you ever seen someone who dies from carbon monoxide poisoning? If you have, you will understand why you would have a closed coffin funeral. Now if someone really wanted to hide something, the bodies would be cremated, eliminating all the evidence. Bodies can be, and often are, exhumed years after they are interned, for forensic examination. If the bodies are cremated, it would lend additional ammo to you and the "he is alive and well in S**ts Creek Iowa" theorist that abound.

[Grandmaster B]

also, to one of your above posts, i have seen where he signed his name "Ken" before at the end of a heartfelt post where he was thanking someone or someones and or saying something deep, more deep than sports betting talk

oh ok I hear ya...I always seen him sign them the shrink

[Grandmaster B]

Check the coroners report when it is finalized, probably in 6-8 weeks. That is the ONLY time an "official cause of death" is issued. Now if you want to know what the "probable cause of death" was, I suggest you do some research. It has only been posted here 10 times or more.

As far as a close casket funeral is concerned, have you ever seen someone who dies from carbon monoxide poisoning? If you have, you will understand why you would have a closed coffin funeral. Now if someone really wanted to hide something, the bodies would be cremated, eliminating all the evidence. Bodies can be, and often are, exhumed years after they are interned, for forensic examination. If the bodies are cremated, it would lend additional ammo to you and the "he is alive and well in S**ts Creek Iowa" theorist that abound.

now see...here is where you can learn something today...dont speak about something unless youve done it or seen it with your own eyes

dont believe anything you read and only half of what you see

2 people close to me killed themselves using a hose into the tailpipe into the car when I was really young

it was a open casket funeral and as I viewed my uncle he looked good while he was in enternal sleep...he had a nice suit on and a 49ers pin above his pocket

Im not a "theorist"...Im a "realist"

you question my integrity as a man talking about my posts or what not but when I speak I speak about things that I have seen or done....and not about things Ive read

try it sometime...

[BigdaddyQH]

now see...here is where you can learn something today...dont speak about something unless youve done it or seen it with your own eyes

dont believe anything you read and only half of what you see

2 people close to me killed themselves using a hose into the tailpipe into the car when I was really young

it was a open casket funeral and as I viewed my uncle he looked good while he was in enternal sleep...he had a nice suit on and a 49ers pin above his pocket

Im not a "theorist"...Im a "realist"

you question my integrity as a man talking about my posts or what not but when I speak I speak about things that I have seen or done....and not about things Ive read

try it sometime...

When you were really young? Then let me ask you this question. If you can remember, and I know it is difficult if you were that young, how blue did their skin look? How white did their skin look? I know it will be difficult for you to remember these details, because your eyes were obviously affixed to his suit and his 49ers pin that was above his pocket. It is not strange or odd that you remember that. Obviously your uncle was a big 49er fan, and that is the way you wanted to remember him.

[Grandmaster B]

When you were really young? Then let me ask you this question. If you can remember, and I know it is difficult if you were that young, how blue did their skin look? How white did their skin look? I know it will be difficult for you to remember these details, because your eyes were obviously affixed to his suit and his 49ers pin that was above his pocket. It is not strange or odd that you remember that. Obviously your uncle was a big 49er fan, and that is the way you wanted to remember him.

he was dead...hes looked better

but it wasent to the point where he couldnt be viewed

[hoopster42]

i saw open casket of a guy who committed suicide by shooting himself, they had to rebuild his face w/some type of clay or putty substance i heard......anyhow, it all just depends on the religion, culture, personal beliefs of the individual and or family as to whether it will be open casket

[BigdaddyQH]

The reason I asked is because if his skin was exposed to carbon monoxide gas for a long period of time say 2 days or longer like these two were exposed before being found, his skin would have been blue. The flesh would have started to show deterioration, if it took that long to find the body. Aparently these two met their end sometime on the evening of the 7th, or the early morning of the 8th. They were not discovered until around 10 pm on the 10th. That is probably over 50 hours after they had died. Depending on all of the circumstances surrounding the place they were found at, including room temps, and a lot of other things, it could have been real ugly. Something that would force a closed casket funeral. Like I said, if they were going to cremate the bodies, that would certainly arouse my suspitions a lot more than just a simple burial. By buring the bodies, the family is saying that they are not afraid of another autopsy being performed in the future, incase other evdence shows up.

[Grandmaster B]

The reason I asked is because if his skin was exposed to carbon monoxide gas for a long period of time say 2 days or longer like these two were exposed before being found, his skin would have been blue. The flesh would have started to show deterioration, if it took that long to find the body. Aparently these two met their end sometime on the evening of the 7th, or the early morning of the 8th. They were not discovered until around 10 pm on the 10th. That is probably over 50 hours after they had died. Depending on all of the circumstances surrounding the place they were found at, including room temps, and a lot of other things, it could have been real ugly. Something that would force a closed casket funeral. Like I said, if they were going to cremate the bodies, that would certainly arouse my suspitions a lot more than just a simple burial. By buring the bodies, the family is saying that they are not afraid of another autopsy being performed in the future, incase other evdence shows up.

the more I think about it its putting a damper on my day

just sad that someone would see no other option if that in fact was the case here

[BigdaddyQH]

We can certainly agree on that. Again, the point to be remembered, as I said in my other thread, is that this guy had the world by the tail, and ended up dead, or as good as dead. He is certainly not the first person to have this happen to, nor will he be the last. Gambling can become just as additive as drinking or durgs or smoking. It does not happen nearly as much, but it can happen, and if this is what led to his demise, then this is a lesson that everone should remember.

[skrtelfan]

That is a crock. I know people who deal with more money in a year than he did in his lifetime. Stop your dreaming.

Actually, you're the one who needs to stop your dreaming. You think $1 million a year in football action is a big deal and that Mirage and Caesars are "the big boys" in Vegas booking. You're completely clueless.

I just love how you guys that know absolutely noting about gaming come on with all of your alleged knowledge. Grandmaster, you know absolutely about the workings of books, casinos, and the law. You have never been involved in anything that comes close to an operation. Stick to your $5.00 wagers and can the rumors that you and others love to spread. Believe what you like, but do not spew nonsense like the above mentioned post in here.

You ever hear the one about the pot and the kettle?

[Doug]

The reason I asked is because if his skin was exposed to carbon monoxide gas for a long period of time say 2 days or longer like these two were exposed before being found, his skin would have been blue. The flesh would have started to show deterioration, if it took that long to find the body. Aparently these two met their end sometime on the evening of the 7th, or the early morning of the 8th. They were not discovered until around 10 pm on the 10th. That is probably over 50 hours after they had died. Depending on all of the circumstances surrounding the place they were found at, including room temps, and a lot of other things, it could have been real ugly. Something that would force a closed casket funeral. Like I said, if they were going to cremate the bodies, that would certainly arouse my suspitions a lot more than just a simple burial. By buring the bodies, the family is saying that they are not afraid of another autopsy being performed in the future, incase other evdence shows up.

I would guess Jews aren't huge on cremation, with Hitler and WW2.

[raydog]

this thread needs to die i suppose. fukking useless now...from the 500k airbet that he supposedly made, to the "very respectable posters" that are backing up the death story...(the very same "very respectable posters" who totally fukked up the cause of death and started the explosion rumor before montana came out with the other one!) seriously, sure i believe those guys when they cant even get the cause of death right. so many bogus things in the story its a joke...gamblers minds think differently than normal people...holes were poked in the story the second it was told...you cant pull this type of shit and expect a bunch of degens to believe it...cmon

[hoopster42]

this thread needs to die i suppose. fukking useless now...from the 500k airbet that he supposedly made, to the "very respectable posters" that are backing up the death story...(the very same "very respectable posters" who totally fukked up the cause of death and started the explosion rumor before montana came out with the other one!) seriously, sure i believe those guys when they cant even get the cause of death right. so many bogus things in the story its a joke...gamblers minds think differently than normal people...holes were poked in the story the second it was told...you cant pull this type of shit and expect a bunch of degens to believe it...cmon

when michael jackson died last june, that day there were rumors flying around that he died at hm, he died in the ambulance, he died in the hospital, he was still alive, he was on life support, etc, etc. the biggest celebrity death in the last 30 yrs and there were all kinds of stories going around and only TMZ got it right at first, and you are freaking out that there were a few different stories going around about The Shrink?

did it ever occur to you that the family might have been embarrassed at first about the suicide and did not know what to say so they said "car accident", "explosion at home", anything that came to mind until they sat down and had a little while to process it and figure out if they felt okay saying it was a suicide? you act as though multiple rumors dont fly when a high profile person dies which could not be further from the truth

[MBENZ]

this thread needs to die i suppose. fukking useless now...from the 500k airbet that he supposedly made, to the "very respectable posters" that are backing up the death story...(the very same "very respectable posters" who totally fukked up the cause of death and started the explosion rumor before montana came out with the other one!) seriously, sure i believe those guys when they cant even get the cause of death right. so many bogus things in the story its a joke...gamblers minds think differently than normal people...holes were poked in the story the second it was told...you cant pull this type of shit and expect a bunch of degens to believe it...cmon

So you think this is BS?Me too.

[hoopster42]

at this point it would be such a huge conspiracy for this death to be fake that to even think he or his wife are actually alive after so many people, the funeral hm, the police log, the coroner, all confirming their death, that is becoming pretty much IDIOTIC to think anything other the fact that they both died last wk

[jjgold]

Hooper you are correct


I could see if this guy was a major factor in a mafia family and was squealing

Guys watch too much tv here

[hoopster42]

Hooper you are correct


I could see if this guy was a major factor in a mafia family and was squealing

Guys watch too much tv here

yup, and these doubters should realize by now that LOTS OF posters were doubting the story but went hunting for facts themselves and found those facts and shared them w/everyone on forums

[donjuan]

Actually, you're the one who needs to stop your dreaming. You think $1 million a year in football action is a big deal and that Mirage and Caesars are "the big boys" in Vegas booking. You're completely clueless.



You ever hear the one about the pot and the kettle?

Lol spot on.

[BigdaddyQH]

Actually, you're the one who needs to stop your dreaming. You think $1 million a year in football action is a big deal and that Mirage and Caesars are "the big boys" in Vegas booking. You're completely clueless.



You ever hear the one about the pot and the kettle?

Uh, when did I say that Caesars or the Mirage are the "big boys" when it comes to sports book action? I did say that they have two of the best sports books out there, but that has nothing to do with the amount of action they take.

I also do not remember saying that a million dollars a year was a big deal. Obviously it is much bigger than you would, or will ever wager, because you do not have close to that amount of money. I have forgotten more about Vegas and Football than you will ever remember. If you are such a hot shot, I will be looking for your tail in September when the College Football Season starts. 5 grand a game. Show up or get out. No B.S. accepted from know it alls like you. You will never wager that amount because you do not have it, so keep your pie hole shut.

What htis has to do with this thread is beyond me. Get a life, loser.

[ProfaneReality]

to my understanding, Jewish funerals are not open casket. not sure though.

Jewish funerals also do not take place in chapels.....

[Grandmaster B]

could the feds erase your existence if they wanted to? hypothetically speaking

[raydog]

i wouldnt put anything past the shrink... the whole thing is fishy as fukk and thats non debatable. its definitely one of the most bizarre and questionable things ive seen in quite a while... sleeping pills/carbon monoxide??? get the fukk outta here...just take more of the pills and be done with it. plus, i dont care where you are, that shit would be all over their news. i feel bad for the family if its all true, but hoopster, all that shit can be doctored and it doesnt take people as "high up" as bigdaddy seems to think, to do it....anywaysssssssssss...one thing i know for sure is that im not believing that someone called the coroner and they actually told the caller that they have the bodies in the morgue...just more bullshit imo

[chano]

tired of this shit already to be honest... you will never convince me that his wife went along with a suicide... she wouldnt leave those kids and grandkids.... imo, this is a horrible cover up for one of the shadiest people the industry has ever seen... i dont really even care enough to guess about what happened, but i know its common practice for deaths to be faked when you turn rat and go into protective custody. so any document confirming suicide or death or whatever, is just a piece of paper...and any funeral proceedings without a viewing of the bodies is completely useless in my book. i hate to sound like an asshole, but fukk it, i dont believe a word of any of this. i really hope its not true for the sake of the kids and grandkids jackie had. too much shit doesnt add up...thats about all i have to say bout it.

this is the greatest post yet !! you say all the correct things and make complete sense. I ditto this 100 %

[hoopster42]

ray, lets say youre a family member and you want to see your dead loved on at the coroner's office. you call up and ask if the body is there. how can the person on the phone confirm that you are a family member over the phone? they dont have your personal info to cross check it. so the person at the coroner's office says "yes, the body is here", or "the bodies are here". now, allowing just anyone to come to the morgue and go looking at just anyone's body is probably a legal or ethical violation, but simply answering a question over the phone is not a problem. it would be like calling a hotel and asking if a particular guest has checked in by saying their last name and the hotel front desk confirms that they are there. now, if it's michael jackson or michael jordan, you dont get to know which hotel he is staying at or which morgue his body is being kept at, but this guy The Shrink i can guarantee you is not known by anyone outside of the gambling forums and there are FAR FEWER posters at these forums than you might think. since UIGEA the traffic is down big time everywhere in forum world

[SexyMit]

All I know is I'm tired of seeing thread after thread about this, he's dead who cares. MOVE ON!

[flyingillini]

He is probably on a Beach somewhere and enjoying all of this attention from all the forums.

[Extra Innings]

UFO Convention tonight @ JJ's House. 9 Sharp.

[flyingillini]

May Christ be with the both if them if they have passed. If they are on a beach now having a drink, god bless them!

[INVEGA MAN]

Yes, and in 20 years they are going to make a movie about the Shrink. How the witness protection program went all out to say he died. Having 2 empty caskets and funeral and even paying to have the familie fly from all over the country to attend the fake funeral. This is big time here. They even got the Shrink,s mother to be in on it. Damn, I cant wait to see the movie. Shrink and Jackie are laughing at us and enjoing life once again.

[pats3peat]

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