Credit Wagering threatens my mom?

[Iwinyourmoney]

warrior, he would. Probably 6-7 times total for 2-3 weeks, would tell me about contests coming up and so on, would rant about people being stupid (would never give names). It was pretty interesting to hear to straight from the inside about how the industry works and so on.

This was when CW was first opened and Im pretty sure I was one of there biggest players. Here's a little history for ya (looking at it now). Since playing at CW I have made 644 bets. From 3/08-5/08 I made 220 wagers. That was during there startup period

[Iwinyourmoney]

If anyone wants proof that CW pays, I would be happy to show it

[sharpcat]

I'm not bent out of shape at all. I thought we are grown men here, having a discussion.

Just want some answers more than anything, and Im not happy to hear about people claiming creditwagering is calling them threatening to slamf*ck dudes mom in the mouth

If Im bent out of shape thats why

So why pick a fight with me?????

I'm not happy to hear that people are stiffing books!!!!!!

If a book stiffs a player they get a D rating on SBR

if a player admits to stiffing a book he should get banned from SBR

If you took a book for money and tried to cash out and they slow paid you would you call them???????? once? twice? honestly just answer this question

[warriorfan707]

Well I don't know what to say. Sounds like this Ben is actually a decent guy, maybe all the stiffs have sent him over the edge...

But the point is you cant call someone and say you're gonna go shove your dick down his moms throat because he lost gambling credits online...

Thats horrible business, and they are shooting themselves in the foot. They gotta know better than this, thats just unbelievable and I honestly can't even fathom it.

Its one thing to read something like that on an online forum but if someone said that to me Id flip the f out

[sharpcat]

Well I don't know what to say. Sounds like this Ben is actually a decent guy, maybe all the stiffs have sent him over the edge...

But the point is you cant call someone and say you're gonna go shove your dick down his moms throat because he lost gambling credits online...

Thats horrible business, and they are shooting themselves in the foot. They gotta know better than this, thats just unbelievable and I honestly can't even fathom it.

Its one thing to read something like that on an online forum but if someone said that to me Id flip the f out

go back and read the first post of the thread the guy said he had no money to pay him and laughed at him!!!!!!!

[warriorfan707]

So why pick a fight with me?????

I'm not happy to hear that people are stiffing books!!!!!!

If a book stiffs a player they get a D rating on SBR

if a player admits to stiffing a book he should get banned from SBR

If you took a book for money and tried to cash out and they slow paid you would you call them???????? once? twice? honestly just answer this question

Stiffing a book for money

Noone put a gun to bens head and said he has to give every person in the U.S and their mom a 1k credit line

what this book is doing is very unusual and unprecedented

[warriorfan707]

go back and read the first post of the thread the guy said he had no money to pay him and laughed at him!!!!!!!

You are really making me wonder man....

You seem like you are scrambling to salvage Bens reputation and trying to direct people to pay creditwagering

Mods can we get an IP check on this guy?

[Lint Pockets]

i wouldnt worry about it they did the same thing with me they called my house and when my sister picked up and said hello the guy said "let me speak to the bitch" meaning me and i got on the phone and just laughed at the stiff saying he sucks and his company sucks and its not even legit. i havent heard from them since but they also threatened me too saying i was gonna get a visit paid to me and that was about a year and a half ago and they didnt do a damn thing. they also told me to tell my cousin if he didnt pay them that he was going to get his knee caps broken so obviously they are just a bunch of losers who are running this shady sports betting ring and i hope one day they get shut down.

[sharpcat]

Stiffing a book for money

Noone put a gun to bens head and said he has to give every person in the U.S and their mom a 1k credit line

what this book is doing is very unusual and unprecedented

Honestly dude go look up the definition of credit, it is far different from a freeroll or a bonus. Credit has to be paid back!

[sharpcat]

You are really making me wonder man....

You seem like you are scrambling to salvage Bens reputation and trying to direct people to pay creditwagering

Mods can we get an IP check on this guy?

whats your beef with credit wagering? how much did you lose?

[warriorfan707]

"let me speak to the bitch"

[warriorfan707]

whats your beef with credit wagering? how much did you lose?

Have never played with them, I only play with A+ books

[warriorfan707]

I would be willing to wager on the fact that either "Sharpcat" is Ben himself, or a CW shill

[sharpcat]

Have never played with them, I only play with A+ books

If a book slow paid you for a month or 2 what would you do?

[warriorfan707]

If a book slow paid you for a month or 2 what would you do?

I wouldn't pull my dick out of my pants and force his moms mouth open thats for sure

[sharpcat]

I wouldn't pull my dick out of my pants and force his moms mouth open thats for sure

so what if the bookie laughed at you and said he was not gonna pay you?

I guess you would just roll over like a weak dog

[THE PROFIT]

According to IWIN's post, Ben sounds like a decent guy. He sounds like most locals I know, and I know a few.
Old school guys who don't care if you win but want you to pay when you lose, like a man does!
I have no doubt these guys have people who will collect, just like a local book does. I hope this dipshit gets what's coming to him. It's one thing to stiff a man on paper, but if he's paid you twice you say & now you wont pay him? I just hope for your sake that he's more compassionate than my squad was. When I sent my boys after money I never asked them how they got it cause I didn't give a *uck & they knew it, so sometimes they got out of line. But only when I had exhausted every other means.
If you can't pay all you have to do is pick up the phone & call. But when someone would dodge me & lie to me again & again, you don't *uck with a mans money, maybe you'll understand that when you get older.
Just a heads up, the cops don't give a shit, they hate degenerate low life thieves too & what you're doing is just as illegal as what they are doing if not worse. If you do something like that you're making it worse for yourself on both ends.
Also if they do come to your house, better put any valuables in a safe deposit box. My boys knew I wanted my money but sometimes you can't get blood from a turnip! So they'd bring stereos, xbox, jewelery, DVD's, leather coats, anything to get money out of. Do you think any of these guys even thought about calling the cops?
Things get serious sometimes when you're dealing with serious people so just watch out & don't do anything any more stupid than what you've done

[warriorfan707]

so what if the bookie laughed at you and said he was not gonna pay you?

I guess you would just roll over like a weak dog

I would never put myself in such a situation

Like I said A+ only books

Creditwagering would give a 1k credit line to 12 year old Japanese kid who was visiting the U.S for a week so he could take a tour of alcatraz

[sharpcat]

I would never put myself in such a situation

Like I said A+ only books

Creditwagering would give a 1k credit line to 12 year old Japanese kid who was visiting the U.S for a week so he could take a tour of alcatraz

well welcome to the underworld children, if a deal sounds to good to be true than it is don't bet with money you don't have.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

[warriorfan707]

well welcome to the underworld children, if a deal sounds to good to be true than it is don't bet with money you don't have.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

You should change your username

You're just not understanding

CW did this to themselves

No doubt when they wrote up their business plan they knew most people wouldnt bother to pay them, and yet they proceeded anyway

[blix177]

Tell them they can either credit it to their allowance for doubtful account side or they can do a book to book transfer with betcascade for the credit amount. Tell them you owe them X amount and betcascade owe you X amount. And tell them they can ask betcascade for it.

[blix177]

Or next time they call tell them you died.

[Iwinyourmoney]

You should change your username

You're just not understanding

CW did this to themselves

No doubt when they wrote up their business plan they knew most people wouldnt bother to pay them, and yet they proceeded anyway

This was on subject I spoke with Ben about. They assumed a high % would stiff, they were focusing on the 30% or less that would stay playing, win lose or draw.

Like I said I haven't spoke to Ben or cw in a long time, but I don't think they expected the super stiff (won and got paid, lost and didn't) % numbers to be as high as I ASSUME they are

[Iwinyourmoney]

Let's also remember something guys, although stiffs hurt cw very much so...regular stiffs (sign up and lose right away) in reality don't cost cw a single penny. If 1 out of 10 pay, I would chalk it up as a win

[sharpcat]

You should change your username

You're just not understanding

CW did this to themselves

No doubt when they wrote up their business plan they knew most people wouldnt bother to pay them, and yet they proceeded anyway

yeah, bookies in New york city have been doing it since the 20's nothing better than having some degenerate gambler in your pocket.

Buy a book or two kid bookmaking has been the bread and butter for the mafia since your grandfather was your age. 90%credit wagering and yes they too knew they would not get paid thats where plan B comes into play.

so more a less the stiffs did this too themselves, just like the bookmaker has so much of an edge over the player that he is guaranteed to win.

now maybe players who never withdrew money are safe because the book never really lost anything on them, but if you were paid twice and than stiffed the book than they will come looking for you.

this shit has been going on forever the book did not walk into this blind.

[warriorfan707]

This was on subject I spoke with Ben about. They assumed a high % would stiff, they were focusing on the 30% or less that would stay playing, win lose or draw.

Like I said I haven't spoke to Ben or cw in a long time, but I don't think they expected the super stiff (won and got paid, lost and didn't) % numbers to be as high as I ASSUME they are

Thats another thing... it seems kind of odd to me that they would divulge projections like that to their clients

Its almost like they were straight up telling you, take a free shot at us, if you lose we don't care because its what we expected

The truth is these guys are horrible businessmen, the worst I have ever heard of

[warriorfan707]

Let's also remember something guys, although stiffs hurt cw very much so...regular stiffs (sign up and lose right away) in reality don't cost cw a single penny. If 1 out of 10 pay, I would chalk it up as a win

Thats one thing they have going for them, most people just sign up and lose anyway.

Doesnt cost them a penny. Might as well have been monopoly money

[warriorfan707]

yeah, bookies in New york city have been doing it since the 20's nothing better than having some degenerate gambler in your pocket.

Buy a book or two kid bookmaking has been the bread and butter for the mafia since your grandfather was your age. 90%credit wagering and yes they too knew they would not get paid thats where plan B comes into play.

so more a less the stiffs did this too themselves, just like the bookmaker has so much of an edge over the player that he is guaranteed to win.

now maybe players who never withdrew money are safe because the book never really lost anything on them, but if you were paid twice and than stiffed the book than they will come looking for you.

this shit has been going on forever the book did not walk into this blind.

Then why has their not been one legit report of physical violence?

Can you explain this????

[sharpcat]

Thats another thing... it seems kind of odd to me that they would divulge projections like that to their clients

Its almost like they were straight up telling you, take a free shot at us, if you lose we don't care because its what we expected

The truth is these guys are horrible businessmen, the worst I have ever heard of

you miss the point if a player loses the $1000 than the book lost nothing, if a player wins $2,000 cashes out and than stiffs the book he has now stolen $2,000.

[sharpcat]

Then why has their not been one legit report of physical violence?

Can you explain this????

how many people bet with them?

how many of those people post on this site?

it would be like finding a needle in a hay stack.

or maybe they are somehow legit in the U.S. in which case debt collectors could reclaim the money or turn it into collections, f up that persons credit score and still get paid eventually.

[Iwinyourmoney]

Warrior, Ben trusted me and i had already paid once before so he knew I wasn't running. I asked him straight up "how the fuk u going to survive" just like everyone else has asked

[sharpcat]

seriously no disrespect just curious how old are you? and how long have you been gambling for?

[warriorfan707]

how many people bet with them?

how many of those people post on this site?

it would be like finding a needle in a hay stack.

or maybe they are somehow legit in the U.S. in which case debt collectors could reclaim the money or turn it into collections, f up that persons credit score and still get paid eventually.

You don't fool me for one second

[sharpcat]

alright there little fella actions speak louder than words

go buy some books about gambling and organized crime, I could tell from the get go from the 12 and 17 cent money lines that you set that you are about as green as green can be and I'm off to bed can't waste any more time trying to teach a 20 year old know it all the game.

[sharpcat]

Hey mods lets look into banning some of these admitted stiffs on this thread they are a disgrace to the professionalism of this site and are no better than the D rated books, they do not deserve the knowledge that they could learn here!!!!!!!!!

Good night children