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  • MexicanStallion
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-08-08
    • 20429

    #36
    Originally posted by Swinging Johnson
    Pavy, if you want someone to ferret out who is right and who is wrong in a dispute over points, I have to tell you, it may be time for you to get a job and occupy your time. We're talking about POINTS, not even money. And you want SBR to do an internal audit of your deals with other posters over, again let me repeat, points? Are you high? No seriously, are you hittin' the pipe? I think your new name should be Chris Telmeth because you either gotta stop smoking or stop whining.
    I would like to take over and do internal audits over deals for SBR. I have plenty of time to kill.
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    • 1st and Ten
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-13-09
      • 5131

      #37
      Who would want to get involved in that mess?
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82668

        #38
        Every single point stiff should be audited and every dispute should be examined by an independent panel. If you want to run a successfully business here you should have integrity as your #1 core value.
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        • Swinging Johnson
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-12-09
          • 7604

          #39
          Originally posted by MexicanStallion
          I would like to take over and do internal audits over deals for SBR. I have plenty of time to kill.
          Yes, my Mexican brother you do have plenty of time judging from the number of posts and points you've accumulated. I am certain you would do a fine job and Pavy could finally sleep at night knowing he brought truth, justice and the American way to SBR.
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          • Swinging Johnson
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-12-09
            • 7604

            #40
            Originally posted by pavyracer
            Every single point stiff should be audited and every dispute should be examined by an independent panel. If you want to run a successfully business here you should have integrity as your #1 core value.
            Young lady, you need to stop worrying your pretty little head over these things. No go put on something frilly so I can look at you.
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            • obamaismyuncle
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-31-08
              • 17801

              #41
              The people who are loaning the points need to realize that the ones borrowing will lose whatever is loaned to them. And them people are so hard up for action, that when they lose the points borrowed to them, theirs noway them same people are gonna part with their 6 points a day to use paying their loans.
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              • DrStale
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-07-08
                • 9692

                #42
                Bottom line is if you're not going to regulate the points situation then you shouldn't allow loaning or poster pointbooks. How can you run a site where you pick and choose what you're going to go after posters for? People get banned for telling others to kill themselves but not for ripping other posters off? That's a screwed up way to run things.
                Originally posted by Dark Horse
                If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82668

                  #43
                  DrStale this is another example of why this place is a jungle. There are no rules. You can bash someone with ever single word imaginable except the one single word that is banned.
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                  • Swinging Johnson
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-12-09
                    • 7604

                    #44
                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                    DrStale this is another example of why this place is a jungle. There are no rules. You can bash someone with ever single word imaginable except the one single word that is banned.
                    Thank God they haven't banned idiot. We wouldn't know what to call you!
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82668

                      #45
                      Keep calling me whatever you want. Spineless worms who feed on dirt bore me to death.
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                      • DrStale
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-07-08
                        • 9692

                        #46
                        I cant wait until someone gets ripped off for a hundred points, calls the guy a certain derogatory term, and then gets banned.

                        Sorta like getting your wallet stolen and calling the guy a dick, then getting locked up for disorderly conduct.
                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                        If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                        • Swinging Johnson
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-12-09
                          • 7604

                          #47
                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                          Keep calling me whatever you want. Spineless worms who feed on dirt bore me to death.
                          No Pavy, I feed on inane, insipid and ignorant comments. You're a veritable buffet for someone like me. You took the first shot there cupcake. I'm merely responding. Perhaps you just started this thread to create action. That's the only possible reason to take SBR to task for not monitoring the private deals between posters for points! I wouldn't expect them to get involved even if it were money but for points no less and YOU start a thread bitching and moaning about it. Take care of your own damn problems instead of telling SBR how to do their business when you can't even take care of your own!

                          Now if you created this thread to get a rise out of people, I say, well done. But we both know you're not that sharp.
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                          • Swinging Johnson
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-12-09
                            • 7604

                            #48
                            By the way.... I had Marquette + the points for another lockline winner. You can hear my other play in the NBA here.. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Spor...ok=CaribSports
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                            • StraitShooter
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-22-09
                              • 10464

                              #49
                              What kind of standards do we accept as human beings?

                              If we see some baboon steal an old ladies purse do we invite him home to dinner?..Or break a baseball bat over his head as he runs by us?..Personally..I would use aluminum..

                              If some SOB goes in the points forums..borrows 50-100 points and never makes an effort to pay back 1 red cent..all the while frolicking amongst the contest..kick his ass the hell out of here

                              this guy aint got 2 cents to rub together anyways and the sportsbooks are wasting their time with him..

                              Obama is my uncle..you are dead wrong about stereotyping guys who borrow..from guys who stiff..

                              I borrow points..and I pay them back..I play as much money off shore as some of you..in 2007 I canceled my bonus system at 5 dimes..here are my deposits until that moment
                              1/20/2007$1,600.00$0.00$8,000.00$160.00MatchC ancelled 11/19/2007$1,400.00$0.00$7,000.00$140.00MatchC ancelled 11/18/2007$1,500.00$0.00$7,500.00$150.00MatchC ancelled 11/17/2007$990.00$0.00$4,950.00$99.00MatchCanc elled 11/12/2007$990.00$4,950.00$4,950.00$99.00Match Awarded 11/11/2007$1,500.00$7,500.00$7,500.00$150.00Ma tchAwarded 11/8/2007$990.00$4,950.00$4,950.00$99.00Match Awarded 11/7/2007$990.00$4,950.00$4,950.00$99.00Match Awarded 11/6/2007$700.00$3,500.00$3,500.00$70.00Match Awarded 11/5/2007$990.00$4,950.00$4,950.00$99.00Match Awarded 11/2/2007$990.00$4,950.00$4,950.00$99.00Match Awarded 10/28/2007$990.00$4,950.00$4,950.00$99.00Match Awarded 10/25/2007$990.00$4,950.00$4,950.00$99.00Match Awarded 9/21/2007$990.00$4,950.00$4,950.00$99.00Match Awarded 9/13/2007$990.00$4,950.00$4,950.00$99.00Match Awarded 8/30/2007$700.00$3,500.00$3,500.00$70.00Match Awarded 8/28/2007$700.00$3,500.00$3,500.00$70.00Match Awarded 8/14/2007$550.00$2,750.00$2,750.00$55.00Match Awarded 8/5/2007$400.00$2,000.00$2,000.00$40.00Match Awarded 8/2/2007$700.00$3,500.00$3,500.00$70.00Match Awarded 7/28/2007$500.00$2,500.00$2,500.00$50.00Match Awarded

                              Today..when I have over $100 on a game I cant even watch it..Nothing but sufferage and no longer fun..thats what I got into betting for..was the fun..I never expected to get rich

                              The morale of my story is I get a rush of a 50 point bet..just as I do from a 20 dollar bet..

                              To the guy who says they are only worth 6 cents..all I know is 225 of them gets me a free play and its one less deposit..I may be stupid but I prefer playing with money I did not have to go out and sweat for..


                              So today..I have a couple hundred in action and 50 points worth of action..and I could not be happier..

                              This place is too good to be true..send all the points stiffs to hell with the horse they rode in on
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                              • StraitShooter
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-22-09
                                • 10464

                                #50
                                Swinging Johnson

                                as far as you sir..you seem to be touting carib a bit here

                                I have sent them 2-3 k over the past 4 years and never had a problem

                                I actually consider them a top tier book

                                Never could understand the pokerdummy beef

                                But be sure there are some of us here who think highly of your joint
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                                • Swinging Johnson
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-12-09
                                  • 7604

                                  #51
                                  Thank you straitshooter. I appreciate your candor. I think you're my next shout out on my podcast (featured exclusively at Caribsports). Good Luck today!
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                                  • JohnAnthony
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 04-30-09
                                    • 5110

                                    #52
                                    I've explained this before but won't bother now: it's simply against SBR's interests.
                                    "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

                                    - D.H. Lawrence
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                                    • whatsgood5
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 10-13-09
                                      • 15359

                                      #53
                                      Nah I say they keep their laissez-faire approach
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                                      • williams22
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 09-19-08
                                        • 6134

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by whatsgood5
                                        Nah I say they keep their laissez-faire approach
                                        This kid should not be allowed in any SBR contests, just ask any of the 4 loaners he has stiffed.
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                                        • obamaismyuncle
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-31-08
                                          • 17801

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by williams22
                                          This kid should not be allowed in any SBR contests, just ask any of the 4 loaners he has stiffed.

                                          Didn't you steal a ton of points from posters??? You always chime in on these "point stiffs" subjects, but whats your story???
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                                          • StraitShooter
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-22-09
                                            • 10464

                                            #56
                                            RARE 8MM FILM OF jjGOLD CHILDHOOD

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                                            • JohnAnthony
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 04-30-09
                                              • 5110

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
                                              Didn't you steal a ton of points from posters??? You always chime in on these "point stiffs" subjects, but whats your story???
                                              Come on O', as long as he's paying and contributing to the forum (spreadsheets, best bet threads and credit report) - why not just give his story some credit? it was his fault regardless but he's obviously doing his best to payback and he's got some arrangements in place already.
                                              "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

                                              - D.H. Lawrence
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                                              • williams22
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 09-19-08
                                                • 6134

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
                                                Didn't you steal a ton of points from posters??? You always chime in on these "point stiffs" subjects, but whats your story???
                                                I lost thousands of points that users had deposited with me. I have since repaid every single one of them and now only owe MexicanStallion, who I have already paid over 800 points to. If anyone had reason to stiff it would be me, as I owed more than any person on this site ever has, yet I've kept to my word and have repaid every point I have received since then.

                                                The reason I comment on stiffs often is because I produce the Credit Report found in the sbr point subforum, so I'm fairly familiar with most of these lowlifes.
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                                                • StraitShooter
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-22-09
                                                  • 10464

                                                  #59
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                                                  • StraitShooter
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-22-09
                                                    • 10464

                                                    #60
                                                    yeah..that credit report stuff is just insane
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                                                    • obamaismyuncle
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-31-08
                                                      • 17801

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by williams22
                                                      I lost thousands of points that users had deposited with me. I have since repaid every single one of them and now only owe MexicanStallion, who I have already paid over 800 points to. If anyone had reason to stiff it would be me, as I owed more than any person on this site ever has, yet I've kept to my word and have repaid every point I have received since then.

                                                      The reason I comment on stiffs often is because I produce the Credit Report found in the sbr point subforum, so I'm fairly familiar with most of these lowlifes.

                                                      Nice job Maybe others will follow your lead. I had only heard bits and pieces of the story cause I don't go into the SBR points section. Well done sir.
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                                                      • Carseller4
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-22-09
                                                        • 19627

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
                                                        Didn't you steal a ton of points from posters??? You always chime in on these "point stiffs" subjects, but whats your story???
                                                        Big difference between a pts stiff and someone who made a mistake and is paying back.

                                                        williams22 is a great asset here on SBR!
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                                                        • williams22
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 09-19-08
                                                          • 6134

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
                                                          Nice job Maybe others will follow your lead. I had only heard bits and pieces of the story cause I don't go into the SBR points section. Well done sir.
                                                          Thank you. I certainly am to blame for what happened whether you believe my story or not. The important part is that I could have easily disappeared, but I didn't. That's why I take even more issue with idiots like whatsgood5 who not only stiff, but rub it in lenders faces.

                                                          Aside from the Credit Report, I also run the NBA Best Bets thread.
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                                                          • StraitShooter
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-22-09
                                                            • 10464

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
                                                            Nice job Maybe others will follow your lead. I had only heard bits and pieces of the story cause I don't go into the SBR points section. Well done sir.
                                                            you should read it..some of the more entertaining threads in the loan section
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                                                            • JohnAnthony
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 04-30-09
                                                              • 5110

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Carseller4
                                                              williams22 is a great asset here on SBR!
                                                              Yep. Said it from day one, since he was deep down. Overall very +EV to this forum.
                                                              "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

                                                              - D.H. Lawrence
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                                                              • obamaismyuncle
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-31-08
                                                                • 17801

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                                                you should read it..some of the more entertaining threads in the loan section

                                                                Thanks, I can imagine...

                                                                BTW....nice avatar..
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                                                                • williams22
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 09-19-08
                                                                  • 6134

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Thank you very much for the points, John
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                                                                  • Lost Angel
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-15-09
                                                                    • 856

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by williams22
                                                                    The important part is that I could have easily disappeared, but I didn't.
                                                                    Its true. Another truth is that 80% + of people would likely have taken the route of disappearance, resetting an IP, coming back and being careful of what they posted rather than paying back the MASSIVE amount of points that Williams did.

                                                                    I agree that you have more "place" to gripe about pointstiffs and it doesn't bother me when you (or others) do but it is really a "glass half empty" proposition. Kids will be Kids, "whatsgood5" a prime example of this. Maybe he will grow up someday, mature into something other than a deadbeat...prolly not.

                                                                    My point being that theres gonna be stiffs, law of nature. I propose that an EQUAL (at least) amount of time be devoted to praising those who DO PAY BACK as is spent bitching about stiffs....

                                                                    maybe that would even inspire a few of the children to mature a little faster

                                                                    and repay their debts.

                                                                    Yeah...i am naive.

                                                                    What happened with iwutitan, Williams? I thought it was you that he owed...maybe not but if so did he ever repay?
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                                                                    • Lost Angel
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 11-15-09
                                                                      • 856

                                                                      #69
                                                                      wtf is this supposed to mean OBAMA????:

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                                                                      • DrStale
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 12-07-08
                                                                        • 9692

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by whatsgood5
                                                                        Nah I say they keep their laissez-faire approach
                                                                        I would tell you to kill yourself, but that gets people banned around these parts, so could you just injure yourself? Or at least disappear shamefully into the night? Thanks.
                                                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                                        If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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