Obama Grants 9/11 Mastermind All The Judicial Rights Of A U.S. Citizen

[tblues2005]

HEY Buddie! I give you Bush was a awful President. I am a proud conservative! Above in my post I said he, BUSH was a poor president. I am not running from that. Enough said. You are a typical liberal. You didn't answer my question. What is Obama doing that is so great. Don't give me that BS he was left with GW mess. We all know that, but he is doing plenty of fukked up stuff that had nothing to do with the past president. Like I say to all you librerals out there... Get your head out of your tail... Give me some positive things this president has done. What do you people get from supporting this president??

I respect you for being a conservative and I respect you for what you are saying about Bush and we are getting somewhere now. I will tell you that Obama has done some things that has not been good in my eyes either. I don't like you stating me as a typical liberal when that isn't the case here. I try to be fair and look at the mess he took over. If you don't seem to understand that then I don't know what to say here. I don't stand up for Obama on every issue but I have to give him credit for trying to get things back on track. It is going to take some time. Some of these folks are so impatient and that is incredible to me. You expect him to get things back on track in less than a year. You have to be joking?

You want me to say things that he has done that has been right. For first things that he has done right he is trying to get the health care system corrected. In the last 8 years health care costs have gone up tremendously and I know that from seeing a friends cost go up from $350 a month in 2000 to $1300 a month now. That is unacceptable to go up that much in 8 short years for my friend that lives right next door to me. I give it to Obama for trying on health care.

Obama has a heart and he cares about people that is hurting. Remember he has given a tax break to 95 percent of Americans. Putting money back into normal peoples pockets is what will eventually get this economy back on track. The best way of getting the economy back on track is to see to it that there is a middle class which has been clobbered.

Sure lyon I understand your point that he has been putting us into more debt and that is an issue to me. I am concerned about this and I am also concerned about our dollar value also. Like I said lyon I do have issues with Obama but I do see it better than when Bush was in office which was really awful for the last two years of his term.

[buztah]

Lyon, Obama would spit on every one of these White liberals in this thread who are standing up for him. He is the biggest scumbag white hater you'll ever see, even taking his children to listen to the Black power bullshit of his preacher pal for years on end. The man hates Whites and is incompetent. All the liberals can say is that Bush was a problem. Fine. Bush was far from ideal. Yet the libbies will never admit they made a HUGE MISTAKE when they elected an incompetent racist to the oval office. OBAMA will go down as the worst president since the civil war to date. The country has gotten far worse since Obama stepped into the president's shoes. He has no solutions and can only defer the issues to "committees." Gutless, brainless, hopeless motherphucker! IMPEACH HIM NOW!

[tblues2005]

Lyon, Obama would spit on every one of these White liberals in this thread who are standing up for him. He is the biggest scumbag white hater you'll ever see, even taking his children to listen to the Black power bullshit of his preacher pal for years on end. The man hates Whites and is incompetent. All the liberals can say is that Bush was a problem. Fine. Bush was far from ideal. Yet the libbies will never admit they made a HUGE MISTAKE when they elected an incompetent racist to the oval office. OBAMA will go down as the worst president since the civil war to date. The country has gotten far worse since Obama stepped into the president's shoes. He has no solutions and can only defer the issues to "committees." Gutless, brainless, hopeless motherphucker! IMPEACH HIM NOW!

Where was you when Bush was in office when we needed to impeach him? Come on!

[buztah]

TB, Bush sucked ass. I am not defending Bush. The whole world believed Obama would be different. He is WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tblues2005]

buztah. Like I have said before I have been disappointed so far but to impeach him? come on now. If you were saying this a year from now I might agree. Please give me a reason why to impeach him when i did not hear cries about impeaching Bush in the last year from you.

[lyon804]

Just get used to it. Everything this Marxist moolie screws up for the next 4 years they'll continue to blame on Bush.

They don't care that Obama lied when he spoke of transparency, of not appointing lobbyists, of making Afghanistan a priority, etc. They don't care that he has a cabinet filled with tax cheats and other criminals. They don't care he has already taken more golf outings than Bush did his entire Presidency. They don't care that he uses taxpayer money to take his wife out on date nights and traveling to leno to make fun of the special Olympics.

He's their effin man love and they all dream of being Larry Sinclair.glgl

Lyon, Obama would spit on every one of these White liberals in this thread who are standing up for him. He is the biggest scumbag white hater you'll ever see, even taking his children to listen to the Black power bullshit of his preacher pal for years on end. The man hates Whites and is incompetent. All the liberals can say is that Bush was a problem. Fine. Bush was far from ideal. Yet the libbies will never admit they made a HUGE MISTAKE when they elected an incompetent racist to the oval office. OBAMA will go down as the worst president since the civil war to date. The country has gotten far worse since Obama stepped into the president's shoes. He has no solutions and can only defer the issues to "committees." Gutless, brainless, hopeless motherphucker! IMPEACH HIM NOW!

That is classic!! Cheers fellas! Thats says it all. Buztah, took all the words out of my mouth.

[buztah]

buztah. Like I have said before I have been disappointed so far but to impeach him? come on now. If you were saying this a year from now I might agree. Please give me a reason why to impeach him when i did not hear cries about impeaching Bush in the last year from you.

Ahhh, TB. Youa dmit he has been a disappointment. That's a bit of progress and I salute you for having the balls to admit such.

As for impeaching him, why let him continue taking the country down this death spiral course? He has proposed no solutions and merely deferred the issues to others and deflected blame. If the repubs do not take back congress (don't worry though as they will in a landslide) then America will be bankrupt and absolutely finished in 2 years. Your dollar will be the new peso.

[lyon804]

OBAMA will go down as the worst president since the civil war to date. The country has gotten far worse since Obama stepped into the president's shoes. He has no solutions and can only defer the issues to "committees." Gutless, brainless, hopeless motherphucker! IMPEACH HIM NOW![/quote]

Buztah, this is my favorite part of what you said. It is perfect and so true yet the libbies are quite right now. There only comeback is Bush this... Bush that. Hello, we can all agree that the Bush thing was a failed presidency. I want the libbies to give me some good on Obama, but they are awful quite right now. What about all his broken promises? The guy is a joke! After his time passes he will set the black race back 100's of years because the ignorant white people that eleted him shall not do so again... I hope. Never know the white libbies of this coutry was dumb enough this time.

[tblues2005]

Ahhh, TB. Youa dmit he has been a disappointment. That's a bit of progress and I salute you for having the balls to admit such.

As for impeaching him, why let him continue taking the country down this death spiral course? He has proposed no solutions and merely deferred the issues to others and deflected blame. If the repubs do not take back congress (don't worry though as they will in a landslide) then America will be bankrupt and absolutely finished in 2 years. Your dollar will be the new peso.

The GOP has better come out with ideas and not blasting everything the Democrats do. I read an article in the USA Today yesterday that said the same kind of thing with Cal and Bob that said the GOP better put more moderates in because the far right candidates is not working. I cannot see the country going Republican totally because of the Bush era is so fresh on everybody's minds right now. I sure don't want to go back to that no doubt. That was an awful last two years of Bush no doubt. The key is to get moderates in office. Obama is liberal on lots of issues I do give you that. I do see his foreign relations is much better than what we had that other country leaders hated.

[lyon804]

The liberal is awful quite.... Wait... Wait. I sense DAGGERKOBE getting ready to send us all some links.

I was wrong about at least 1 thing. Daggerkobe has not provided any insightful links upon my request to prove the wonderful things that Obama is doing. I guess you can only spin things so far.

[buztah]

Lyon, the white libbies are cowards who fear expressing their true opinions. They fear being labeled "racist" for daring to criticize this joke of a "leader." Label me what you will but this Obama character is incompetent and has shown NO sign that he has ANY solution to the pressing issues.

And as for the statements above defending the decision to try the terrorist with all the rights of an American citizen, I say once again that American leadership is gutless. Do you really think terrorists and America haters worldwide will forego planned attacks and subdue their hatred b/c the terrorist is put through the shennanigans of a "fair trial." We all know, much like in the case of Saddam's "fair trial," how this trial will end. Yet, at a time when the country is hurting economically and the taxpayer is being crushed, Obama wants to take YOUR money to defend a man that brutally and callously orchestrated an attack on America.

PHUCK THAT COWARDLY BITCH! We need a leader with brains and balls. Bush had the balls but no brains. Obama has no brains nor balls. When will America get it right?

[tblues2005]

OBAMA will go down as the worst president since the civil war to date. The country has gotten far worse since Obama stepped into the president's shoes. He has no solutions and can only defer the issues to "committees." Gutless, brainless, hopeless motherphucker! IMPEACH HIM NOW!

Buztah, this is my favorite part of what you said. It is perfect and so true yet the libbies are quite right now. There only comeback is Bush this... Bush that. Hello, we can all agree that the Bush thing was a failed presidency. I want the libbies to give me some good on Obama, but they are awful quite right now. What about all his broken promises? The guy is a joke! After his time passes he will set the black race back 100's of years because the ignorant white people that eleted him shall not do so again... I hope. Never know the white libbies of this coutry was dumb enough this time.[/quote]

Think about it lyon we have been lied to by Bush so many times it is not funny. It is very hard to trust the Republican party right now. We had 8 years of a horrible President and now you really want to talk about how bad Obama has been only after 9 months and not give him a chance at all. I give it to you that Obama hasn't backed up some of his promises but from what I can see on fact check it hasn't been that bad. Let me show you on obamameter. Here's the link.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

So far to date he has kept 54 promises,14 was compromised, and 7 was broken. That isn't too bad lyon.

[lyon804]

I respect you for being a conservative and I respect you for what you are saying about Bush and we are getting somewhere now. I will tell you that Obama has done some things that has not been good in my eyes either. I don't like you stating me as a typical liberal when that isn't the case here. I try to be fair and look at the mess he took over. If you don't seem to understand that then I don't know what to say here. I don't stand up for Obama on every issue but I have to give him credit for trying to get things back on track. It is going to take some time. Some of these folks are so impatient and that is incredible to me. You expect him to get things back on track in less than a year. You have to be joking?

You want me to say things that he has done that has been right. For first things that he has done right he is trying to get the health care system corrected. In the last 8 years health care costs have gone up tremendously and I know that from seeing a friends cost go up from $350 a month in 2000 to $1300 a month now. That is unacceptable to go up that much in 8 short years for my friend that lives right next door to me. I give it to Obama for trying on health care.

Obama has a heart and he cares about people that is hurting. Remember he has given a tax break to 95 percent of Americans. Putting money back into normal peoples pockets is what will eventually get this economy back on track. The best way of getting the economy back on track is to see to it that there is a middle class which has been clobbered.

Sure lyon I understand your point that he has been putting us into more debt and that is an issue to me. I am concerned about this and I am also concerned about our dollar value also. Like I said lyon I do have issues with Obama but I do see it better than when Bush was in office which was really awful for the last two years of his term.

Agree TB. Bush and his constituants decided to rape this country furthur on there way out the door. It was already a failed preidency, but became exasberated in the final 2 years of office.

Obama, health care plan is a noble idea, but that's far from what is taking place here.
This isn't about healthcare, but pure socialism. Plain and simple. I agee healthcare is far from right in this country, but the government is not the answer.

Ask yourself this. What does government do well? What does government create?
Answer. NOTHING! Our government is the most inept thing on this planet. They are very criminal in nature. They do nothing,but represent special interest.
There is nothing government can do that private enterprise can do better.

You want these people to fix your healthcare?
O.K. good luck and God please be with us.

[lyon804]

Lyon, the white libbies are cowards who fear expressing their true opinions. They fear being labeled "racist" for daring to criticize this joke of a "leader." Label me what you will but this Obama character is incompetent and has shown NO sign that he has ANY solution to the pressing issues.

And as for the statements above defending the decision to try the terrorist with all the rights of an American citizen, I say once again that American leadership is gutless. Do you really think terrorists and America haters worldwide will forego planned attacks and subdue their hatred b/c the terrorist is put through the shennanigans of a "fair trial." We all know, much like in the case of Saddam's "fair trial," how this trial will end. Yet, at a time when the country is hurting economically and the taxpayer is being crushed, Obama wants to take YOUR money to defend a man that brutally and callously orchestrated an attack on America.



PHUCK THAT COWARDLY BITCH! We need a leader with brains and balls. Bush had the balls but no brains. Obama has no brains nor balls. When will America get it right?

I second all that especially the last part about Bush!

[lyon804]

Got the link Bluesy, but don't get it. Yea, he has kept some convenient promises. What about that war we were leaving the phucking second he took office? What happened there. I think there is no end in sight.

First, on the record. I didn't agree with invading Iraq. I know Bush went there primarily to make money for him and his buddies. I also don't think you can just leave it either. The job needs to get done. I am not saying I have the answers, but it needs to come to some kind of resolution. Obama, I assume knows this, but was such a liar he said he was pulling the troops out. Yea, remind me when that happens.

[lyon804]

Why have all you liberals left this thread? Why have you quit challenging me? I won't some phucking creative spin answers from you and your liberal spin links and I want them now damnit. Get your ass in here now. Man the phuck up and tell me why your OBAMA is such a great president. Don't give me... Well he cares??Well he wants to fix healthcare?? Give me something concrete. I want it now mutherskldkgm

[buztah]

Lyon, I also want to win the lottery. Liberals are all about ideas and feelings but can never propose workable REAL WORLD solutions.

[tblues2005]

Got the link Bluesy, but don't get it. Yea, he has kept some convenient promises. What about that war we were leaving the phucking second he took office? What happened there. I think there is no end in sight.

First, on the record. I didn't agree with invading Iraq. I know Bush went there primarily to make money for him and his buddies. I also don't think you can just leave it either. The job needs to get done. I am not saying I have the answers, but it needs to come to some kind of resolution. Obama, I assume knows this, but was such a liar he said he was pulling the troops out. Yea, remind me when that happens.

When you actually get into office then you don't realize that things happen that you did not intend to happen here. I want to agree with you on the war and I wish we could get out of there sooner. We just don't want to go back in there again and I think they are being careful on this. I do think that we are going to start getting out of there next summer.

Some of the promises he has kept and some of them I did disagree with him on. Trying to get the economy back on track is going to be very hard. This is something that no President has had to deal with in a very long time. With unemployment so high right now it is a tough job to do and he needs more time to get it back on track.

[lyon804]

Lyon, I also want to win the lottery. Liberals are all about ideas and feelings but can never propose workable REAL WORLD solutions.

I haven't seen any post from you that I don't agree with. That's funny because I sometimes don't agree with myself. We must have had a similar education, or raising. Something, I don't know.

[buztah]

I haven't seen any post from you that I don't agree with. That's funny because I sometimes don't agree with myself. We must have had a similar education, or raising. Something, I don't know.

common sense perhaps?

[lyon804]

common sense perhaps?

Perhaps! Problem is.. It's not so common.

[DwightShrute]

Military Court! Plain and simple. Anything less is a friggen embarrassment and an insult to the people of the United States, especially New Yorkers.

Obama has to go

1,164
Days Until Barack Obama is Out of Office

[lyon804]

Welcome Dwight! I believe my rhetoric scared are libbies off. Oh, well will bring them back for another round in a day or two.

[Indecent]

Why have all you liberals left this thread? Why have 7you quit challenging me? I won't some phucking creative spin answers from you and your liberal spin links and I want them now damnit. Get your ass in here now. Man the phuck up and tell me why your OBAMA is such a great president. Don't give me... Well he cares??Well he wants to fix healthcare?? Give me something concrete. I want it now mutherskldkgm

I'm don't align completely with either party, but I do like a few things Obama has done. I do like how he is starting to come around on state vs federal law issues, allowing some leeway for states to enforce their own laws. Two examples that come to mind are allowing California to create it's own emissions standards and the DEA's new stance on respecting state laws for medical marijuana issues. I believe it was already mentioned by someone else, but I like his position on exploring stem cell research and alternative energy.. the verdict is out on the alternative energy, who knows if that's a promise he will break or if it won't make top priority.

Does any of this make him a great president? No, of course not. I could make a longer list for things I feel he is doing wrong, but that's another discussion altogether.

[Dark Horse]

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[wtf]

Bad guy or not, he *is* innocent until proven guilty.

A lot of "spin" in this article, but even bad guys need to be proven guilty before they are judged. It might not be possible to get a fair trial.. I can't wait to see what they did to him while detained for who knows how many years.

spoken like a true lawyer

total buffoon

stick to your vids on arbitraging

[Shafted69]

Welcome Dwight! I believe my rhetoric scared are libbies off. Oh, well will bring them back for another round in a day or two.

You are no better than a moldy sock devouring toilet-bowl licking disfunctional buffoon who clobbers the puke snarfing snot gobbler and the wastrel nincompoop.

[Cappy]

If we believe our system/country to be perfect, which it seems we do although that's unlikely. Then we should feel that the only way to subject a prisoner to trial is under the auspices that they be treated like US citizen.
They were born human, and we cannot make any choice or judgement about that.

[andywend]

TBlues said:

That was an awful last 2 years of Bush

Without question, the last 2 years of Bush's presidency were worse than the first 6.

What happened in the final 2 years?

I'll tell you what happened, the democrats took over both houses of congress after the 2006 mid-term elections and our country went straight downhill after that and things have continued to get much, much worse now that the democrats control all 3 branches of the federal government.

President Bush was POWERLESS during the last 2 years of his administration with democrats controlling the entire congress.

Liberal left-wing lunatics will blame all that went wrong on Bush. However, the fact remains things only began going downhill AFTER the democrats took over congress.

Lyon, the LAST THING you should try to do is earn the respect of these left-wing lunatics.

President Bush was the furthest thing from a conservative and was really an extremely liberal republican. He spent his entire 8 years trying to appease democrats at the expense of his support base and look where it got him? The democrats tore him apart more than any president in history.

Ronald Reagan did the right thing and pretty much told his liberal opposition to go **** themselves and he left the oval office as one of the most popular presidents in U.S. history.

EVERY SINGLE TIME a criticism is levied against Obama, liberals try and change the subject saying how bad Bush was. They will continue to do this for the remainder of his administration.

Liberal democrats are very much like radical Islamic terrorists. Its pointless to try and appease either of these groups as they are both insane and can't be reasoned with. Just look at all the liberal democrats in this thread looking out and defending the rights of this Islamic MONSTER.

There's probably thousands of liberal democratic defense attorneys who would be willing to defend this guy pro-bono if they were given the chance.

[Hotdiggity11]

You are mad Eric Holder is going to seek the death penalty on these ****ers? Yeesh, you guys are never happy LOL.

[Hotdiggity11]

Military Court! Plain and simple. Anything less is a friggen embarrassment and an insult to the people of the United States, especially New Yorkers.

You need to brush up on your laws.


Bush already tried to set up a Military Commissions/Tribunal. It was ruled unconstitutional.


Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, 548 U.S. 557 (2006), is a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that military commissions set up by the Bush administration to try detainees at Guantanamo Bay lack "the power to proceed because its structures and procedures violate both the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the four Geneva Conventions signed in 1949."[1] Specifically, the ruling says that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions was violated.
The case considered whether the United States Congress may pass legislation preventing the Supreme Court from hearing the case of an accused combatant before his military commission takes place, whether the special military commissions that had been set up violated federal law (including the Uniform Code of Military Justice and treaty obligations), and whether courts can enforce the articles of the 1949 Geneva Convention.

[Hotdiggity11]

Ahhh, TB. Youa dmit he has been a disappointment. That's a bit of progress and I salute you for having the balls to admit such.

As for impeaching him, why let him continue taking the country down this death spiral course? He has proposed no solutions and merely deferred the issues to others and deflected blame. If the repubs do not take back congress (don't worry though as they will in a landslide) then America will be bankrupt and absolutely finished in 2 years. Your dollar will be the new peso.

Impeachment talk is retarded. It was when GWB was in office, it is now. Waste of time at that. Just because you are mad your candidate didn't win doesn't mean you have a cause for impeachment on a candidate you didn't want to win.

[Hotdiggity11]

Using this logic then why did we attack Germany in WWII since they never attacked our country?

If you are going to start threads like this try to debate instead of rambling without any meaning.

Germany directly declared war on us soon after we declared war on Japan for the Pearl Harbor attack. After that, we acknowledged our prior alliances with Great Britain, the USSR and the rest of Allies and moved in to protect them while driving the Germans back to Berlin.

[andywend]

Bush already tried to set up a Military Commissions/Tribunal. It was ruled unconstitutional.

I have no idea of the specifics of this particular case but I am going to go out on a limb saying it was a 5-4 decision with all the liberal justices voting it was unconstitutional with the 4 conservatives justices in favor of military commissions/tribunals.

[Hotdiggity11]

why has it taken so long for this trial to occur? is it possible for this guy to get a lawyer that will present his case?

also lmao at this guy being the 9/11 mastermind. the 9/11 masterminds wear suits and control governments. this guy would be a pawn at best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPeAJseWwWc

Of course he will get a lawyer. Money is money to people of that occupation. Doesn't matter, Mohammad's sentence will likely be the death penalty regardless.