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  • garlic pie
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    • 09-05-09
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    Obama Grants 9/11 Mastermind All The Judicial Rights Of A U.S. Citizen


    This morning, President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the admitted mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, would be brought to New York for a civilian trial.
    So, congratulations Americans, all of the constitutional protections normally afforded U.S. citizens have just been granted to a foreign, mass-murdering war criminal.


    It seems that, according to the increasingly out-of-touch Obama a foreign terrorist leader who murdered 3,000 Americans, deserves exactly the same judicial process as a college kid who steals a six-pack from 7 Eleven.


    That he has been granted a civilian trial means that, in Barack Obama’s legal opinion, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is currently innocent. He must be convicted by a jury of his peers. Of course, that begs the question: how many peers could a non-citizen terrorist leader, who attacked the United States, possibly have here?
    He is protected by the Miranda clause, so let’s hope the soldiers who captured him in 2003 read him his rights, and he’ll be protected by the chain of evidence, so they’d better have some proof other than his confession, which even the weakest New York defense attorney would claim was coerced.



    Make no mistake. A trial like this could take years, and will offer this man ample opportunity to rally his network of terrorists, communicate with them through his lawyer, mock his victims and their families, and possibly even achieve acquittal.
    Once again, Obama has completely ignored the will of the people who, according to polls, are overwhelmingly opposed to the Gitmo closure, and do not want foreign combatants like Mohammed brought to the U.S. for trial. More disturbing, however, is that from a legal standpoint, the President views Mohammed’s crimes no differently than he would any other crime committed in the United States.


    Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is not a citizen. He is not a uniformed member of a standing army and therefore not protected by the Geneva Convention. He is a war criminal who should have been convicted by a military tribunal, taken out back, and put down like an animal. Nuremberg should have been the template here, not the O.J. Simpson trial.


    Obviously, your President disagrees.





    7 fukking years of college down the draingl
  • buztah
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    • 03-23-07
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    #2
    Obama is fast becoming a huge joke. The man is gutless! That POS murderer/terrorist should face a swift execution. Instead, you will pay for his defence, thanks to Obama. Ironic, eh?
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    • daggerkobe
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      • 03-25-08
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      #3
      Better than giving the leader of al Qaeda, the real mastermind behind 9-11 & others attacks, a presidential pardon.

      "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - Dumbya, Sept 2001

      "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - Dumbya, March 2002
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      • pavyracer
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        • 04-12-07
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        #4
        Actually if he is executed without a trial it will do more harm. How are you going to prevent more of these douchebags from doing it again if you don't try them according to the legal system of a democratic country and show them how we are better than them? Also forces them to go to court everyday and be seen by millions which will prevent more douchebags in the future from doing this and the media will not say we just kill them without a trial which fuels their hatriot. The only reason everyone hates the Nazis now is because they were put to trial and convicted after WWII.
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        • garlic pie
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          #5
          Originally posted by daggerkobe
          Better than giving the leader of al Qaeda, the real mastermind behind 9-11 & others attacks, a presidential pardon.

          "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - Dumbya, Sept 2001

          "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - Dumbya, March 2002
          Bush isn't President anymore. What's Obama doing to get him that makes you so proud?gl
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          • tblues2005
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            #6
            Originally posted by daggerkobe
            Better than giving the leader of al Qaeda, the real mastermind behind 9-11 & others attacks, a presidential pardon.

            "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - Dumbya, Sept 2001

            "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - Dumbya, March 2002
            I know and these ones on the right talk about what Obama is doing. I say you have to be kidding me. We haven't caught the one that was the mastermind of this for the whole time that Bush was in office. Your right daggerkobe that it was basically a presidential pardon.
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            • Justin7
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              #7
              Bad guy or not, he *is* innocent until proven guilty.

              A lot of "spin" in this article, but even bad guys need to be proven guilty before they are judged. It might not be possible to get a fair trial.. I can't wait to see what they did to him while detained for who knows how many years.
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              • moses millsap
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                #8
                "baraq" obama is the biggest terrorist sympathizer out there; can't wait for him to unleash his jihad on the country
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                • garlic pie
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Justin7
                  Bad guy or not, he *is* innocent until proven guilty.

                  A lot of "spin" in this article, but even bad guys need to be proven guilty before they are judged. It might not be possible to get a fair trial.. I can't wait to see what they did to him while detained for who knows how many years.
                  Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is not a citizen. He is not a uniformed member of a standing army and therefore not protected by the Geneva Convention. He is a war criminal who should have been convicted by a military tribunal, taken out back, and put down like an animal. Nuremberg should have been the template here, not the O.J. Simpson trial.
                  <p><p>
                  It's really that simpleglgl
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                  • pavyracer
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                    #10
                    If Nurenberg was the template then who is going to try him? As you know during the WTC attacks citizens of dozens of countries died. Are you suggesting he should be tried by an international panel of judges from various countries? This would have been more complicated.
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                    • garlic pie
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                      If Nurenberg was the template then who is going to try him? As you know during the WTC attacks citizens of dozens of countries died. Are you suggesting he should be tried by an international panel of judges from various countries? This would have been more complicated.
                      Gobbledegook hand wringing. This country was attacked, our military has him, and disposes of him. Next case.gl
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                      • Boner_18
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                        #12
                        No problem with this. Justice for all.
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                        • pavyracer
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by garlic pie
                          Gobbledegook hand wringing. This country was attacked, our military has him, and disposes of him. Next case.gl
                          Using this logic then why did we attack Germany in WWII since they never attacked our country?

                          If you are going to start threads like this try to debate instead of rambling without any meaning.
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                          • bradthebloke
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                            • 07-26-09
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                            Actually if he is executed without a trial it will do more harm. How are you going to prevent more of these douchebags from doing it again if you don't try them according to the legal system of a democratic country and show them how we are better than them? Also forces them to go to court everyday and be seen by millions which will prevent more douchebags in the future from doing this and the media will not say we just kill them without a trial which fuels their hatriot. The only reason everyone hates the Nazis now is because they were put to trial and convicted after WWII.
                            but even if we do "show them how we are better than them", I feel that the world will just figured it was a rigged trial and thats the only reason he will be found guilty
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                            • Sam Odom
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                              When you are in a war (a true war) there are no rules , nice guys finish last

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                              • tblues2005
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Justin7
                                Bad guy or not, he *is* innocent until proven guilty.

                                A lot of "spin" in this article, but even bad guys need to be proven guilty before they are judged. It might not be possible to get a fair trial.. I can't wait to see what they did to him while detained for who knows how many years.
                                I agree Justin on what you are saying here. I think he does need a fair trial and not be detained for many years. Let's give this guy his day in court. Obama has it right here give the guy his day in court. I just don't understand what is wrong with these people on the right at all on this because they should feel the same way. I just don't get it to some of these people. If it was their party doing this they would agree with it. I call that a double standard.
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                                • DrStale
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                                  • garlic pie
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    Using this logic then why did we attack Germany in WWII since they never attacked our country?

                                    If you are going to start threads like this try to debate instead of rambling without any meaning.
                                    Germany declared war on the US in 1941, idiot.
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                                    • lyon804
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                                      #19
                                      Why can't the people on the left not see Obama's buddies, friends, supporter's are racist and terrorist. Why does this man not have any resemblance of a family? Why was he a member of Jerimiah Wright's church for many years. Like he didn't know what Wright stood for. Come on liberals, get your had out of your tail. The man is a SNAKE! One of his old friend's and supporter is William Ayers who is a terrorist and the founder of Acorn. Does this not bother the liberal. I am not saying George Bush was a good president. Facts are facts. He was a poor president, but this Obama and his liberal media has brainwashed this ignorant country. I do not believe they have even proved this man to be a natural born U.S. citizen. Obama, hates American's. All that god bless stuff is just garbage. This man is not a Christian.
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                                      • tblues2005
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                                        #20
                                        Dr Stale I know. Thanks for the links. That was really cool for you to that.
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                                        • lyon804
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by lyon804
                                          Why can't the people on the left not see Obama's buddies, friends, supporter's are racist and terrorist. Why does this man not have any resemblance of a family? Why was he a member of Jerimiah Wright's church for many years. Like he didn't know what Wright stood for. Come on liberals, get your had out of your tail. The man is a SNAKE! One of his old friend's and supporter is William Ayers who is a terrorist and the founder of Acorn. Does this not bother the liberal. I am not saying George Bush was a good president. Facts are facts. He was a poor president, but this Obama and his liberal media has brainwashed this ignorant country. I do not believe they have even proved this man to be a natural born U.S. citizen. Obama, hates American's. All that god bless stuff is just garbage. This man is not a Christian.
                                          It's amazing how many of the leftist come run to his defense everytime there is a negative release on him!! What has he done for you? What are you gaining by acting in this fashion? Are you people part of his civil army? The man is a joke of a president. We would be better off having a blue gum from the hood running this country than a "well spoken, articulate" liar,racist,terrosrist,socialist,etc....
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                                          • Shafted69
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                            Better than giving the leader of al Qaeda, the real mastermind behind 9-11 & others attacks, a presidential pardon.

                                            "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - Dumbya, Sept 2001

                                            "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - Dumbya, March 2002

                                            Instead of finishing the job in Afganistan, the greedy whore diverts our military into a fabricated war in IRAQ and awards tons of no bid contracts to the military industralplex, which of course were his donors & main cheerleaders leading up to the IRAQ war, in a prolonged clusterphuck. Endless wars for endless profits.
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                                            • lyon804
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                                              #23
                                              I want some liberals to answer my questions.Give me your angle because frankly I don't get it.
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                                              • daggerkobe
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by tblues2005
                                                I know and these ones on the right talk about what Obama is doing. I say you have to be kidding me. We haven't caught the one that was the mastermind of this for the whole time that Bush was in office. Your right daggerkobe that it was basically a presidential pardon.

                                                It would be like the chief of police saying "We will not rest until Ted Bundy is captured and brought to justice." then when they have him cornered, saying "I dont care about Ted Bundy, who cares if he murdered dozens of young girls, he is not my top priority." and letting him get away, never to be seen again.

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                                                • garlic pie
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                                                  #25


                                                  Toga! Toga! Toga!
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                                                  • tblues2005
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                                                    #26
                                                    lyon you have room to talk with what we had for 8 years before he got in office? Give me a break. Obama took over with a huge mess to deal with. You talk about a joke President Bush was the joke. At least we don't have someone in office that has the brain of a fifth grader. I am not a complete leftist but I do see changes for the better and changes that are not for the better.
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                                                    • tblues2005
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                                      It would be like the chief of police saying "We will not rest until Ted Bundy is captured and brought to justice." then when they have him cornered, saying "I dont care about Ted Bundy, who cares if he murdered dozens of young girls, he is not my top priority." and letting him get away, never to be seen again.

                                                      Good point there daggerkobe. It is like doing that same thing. I cannot believe some of these ones on the right are saying these things about Obama. Where were they when Bush was running up our debt and running this country into the ground. I did not hear a thing from them then. If lyon and those was saying things like this about Bush it would be different but it looks like that has not been the case. Lyon tell me where were you when Bush was running our country into the ground?
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                                                      • lyon804
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by tblues2005
                                                        lyon you have room to talk with what we had for 8 years before he got in office? Give me a break. Obama took over with a huge mess to deal with. You talk about a joke President Bush was the joke. At least we don't have someone in office that has the brain of a fifth grader. I am not a complete leftist but I do see changes for the better and changes that are not for the better.
                                                        HEY Buddie! I give you Bush was a awful President. I am a proud conservative! Above in my post I said he, BUSH was a poor president. I am not running from that. Enough said. You are a typical liberal. You didn't answer my question. What is Obama doing that is so great. Don't give me that BS he was left with GW mess. We all know that, but he is doing plenty of fukked up stuff that had nothing to do with the past president. Like I say to all you librerals out there... Get your head out of your tail... Give me some positive things this president has done. What do you people get from supporting this president??
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                                                        • lyon804
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by tblues2005
                                                          Good point there daggerkobe. It is like doing that same thing. I cannot believe some of these ones on the right are saying these things about Obama. Where were they when Bush was running up our debt and running this country into the ground. I did not hear a thing from them then. If lyon and those was saying things like this about Bush it would be different but it looks like that has not been the case. Lyon tell me where were you when Bush was running our country into the ground?
                                                          Again genius. I agree BUSH was a awful president!!!!!!! Enough said. The difference between a conservative and a liberal is this.... I am smart enough, man enough to admit Bush was awful, but why won't the liberal admit this OBAMA is a fukking joke bag,, a disgrace to this country. I want to here the positive you all have for me. What good has he done?
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                                                          • lyon804
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by lyon804
                                                            HEY Buddie! I give you Bush was a awful President. I am a proud conservative! Above in my post I said he, BUSH was a poor president. I am not running from that. Enough said. You are a typical liberal. You didn't answer my question. What is Obama doing that is so great. Don't give me that BS he was left with GW mess. We all know that, but he is doing plenty of fukked up stuff that had nothing to do with the past president. Like I say to all you librerals out there... Get your head out of your tail... Give me some positive things this president has done. What do you people get from supporting this president??

                                                            You ask where was I when Bush was fukking the country. I'll tell you. Not on SBR. I'll be honest with you.. I voted for Bush the first term, but after seeing the mistake I did not vote him again, but I did not or will not vote for a liberal democrat. I chose not to vote
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                                                            • Sam Odom
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                                                              #31
                                                              This guy Obama has the thinnest resume ever for a sitting President. White Guilt & 8yrs of Bush got him elected.
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                                                              • lyon804
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                                                                #32
                                                                Read my above post liberals and get back with me...............I guess you don't ahve anything to say........... Other than Bush was awful. Again, I give you that. Your right. My question is what had OBAMA done that is good. Don't give me the mess Bush left. He has done plenty of stupid shit on his own that didn't include the past presidency.
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                                                                • lyon804
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  The liberal is awful quite.... Wait... Wait. I sense DAGGERKOBE getting ready to send us all some links.
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                                                                  • garlic pie
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by lyon804
                                                                    Again genius. I agree BUSH was a awful president!!!!!!! Enough said. The difference between a conservative and a liberal is this.... I am smart enough, man enough to admit Bush was awful, but why won't the liberal admit this OBAMA is a fukking joke bag,, a disgrace to this country. I want to here the positive you all have for me. What good has he done?
                                                                    Just get used to it. Everything this Marxist moolie screws up for the next 4 years they'll continue to blame on Bush.

                                                                    They don't care that Obama lied when he spoke of transparency, of not appointing lobbyists, of making Afghanistan a priority, etc. They don't care that he has a cabinet filled with tax cheats and other criminals. They don't care he has already taken more golf outings than Bush did his entire Presidency. They don't care that he uses taxpayer money to take his wife out on date nights and traveling to leno to make fun of the special Olympics.

                                                                    He's their effin man love and they all dream of being Larry Sinclair.glgl
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                                                                    • goldengoat
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      why has it taken so long for this trial to occur? is it possible for this guy to get a lawyer that will present his case?

                                                                      also lmao at this guy being the 9/11 mastermind. the 9/11 masterminds wear suits and control governments. this guy would be a pawn at best.

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