Originally posted by VegasDave
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Exactly analyzing bad beats all depends on how you look at em, you called a bet preflop and 2 outed him he called a bet on the flop and 2 outed u, sounds pretty fair to me, u were just the last one to get 2 outed so u lostComment -
I understand what he means Vegas Dave. I'm pretty sure he would have bet it the same way he did with the pocket Q's with a flop of 5-8-5, however I'm pretty sure he would have called my all in bet after the turn if say a 10 came or a j. In any case I'm sticking to live games because I have seen this one too many times online.Comment -
I'm suprised the board didn't read 5-8-5-Q-8. I've seen plenty of hands go this way too.Comment -
Love this pictureOriginally posted by MrXPokerStars dealer.
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When same thing happens in live games are u going to quit poker bc no ones layin down pocket queens on a flop of 855 for 6 bucksOriginally posted by BigmikesmComment -
Welcome to poker???? I've been playing for years bud. Next bash upon arrival in Vegas, I'll play you NL hold em heads up and you'll be broke by the meet and greet. And selling your SBR gifts by Sunday.Originally posted by Bread
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pretty standard
the c/r on the turn by villain screams QQ imo (obv easy to say results oriented and you have to play it how you did but think...
overpair fires turn after cbetting flop... a 5 that would cbet the flop would fire almost all turns. What can he have that he would be check raising with? I can't think of anything... he could c/r flop with a 5, and then c/r turn with a 5 but betting flop/check raising turn shows extreme strength
obv my observation is ruined by the fact that the hand shows the results and like I said I'd still probably call down with 88 and take the tough break but how the guy played the hand screams I have the nutsComment -
Fair enough, pokerstars was always notoriously bad to me too.Originally posted by Bigmikesm
As far as calling an all in, depends on how good of a player he was. When the Q hit, checking was the obvious decision, and you being on a monster too obviously meant he was doubling up.
Assuming he's a good player, let's say that anything other than an A K or 8 hits. He has to assume that the card that fell didn't help you, so he figures out where he is with a bet of say $10-15. Honestly, if at that point you re-raise him all in ($81.80 more), I think it's a VERY easy fold for a good player. At that point he has to put you on a 5, 88, AA, or KK. What else would you be pushing with?Comment -
Yep, there seems to be a lot of bad beats going on recently on Pokerstars ....Comment -
Alot of cheating going on online too. Hard to cheat in a live game. Not just talking about this one hand. I know for a fact there are many players sitting at a 6 handed table as we speak, talking on the phone with one another telling each others hand.Originally posted by bettilimbroke999Comment -
would he c/r you though?Originally posted by Bigmikesm
odds are he would bet/call a shoveComment -
is this thread a joke?
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FCK, just noticed his name was Its888.Originally posted by stats13
It was a sign.Comment -
no disrespect to anyone.. but this is NOT a bad beat.. this thread is useless..Originally posted by poker_dummy101 is this thread a joke?
and one more thing.. if you're a losing player and you dont want to be picked on for the fact.. you shouldnt post your poker account names cause people will look up your stats and tell you every single thing youve done pokerwise in your life..
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look it up bud. I'm not embarrased of my play online. I'm just pointing out that you see this way more online than live. you see more hands online will be your answer. Keep playing online, I'm done, however I'm curious how many people are up more than down while playing online?????Originally posted by EnogsiwonComment -
im not looking anything up.. just telling you..
and all the money should be in on the flop anyways...Comment -
That was my pointOriginally posted by EnogsiwonComment -
If your talking about Sharkscope.com to see player stats, I wouldn't take anything from there as accurate, because they have INACCURATE profit/loss stats.Comment -
Actually, QQ would have won if it went 5 8 5 5 5. That would have been pretty ugly and deserving of a thread.Originally posted by BigmikesmComment -
You're not embarassed of a -28.90 BB/100? Yes it is just over 2300 hands but stillOriginally posted by Bigmikesm
And you've lost 9 out of your last 10 HUSNGs. I would hate to go back further. Quit now and give it to your kids or donate itComment -
agree with you...Originally posted by poker_dummy101
mike,
they have way better sites now.. people can tell everything..every hand you play..what time you played.. what you won or lost to the cent.. just looking out ..
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And seeing how the hand was apparently sent to your email, it leads me to believe you dont use PT or HEM.Comment -
I thought this was a useless thread...seems you've made a use out of itOriginally posted by poker_dummy101You're not embarassed of a -28.90 BB/100? Yes it is just over 2300 hands but still
And you've lost 9 out of your last 10 HUSNGs. I would hate to go back further. Quit now and give it to your kids or donate it
Good work!Comment -
Well I wasnt going to, but I was just showing you that you need coaching, should play smaller limits, quit playing, or get ready to keep losing.Originally posted by BigmikesmI thought this was a useless thread...seems you've made a use out of it
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thanks bud, I'm more of your casual player who plays one or two days a month and never looked into other player stats. Didn't know there were sites out there that advanced. I'll keep it in mind if I ever make it to the 5/10 NL or greater games.Originally posted by Enogsiwonagree with you...
mike,
they have way better sites now.. people can tell everything..every hand you play..what time you played.. what you won or lost to the cent.. just looking out ..Comment -
Originally posted by BigmikesmWelcome to poker???? I've been playing for years bud. Next bash upon arrival in Vegas, I'll play you NL hold em heads up and you'll be broke by the meet and greet. And selling your SBR gifts by Sunday.
Calm down World's Greatest Poker Player.
Jeezus where do these guys come from?
"I LOST ON THE RIVER! I'M GONNA START A THREAD ABOUT IT!"
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Originally posted by LVHerbie nice one 
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Glad you saw this comment Bread. You're alright in my book.Originally posted by BreadCalm down World's Greatest Poker Player.
Jeezus where do these guys come from?
"I LOST ON THE RIVER! I'M GONNA START A THREAD ABOUT IT!"
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Let's hug it out bitch.Comment -
If you place enough hands you will eventually see it all... Years ago I was playing 1/2 NL hold 'em downtown in Las Vegas and a new dealer just sat down, (probably just got back from snorting or smoking something) missed a player, and misdealed.. I look down to see he was kind enough to misdeal me aces... He reshuffles and deals again and misses the the same damn player... Flipped over my cards again and I was misdealt aces again...
Obviously I would never have had either hand if he dealt the table right but still what are the odds that you are going to get misdealt aces two hands in a row... (Disregarding, of course, that is was downtown which makes the back-to-back misdeals significantly higher).... As it was live it was clearly and obviously rigged...
On the other hand it seems like every time you see the "online poker is rigged!!!!" threads it from some guy who either A) hasn't played enough hands to even be able to tell what his or her results should be or B) is a big loser at online poker (I have no clue about you personally but both wouldn't surprise me as being likely)... Online poker is much harder then live as the good players can multitable, you don't have to get off your ass and go somewhere to play, and people can sit down anywhere in the world (many places that making 1 bb/100 hands an hour over a couple tables of .5/1 is good wages) and there are many other reasons why people think they get more bad beats then everyone else but the truth is that the games have gotten significantly worse (especially on the top couple of sites) in the last couple years and most people way over estimate their own abilities and they don't understand variance... I've heard it suggested, as a general rule, that you add a zero to games online to compare them to live (i.e. .5/1 plays like 5/10 live) There are also many good reasons why it is commonly recommended (if you a winning player anyhow) that you should maintain AT LEAST 25 buyins for cash, 100 for sngs, and 200 for multi-tables tourneys at your current level to avoid going broke... Obviously the higher you go up (add your edge becomes even less and variance increases) these requirements will also go up significantly...
The simple truth is that if you think online poker is rigged find another hobby because no one is forcing you to donate your money... Although, if denying the truth about your own abilities makes you gamble less in a game that you are most likely are -EV, then you should probably should just keep believing...Comment -
And, oh BTW, if you choose to play your recreational poker at pokerstars in full ring cash games then game selection is another skill that you probably lack as well...Comment -
Just deposited tonight and in 10 minutes there were 3 full house over full house show downs and the winning hand rivered all 3 times. I was on the wrong end of 2 of them.
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Funny...that stuff usually happens when I have a pending cash outOriginally posted by Poker_BeastJust deposited tonight and in 10 minutes there were 3 full house over full house show downs and the winning hand rivered all 3 times. I was on the wrong end of 2 of them.
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It's funny how you seem to have all the answers for online poker and are a big advocate for it. Good for you. KEEP PLAYING. You've must have made thousands playing it and that's great. I haven't. I know that it isn't rigged. There is way too much money at stake for these companies to rig it for some small time players such as myself. I'M DONE WITH IT.Originally posted by LVHerbieIf you place enough hands you will eventually see it all... Years ago I was playing 1/2 NL hold 'em downtown in Las Vegas and a new dealer just sat down, (probably just got back from snorting or smoking something) missed a player, and misdealed.. I look down to see he was kind enough to misdeal me aces... He reshuffles and deals again and misses the the same damn player... Flipped over my cards again and I was misdealt aces again... Obviously I would never have had either hand if he dealt the table right but still what are the odds that you are going to get misdealt aces two hands in a row... (Disregarding, of course, that is was downtown which makes the back-to-back misdeals significantly higher).... As it was live it was clearly and obviously rigged...
On the other hand it seems like every time you see the "online poker is rigged!!!!" threads it from some guy who either A) hasn't played enough hands to even be able to tell what his or her results should be or B) is a big loser at online poker (I have no clue about you personally but both wouldn't surprise me as being likely)... Online poker is much harder then live as the good players can multitable, you don't have to get off your ass and go somewhere to play, and people can sit down anywhere in the world (many places that making 1 bb/100 hands an hour over a couple tables of .5/1 is good wages) and there are many other reasons why people think they get more bad beats then everyone else but the truth is that the games have gotten significantly worse (especially on the top couple of sites) in the last couple years and most people way over estimate their own abilities and they don't understand variance... I've heard it suggested, as a general rule, that you add a zero to games online to compare them to live (i.e. .5/1 plays like 5/10 live) There are also many good reasons why it is commonly recommended (if you a winning player anyhow) that you should maintain AT LEAST 25 buyins for cash, 100 for sngs, and 200 for multi-tables tourneys at your current level to avoid going broke... Obviously the higher you go up (add your edge becomes even less and variance increases) these requirements will also go up significantly...
The simple truth is that if you think online poker is rigged find another hobby because no one is forcing you to donate your money... Although, if denying the truth about your own abilities makes you gamble less in a game that you are most likely are -EV, then you should probably should just keep believing...Comment -
It's crazy how that happens. For me I always catch a string of bad luck after my thousand dollar or more withdrawal.Originally posted by daneblazerComment
