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  • Dad
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-26-08
    • 23245

    #1
    Best QB ever?
    PEter King is releasing a book soon based on his SI columns.
    in it he lists the 100 best NFL players

    the best 12 QBs listed are:
    1. Otto Graham. Easy. Ten seasons, seven championships, seven passing titles.

    2. Sammy Baugh. Had the best season of any player ever in 1943. Led the NFL in passing, punting and, as one of the best safeties in football, in interceptions.

    3. Joe Montana. Made everyone copy Walsh's high-tech offense, and won four titles in a decade.

    4. Johnny Unitas. First great modern quarterback, and great in the clutch. He'd be higher if he won more than one title in his last 14 seasons.

    5. Brett Favre. Most durable, most productive quarterback of all time. Marred by only one title.

    6. Peyton Manning. Could break every record if Favre ever retires. Needs another championship or two to climb the list.

    7. John Elway. Two titles, though they came late, capped the career of a Unitas-type with legs.

    8. Dan Marino. Prototype dropback quarterback who, arguably, was the model for the pocket quarterback of the last 40 years.

    9. Roger Staubach. Might be the best player/athlete/leader of a quarterback ever, and he edges Steve Young in my book with a second title and three more title-game appearances.

    10. Tom Brady. Three Super Bowl wins by age 27, and a fourth appearance at 30.

    11. Bart Starr. All he did was win -- five NFL titles, including the first two Super Bowl titles, both ending with him being MVP.

    12. Terry Bradshaw. Rebounded from a horrible start to his career to lead the Steelers to four Super Bowls in six years.



    Agree? disagree? who are your best 12 QBs ever?
  • element1286
    Restricted User
    • 02-25-08
    • 3370

    #2
    Brett Farve is too high.
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    • Dad
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-26-08
      • 23245

      #3
      Originally posted by element1286
      Brett Farve is too high.
      That was a couple of seasons ago. He's off the pain pills now.
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      • DwightShrute
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-17-09
        • 103684

        #4
        Marino was the best I have ever seen play QB
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        • thejrichshow85
          Restricted User
          • 06-15-08
          • 3342

          #5
          1. Brett Favre. Most durable, most productive quarterback of all time. Marred by only one title.
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          • themajormt
            SBR MVP
            • 07-30-08
            • 3964

            #6
            Jim Kelly isnt thrown in here?
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            • Dad
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-26-08
              • 23245

              #7
              1. Montana
              2. Johnny U (yep , I'm old)
              3. Bradshaw
              4- thru the rest
              Young
              Marino
              Favre
              Brady
              Manning (peyton)
              Staubach

              NFW am I putting Elway on the list
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              • DwightShrute
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-17-09
                • 103684

                #8
                Originally posted by themajormt
                Jim Kelly isnt thrown in here?
                maybe one of the most under rated QB's all time. His name is rarely mentioned when discussing greatest QB's.

                I am with you however. He would make my top 10
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                • ABEHONEST
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-27-09
                  • 9470

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dad
                  PEter King is releasing a book soon based on his SI columns. in it he lists the 100 best NFL players the best 12 QBs listed are: 1. Otto Graham. Easy. Ten seasons, seven championships, seven passing titles. 2. Sammy Baugh. Had the best season of any player ever in 1943. Led the NFL in passing, punting and, as one of the best safeties in football, in interceptions. 3. Joe Montana. Made everyone copy Walsh's high-tech offense, and won four titles in a decade. 4. Johnny Unitas. First great modern quarterback, and great in the clutch. He'd be higher if he won more than one title in his last 14 seasons. 5. Brett Favre. Most durable, most productive quarterback of all time. Marred by only one title. 6. Peyton Manning. Could break every record if Favre ever retires. Needs another championship or two to climb the list. 7. John Elway. Two titles, though they came late, capped the career of a Unitas-type with legs. 8. Dan Marino. Prototype dropback quarterback who, arguably, was the model for the pocket quarterback of the last 40 years. 9. Roger Staubach. Might be the best player/athlete/leader of a quarterback ever, and he edges Steve Young in my book with a second title and three more title-game appearances. 10. Tom Brady. Three Super Bowl wins by age 27, and a fourth appearance at 30. 11. Bart Starr. All he did was win -- five NFL titles, including the first two Super Bowl titles, both ending with him being MVP. 12. Terry Bradshaw. Rebounded from a horrible start to his career to lead the Steelers to four Super Bowls in six years. Agree? disagree? who are your best 12 QBs ever?
                  Looks like a JOKE to me !
                  Oh,were they serious...and I guess George MIken is the BEST Pro Basketball player ever, also ?
                  Well ,at least better than M.Jordan !
                  I can see Miken blocking most of Jordan's shots,today ?
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                  • philswin
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-18-07
                    • 1279

                    #10
                    I would switch Favre and Brady. The top 2 way before my time, cant argue with the reasoning though. If Brees keeps doing what he is doing could be on that list in 5 -6 years
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                    • SBR Lou
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-02-07
                      • 37863

                      #11
                      Originally posted by philswin
                      If Brees keeps doing what he is doing could be on that list in 5 -6 years
                      I don't think so. He may be a fan favorite of anyone that plays fantasy football, but I think the quality of the average young NFL quarterback is starting to improve, particularly ones that play pro style offenses in college, anyone can put up exceptional stats with a good offensive line and good array of offensive weapons.

                      Brees needs to get some big wins under his belt and snatch a ring or two for him to be in the conversation for "best" QB's of all time. Way too premature to even consider him.
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                      • Willie Bee
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-14-06
                        • 15726

                        #12
                        Dad, I've always had Baugh high up on my list and agree that Staubach should be above Brady and Bradshaw (would also have him ahead of Favre).
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                        • philswin
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-18-07
                          • 1279

                          #13
                          That why I said in 5 -6 years, Brees COULD get there. He has surpassed Brady and Manning as the best QB in the NFL at the current time.
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                          • paco
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-07-09
                            • 62873

                            #14
                            Where is Joey Harrington?
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                            • philswin
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-18-07
                              • 1279

                              #15
                              Right above Heath Shuler and below Ryan Leaf
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                              • paco
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-07-09
                                • 62873

                                #16
                                Tim Couch could easily be #4
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                                • DwightShrute
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-17-09
                                  • 103684

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by paco
                                  Where is Joey Harrington?
                                  Harrington is a golfer. Just won the British Open!
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                                  • CashMoney
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-07-08
                                    • 1982

                                    #18
                                    That's like asking who is the best baseball player of all time? It depends on the time each QB played in. Football has changed drastically over the years. I can only speak about the QB's I actually watched...... With that being the case I'll put my $$$ on Elway............
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                                    • kmarinouofm
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-26-09
                                      • 8437

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                      Marino was the best I have ever seen play QB

                                      I have to agree with this statement.. granted i grew up in miami and share the same last name..

                                      But this guy was top 10 both on the field and off.. Dan Marino was and still is to this day a class act and was the face of that franchise and probably still is..

                                      He found weakness and exposed it.. If Miami could have only built a decent team around him..he would have been the greatest.. but no running game for so many years.. and never once did he have a true #1 receiver... it's a miracle he had the numbers season in and season out... and kept this team in the playoffs year in year out..
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                                      • ucbearcats1027
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 903

                                        #20
                                        brett farve will go to the superbowl this year!
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                                        • CashMoney
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-07-08
                                          • 1982

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ucbearcats1027
                                          brett farve will go to the superbowl this year!
                                          So will Tony Romo..... Favre & Romo can watch it together....they'll have great seats.
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                                          • ucbearcats1027
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 903

                                            #22
                                            hahaha want to place a wager on this?
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                                            • CashMoney
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-07-08
                                              • 1982

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ucbearcats1027
                                              hahaha want to place a wager on this?

                                              Easy $$$$ but is dumb to place forum wagers anyway. I will win and you will stiff...... Let's call it a friendly wager
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                                              • ABEHONEST
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-27-09
                                                • 9470

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                                                I have to agree with this statement.. granted i grew up in miami and share the same last name.. But this guy was top 10 both on the field and off.. Dan Marino was and still is to this day a class act and was the face of that franchise and probably still is.. He found weakness and exposed it.. If Miami could have only built a decent team around him..he would have been the greatest.. but no running game for so many years.. and never once did he have a true #1 receiver... it's a miracle he had the numbers season in and season out... and kept this team in the playoffs year in year out..
                                                Wow,you mean face of a "losing" franchise !
                                                Stick someone's face off of the ONLY undefeated Pro Football Team...EVER , as the Face of a winning Franchise ! Hello !
                                                How about Czonka or Greise,or... ?
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                                                • ucbearcats1027
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 903

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by CashMoney
                                                  Easy $$$$ but is dumb to place forum wagers anyway. I will win and you will stiff...... Let's call it a friendly wager

                                                  i means lets wager sbrpoints man
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                                                  • CashMoney
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-07-08
                                                    • 1982

                                                    #26
                                                    All for it.....I'll glady wager 50 points on Favre not representing MN in the SB. MN will not be in the SB. Might as well pay me my 50 now.
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                                                    • stats13
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-29-09
                                                      • 1687

                                                      #27
                                                      how do you not put steve young on the list of top 10
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                                                      • MLM50
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 12-27-08
                                                        • 30

                                                        #28
                                                        I bet a lot of NFL in the late '70's and early '80's. I don't mess with it now much at all, but I never lost on a Pittsburgh game. If they were playing a lousy team giving 3 points, I bet against them. If they were playing a good team giving 20, I took Pittsburgh. I remember a few pushes, but I really don't remember losing. Bradshaw could work a line like a brain surgeon. He's MY favorite all time.
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                                                        • element1286
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 02-25-08
                                                          • 3370

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by philswin
                                                          That why I said in 5 -6 years, Brees COULD get there. He has surpassed Brady and Manning as the best QB in the NFL at the current time.
                                                          Get back to me when he gets even remotely close to winning anything.
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                                                          • element1286
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 02-25-08
                                                            • 3370

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by stats13
                                                            how do you not put steve young on the list of top 10
                                                            His prime was kind of short, but I wouldn't have a huge problem with him on the list.
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                                                            • Chi_archie
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-22-08
                                                              • 63172

                                                              #31
                                                              I'd like to see a top ten list of qb's from each state..... I think Pa would win by a mile
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                                                              • philswin
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-18-07
                                                                • 1279

                                                                #32
                                                                in PA - All timers - Montana, Marino, Kelly, Unitas, Namath
                                                                An MVP in Rich Gannon
                                                                And young potentials - in Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco,
                                                                and other solid QBs like Marc Bulger, Matt Schaub

                                                                I am sure I am missing many
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                                                                • GiveMeaBJ
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-08-09
                                                                  • 8449

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I have to say Dan Marino is the best I have seen. You can say all you want about him not winning but you put him on another solid team and he wins his fair share of titles.
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                                                                  • paco
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 05-07-09
                                                                    • 62873

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Vick most entertaining QB to Watch
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                                                                    • twentyonekid
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 08-09-09
                                                                      • 883

                                                                      #35
                                                                      johnny unitas the best for me
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