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  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #36
    Originally posted by Zelda
    Matchbook wasn´t that good for NBA last season, i´d take Pinny if i had to pick between the 2 for baskets..

    For mlb they are prolly the best, but doesn´t mean you can always get the best line on both sides of a game at Matchbook...some dickhead will block with 20k or whatever on the favorite, making it impossible to ever get a decent price on the dog.
    For MLB dogs you need other outs..

    I would seriously attempt to try and become a dickhead if at all possible.........(wink).

    FH
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    • LasVegasInsider
      SBR Rookie
      • 08-09-09
      • 18

      #37
      matchbook is just one tool in a gamblers tool pouch
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #38
        Originally posted by LasVegasInsider
        matchbook is just one tool in a gamblers tool pouch
        Very true, but it takes up the most room and is the heaviest and most often tool used.


        -FH-
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        • Doug
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-10-05
          • 6324

          #39
          Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
          take a look at the difference here when you make an offer rather than accepting an offer.


          line is -185/+184.. in reality, this line is -188/+181 if you accept the -185..

          however...

          if you make an offer of -184 and it gets matched, you now have -184 instead of -188 (plus 0.2% for you)

          talk about a big swing, huh? why would anyone now bet the -188 whereas when you make an offer of 1 cent better, you get less than -184 instead..

          the swing at matchy is a joke. they should work on this to not make it that big a difference. maybe keep it at 0.6% like baseball.. fukkin matchy, i hate them now.. those greedy bastards..
          I think you are wrong, Nicky !

          -185/+184 is the line, say non-MLB, so we are using 1% commission.

          You say -188/ +181 if accepting.

          I get -186.8/ +183 or 3.8 cents, not 7 cents. Commission is on the lower amount.

          You take a +184, 100 to win 184, they take a dollar if you win, that is clearly +183, not +181
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          • MonkeyF0cker
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-12-07
            • 12144

            #40
            Probably should have run the numbers myself...
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            • Ganchrow
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-28-05
              • 5011

              #41
              Originally posted by Doug
              I think you are wrong, Nicky !

              -185/+184 is the line, say non-MLB, so we are using 1% commission.

              You say -188/ +181 if accepting.

              I get -186.8/ +183 or 3.8 cents, not 7 cents. Commission is on the lower amount.

              You take a +184, 100 to win 184, they take a dollar if you win, that is clearly +183, not +181
              At 1% commission:

              -185 => -187.88
              +184 => +181.19

              Market width of ~6.69¢, theoretical hold of ~0.820%.

              See Simple Matchbook Commission Calculator or the MB2US()/MB2DEC() functions of my http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicappe...tml#post256487.
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              • MonkeyF0cker
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-12-07
                • 12144

                #42
                Ganch,

                I believe that you'll need to modify your calculator. The 1% commission for any positive odds is now on the risk amount rather than the win amount.
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                • Nicky Santoro
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-08-08
                  • 16103

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Doug
                  I think you are wrong, Nicky !

                  -185/+184 is the line, say non-MLB, so we are using 1% commission.

                  You say -188/ +181 if accepting.

                  I get -186.8/ +183 or 3.8 cents, not 7 cents. Commission is on the lower amount.

                  You take a +184, 100 to win 184, they take a dollar if you win, that is clearly +183, not +181
                  there you have it, douglas, i am right again.. dougy boy, just read ganch's post and you'll see i was right........................ as usual

                  it is indeed a 7 cent crappy line..
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40179

                    #44
                    TRIVIA/QUESTION/INQUIRY.........


                    You ACCEPT an offer at MB at +106 betting 100 to win 106.

                    In reality, what price are you really obtaining considering you have to pay 0.6% commision on the RISKED money, WIN or LOSE????

                    GO, but take your time,
                    -FH-


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                    • MonkeyF0cker
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-12-07
                      • 12144

                      #45
                      Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                      Ganch,

                      I believe that you'll need to modify your calculator. The 1% commission for any positive odds is now on the risk amount rather than the win amount.
                      Nevermind. I guess you did already.
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                      • onthewhat
                        Restricted User
                        • 05-14-08
                        • 15411

                        #46
                        LOL!!!

                        Nicky, before Monkey edited his post, he called you an idiot for being wrong.

                        Nicky you showed that fuk who was right for the 1,000th time...Monkey said Doug was right and Nicky was wrong...
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                        • MonkeyF0cker
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 06-12-07
                          • 12144

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                          there you have it, douglas, i am right again.. dougy boy, just read ganch's post and you'll see i was right........................ as usual

                          it is indeed a 7 cent crappy line..
                          Show me a book that has 7 cent lines ( or better) on markets with odds longer than 180, please...
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                          • MonkeyF0cker
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-12-07
                            • 12144

                            #48
                            Originally posted by onthewhat
                            LOL!!!

                            Nicky, before Monkey edited his post, he called you an idiot for being wrong.

                            Nicky you showed that fuk who was right for the 1,000th time...Monkey said Doug was right and Nicky was wrong...
                            Posting from my iPhone at a sportsbook and can't run the numbers myself. Just assumed he was wrong as usual. I'm man enough to admit mistakes unlike you bozos though.
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                            • Fishhead
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-11-05
                              • 40179

                              #49
                              Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                              Posting from my iPhone at a sportsbook and can't run the numbers myself. Just assumed he was wrong as usual. I'm man enough to admit mistakes unlike you bozos though.




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                              • Nicky Santoro
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 04-08-08
                                • 16103

                                #50
                                onner, it don't surprise me that he edited his stuff after he was wrong..this kid has no clue about gambling but likes to pretend he's as smart as me.. he will nver be in this lifetime.. funny how he always comes into everyone of my threads and calls me a moron, just to make himself feel better.. onner, he tries but he cant compete against me.

                                i've forgotten more about gambling than he'll ever know.
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                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-12-07
                                  • 12144

                                  #51
                                  How about a standardized IQ challenge for $5k, Nicky?
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                                  • onthewhat
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 05-14-08
                                    • 15411

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                    onner, it don't surprise me that he edited his stuff after he was wrong..this kid has no clue about gambling but likes to pretend he's as smart as me.. he will nver be in this lifetime.. funny how he always comes into everyone of my threads and calls me a moron, just to make himself feel better.. onner, he tries but he cant compete against me.

                                    i've forgotten more about gambling than he'll ever know.
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                                    • Fishhead
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-11-05
                                      • 40179

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                      Posting from my iPhone at a sportsbook and can't run the numbers myself. Just assumed he was wrong as usual. I'm man enough to admit mistakes unlike you bozos though.
                                      Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                      How about a standardized IQ challenge for $5k, Nicky?

                                      What does IQ have to do with gambling knowledge???
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                                      • Fishhead
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-11-05
                                        • 40179

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Fishhead
                                        TRIVIA/QUESTION/INQUIRY.........


                                        You ACCEPT an offer at MB at +106 betting 100 to win 106.

                                        In reality, what price are you really obtaining considering you have to pay 0.6% commision on the RISKED money, WIN or LOSE????

                                        GO, but take your time,
                                        -FH-


                                        I did state to take your time, but it has been long enough...........don't let nothing but fear hold you back.

                                        I expect answers from Monkey and Nicky on this one.

                                        FH
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                                        • Nicky Santoro
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 04-08-08
                                          • 16103

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                          How about a standardized IQ challenge for $5k, Nicky?
                                          no..

                                          i never said you were dumb.. you are a smart guy in everyday life probably. i bet way more than me too..

                                          but when it comes to gambling, pls butt out and leave the gambling talk to us guys who know a thing or two about it..you are not as sharp in gambling as you think you are..


                                          and btw, you'd put up 5k for this, but not for a contest vs me? lol
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                                          • MonkeyF0cker
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-12-07
                                            • 12144

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                            but likes to pretend he's as smart as me..
                                            This part, genius. Obviously, I'd extend it to you as well but I doubt you can dig through enough dumpsters in time...
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                                            • Leverage
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 07-30-09
                                              • 253

                                              #57
                                              He isn't talking intellect...

                                              He's talking gambling...
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                                              • Nicky Santoro
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 04-08-08
                                                • 16103

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                This part, genius. Obviously, I'd extend it to you as well but I doubt you can dig through enough dumpsters in time...
                                                u talking to me, or fishhead?

                                                you must have us mixed up..
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                                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 06-12-07
                                                  • 12144

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                  no..

                                                  i never said you were dumb.. you are a smart guy in everyday life probably. i bet way more than me too..

                                                  but when it comes to gambling, pls butt out and leave the gambling talk to us guys who know a thing or two about it..you are not as sharp in gambling as you think you are..


                                                  and btw, you'd put up 5k for this, but not for a contest vs me? lol
                                                  Please. Just like the entire point of this whole thread where you actually thought MB was increasing commissions. Moron.
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                                                  • Fishhead
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-11-05
                                                    • 40179

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                    This part, genius. Obviously, I'd extend it to you as well but I doubt you can dig through enough dumpsters in time...
                                                    As Nicky stated, we both would probably lay -200 that your IQ is higher than both of ours...............but on the same token, we would also lay -600 that are gambling knowledge is greater.

                                                    No big deal, I think all three of us have above average IQ's and all three of us are way above the norm in terms of gambling knowledge.

                                                    I'm really not here to debate such trivial stuff and constantly listen to childish jokes............my main concern is that ALL OF US HELP EACH OTHER HAMMER THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE COUNTER.

                                                    Best wishes,
                                                    FH
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                                                    • Nicky Santoro
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-08-08
                                                      • 16103

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                      Please. Just like the entire point of this whole thread where you actually thought MB was increasing commissions. Moron.
                                                      idiot, once again you're wrong.. baseball is 0.6% and every other sport is 1%.. i only asked for them to keep everything at 0.6%..

                                                      this is getting boring with you.. you've come into my threads 239 times so far, and my record is a perfect 239-0 vs you.. that's because whatever comes out of your mouth is nonsense

                                                      you're nothing but a wannabe wiseguy.. it's too obvious..
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                                                      • MonkeyF0cker
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 06-12-07
                                                        • 12144

                                                        #62
                                                        You keep saying "keep everything at 0.6%.". IT WAS NEVER 0.6%, FOR EVERYTHING, MORON. It was ALWAYS 2% on profit for each market outside of baseball. ALWAYS.
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                                                        • Nicky Santoro
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 04-08-08
                                                          • 16103

                                                          #63
                                                          monkeyfag,

                                                          are you really that dumb or do you just play one at sbr.. wake up man.. i said matchy should just make every sport at 0.6% like bases.. never did i say they were always 0.6%.. monkey, make that now 240-0 lifetime record vs you..

                                                          will you ever win a battle against me..i doubt it.. if you haven't by now, you never will..
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                                                          • Chuck Sims
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-29-05
                                                            • 3072

                                                            #64
                                                            Matchbook is far and away the best. If you are not using them for baseball, then I do not even have to ask if you are a winning player.
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                                                            • MonkeyF0cker
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 06-12-07
                                                              • 12144

                                                              #65
                                                              You're so fukkin thick and such a Matchbook noob that you don't even realize that they've been offering reduced commission for baseball for years...
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                                                              • Iceman
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 08-29-08
                                                                • 486

                                                                #66
                                                                Keep in mind Bookmaker coming out with an exchange this fall, interested in the commision structure there.
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                                                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-12-07
                                                                  • 12144

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                                  i only asked for them to keep everything at 0.6%..
                                                                  What does that statement imply, genius?
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                                                                  • Nicky Santoro
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-08-08
                                                                    • 16103

                                                                    #68
                                                                    i want them to keep everything at 0.6%.. that's all.. is that bad? they should do this instead of being so greedy.
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                                                                    • Fishhead
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                                      • 40179

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Iceman
                                                                      Keep in mind Bookmaker coming out with an exchange this fall, interested in the commision structure there.

                                                                      ICE---Part of me says that things may be better if we DON'T get any more exchanges.

                                                                      Thoughts
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                                                                      • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 06-12-07
                                                                        • 12144

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                                        i want them to keep everything at 0.6%.. that's all.. is that bad? they should do this instead of being so greedy.
                                                                        So greedy? They just cut commission, moron. Instead of -188.77/+180.32, it's now -187.88/+181.19 in your example. Cutting commission is being greedy? Only an absolute moron would think that. And only a fukkin retard would start a thread like this after they did.
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