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  • losturmarbles
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    #71
    Originally posted by Dbldown11
    OH PLEASE KAISER.......low to income citizens of this country have been paying higher percentage of taxes for years so lets not cry. Secondly the taxes used to be 80-90% for people like you and we didnt dissolve. And finally you're right socialism does always fail....

    LUCKILY WE ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND STILL ARE A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC
    % of what?

    50% pay no income tax.

    80% tax rate? when and where was this? and you're in favor of that?
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    • losturmarbles
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      #72
      Originally posted by Kaiser Jacob
      ... Last populist democracy is what we have become, which is an extension of socialism. The country was set up on the principles of being a federal republic, which we no longer are.
      spot on.
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      • reno cool
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        #73
        the poor should pay no taxes. Taxes go to benefit the rich, and government, which is there to support the rich.
        And if the rich ****s don't want to pay taxes, then good. No taxes, no govt, no centralized society. I'm very happy with that.

        But I have a feeling the rich (and our fearless leaders) wouldn't like that.
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        • losturmarbles
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          #74
          Originally posted by reno cool
          the poor should pay no taxes. Taxes go to benefit the rich, and government, which is there to support the rich.
          And if the rich ****s don't want to pay taxes, then good. No taxes, no govt, no centralized society. I'm very happy with that.

          But I have a feeling the rich (and our fearless leaders) wouldn't like that.
          care to be more specific reno?

          if the rich are the ones paying the taxes and taxes go to benefit the rich, then why not just let the rich keep the money then?

          you statement is so bogus.

          no one should be paying tax on income.
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          • reno cool
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            #75
            yes. that's the point. the rich have created taxation for their own benefit. The government is not there to help the public or the poor. But to build a system where they can prosper.
            For example: There will be no health care change until they figure out a way for the insurance companies to make more $. How much public $ will be handed over to these bastards?

            say no to war
            say no to work
            say no to taxes
            disband insurance and marketing companies.
            bird bird da bird's da word
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            • TheIntegrityKid
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              #76
              "No Taxation Without Representation!" - Jonathan Mayhew

              Well, we won our right to get representation, so therefore, we must be taxed... I know you don't like taxes at all reno, but what about a compromise of a Flat Tax?


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              • losturmarbles
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                #77
                it's not/wasnt about representation. it was more about abuse from mother england who was busy trying to create an world empire, meanwhile the free people in america didnt have a giant government inhibiting business and thus were wealthy. england was just trying to tax the rich to finance their reign of power. actually not much difference today, except instead of a king, we have mob rule.

                how about the fairtax?
                http://www.fairtax.org
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                • TheIntegrityKid
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                  #78
                  i'd go with the fair tax...


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                  • DwightShrute
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by andywend
                    100 years?

                    Obama has done far more long term damage to the country in his first 100 DAYS then Bush did during his entire 8 year run.

                    You have your head so far up Obama's rear end, you can't see what is happening right in front of your eyes.
                    No disputing that IMO

                    Most have their blinders on and refuse to see the forest through the trees. One day, they wake up to a USA which is a socialist country. They will still attempt to blame George W.

                    You Obama lovers are giving up everything that makes the USA the envy of the world and you are doing it willingly and with unconditional support in some cases .

                    I hope that people wake up and get rid this guy before it's too late. 1,319 more days in power could be too long.
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                    • Stunnna
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                      #80
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                      • therber2
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by Dbldown11
                        Incorrect.....she said it was the first time in a while she was "proud" of her country, she never ever said that she hated the country at any point.

                        And just to be clear I am a white male and November 4th 2008 was the first time in a long time that I was proud of my country as well
                        She said she is proud NOW for the FIRST time. She also said these things:

                        "The truth is most Americans don't want much. Folks don't want the whole pie. Most Americans feel blessed to thrive a little bit, but thats out of reach for them. The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more."

                        -Michelle Obama
                        April 8, 2008

                        "Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism, that you put down your division, that you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones, that you push yourselves to be better, and that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."

                        -Michelle Obama
                        February 3, 2008

                        Well, from this you can figure out EXACTLY what she meant. Michelle Obama does not like traditional America. She and her husband seek to exploit a weak point in our foundation for their personal ideals that have been placed easily yet temporarily on the minds of many struggling working Americans, and myriads of weak "free thinkers."

                        Well the Obama extremist approval rating has already plummeted. What now? Strife; civil unrest. It is already here, and now we are stuck with a failure in office for a long time. Good thing is this; the Pres. is much less of an idealogue than his braindead wife. He'll figure it out if he hasn't already. He has to. Sorry sir; mission communism has failed. Too many patriots still here.
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                        • reno cool
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                          #82
                          What she said was good. Unfortunately, Obama can't or wont do much of anything substantive. God forbid Americans have some of the things people in the rest of the developed world take for granted. You call yourself patriots. What a joke.
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                          • andywend
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                            #83
                            Reno Cool, instead of trashing the United States of America for not being 100% in favor of socialist policies, why don't you pick a country that is more in line with your socialist beliefs?

                            The vast majority of countries all over the planet have adopted a socialistic way of life so you have a very long list of countries to choose from.

                            Does every country on the planet have to turn into a socialist pit to gain your approval?

                            I have never come across a individual who is more JEALOUS of the rich than you.

                            Perhaps if you worked harder and complained less, you could achieve some level of financial success.
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                            • reno cool
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                              #84
                              No, don't want to work harder.
                              Prefer to exploit the poor.
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                              • andywend
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                                #85
                                The poor are the ones doing the exploiting at the expense of the middle and upper classes.

                                They pay the least in taxes and consume the most in government services.

                                Instead of being grateful, they sit around all day and complain that the rich don't pay enough taxes (even though the top 5% of the taxpayers pay over 95% of the tax).

                                You have nobody to blame but yourself.
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                                • reno cool
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by andywend
                                  The poor are the ones doing the exploiting at the expense of the middle and upper classes.

                                  They pay the least in taxes and consume the most in government services.

                                  Instead of being grateful, they sit around all day and complain that the rich don't pay enough taxes (even though the top 5% of the taxpayers pay over 95% of the tax).

                                  You have nobody to blame but yourself.
                                  Yes, I know, the opposite of everything is true. It's the American way.

                                  The poor write all the laws and run all business.
                                  bird bird da bird's da word
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                                  • andywend
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                                    #87
                                    In any of your socialistic/communistic dreamworlds, do the poor write the laws and run all businesses?

                                    Nothing you say makes any sense at all.

                                    Our current president grew up in extreme poverty. However, instead of sitting back and complaining about how unfair everything is, he worked his ass off and not only got out of poverty but went on to win the most powerful job in the world.

                                    EVERY SOCIETY has an elite class.

                                    In your ideal society, there is no middle class and you are stuck in whatever class you are born into (98% being poor).

                                    In my ideal society, anyone can become a member of the elite class through hard work and determination.

                                    The United States of America is the greatest country on Earth and socialists like yourself are doing everything they can to destroy her.

                                    Here's hoping you wind up failing in your mission.
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                                    • reno cool
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                                      #88
                                      No, in an ideal society people are treated with respect, not exploited. People aren't forced into meaningless labor that contributes nothing except lining the pockets of elites. (while at the same time damaging the environment)
                                      My only mission here, is to explain very basic things when prompted. I understand you hard core supporters of the status-quo have a lot invested in your beliefs.(After all, you've been beat over the head with it your whole lives.)
                                      Once you realize your rhetoric is nothing more than the rationalizations of a self serving elite, pounded into you, you'll see things much clearer.
                                      bird bird da bird's da word
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                                      • DwightShrute
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                                        #89
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                                        • andywend
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by reno cool
                                          No, in an ideal society people are treated with respect, not exploited. People aren't forced into meaningless labor that contributes nothing except lining the pockets of elites. (while at the same time damaging the environment)
                                          My only mission here, is to explain very basic things when prompted. I understand you hard core supporters of the status-quo have a lot invested in your beliefs.(After all, you've been beat over the head with it your whole lives.)
                                          Once you realize your rhetoric is nothing more than the rationalizations of a self serving elite, pounded into you, you'll see things much clearer.
                                          "People aren't forced into meaningless labor that contributes nothing except lining the pockets of elites."

                                          How does anyone get FORCED into meaningless labor in this country? While I'm sure it happens quite often in the socialistic rotting cesspools you call Utopia, please provide examples of when that ever happens in the United States of America?

                                          Its the "elites" that take all the chances and put their whole lives on the line in building businesses which eventually provide all the jobs for the poor.

                                          Its pretty clear you have NEVER owned a business which employs people and you don't have a clue as to what is actually involved in doing so.

                                          RenoCool, you will NEVER amount to anything if you continue to sit back and complain all the time. You are a man of words but NOT action.
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                                          • jon101
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                                            #91
                                            Newt is kinda wrong, Obama is succeeding in screwing us by finding ways to tax us, sodas are next. Then his plan to socialize medicine through insurance reform, well I dunno, I think Obama is the antichrist but hey thats just me.
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                                            • reno cool
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                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by andywend
                                              "People aren't forced into meaningless labor that contributes nothing except lining the pockets of elites."

                                              How does anyone get FORCED into meaningless labor in this country? While I'm sure it happens quite often in the socialistic rotting cesspools you call Utopia, please provide examples of when that ever happens in the United States of America?

                                              Its the "elites" that take all the chances and put their whole lives on the line in building businesses which eventually provide all the jobs for the poor.

                                              Its pretty clear you have NEVER owned a business which employs people and you don't have a clue as to what is actually involved in doing so.

                                              RenoCool, you will NEVER amount to anything if you continue to sit back and complain all the time. You are a man of words but NOT action.
                                              easy enough.
                                              sales, accounting, marketing, insurance, lawyers, speculators, banking...on and on. If people were only rewarded for doing work that actually benefits the community we could avoid 90% of jobs and spend time doing meaningful things.

                                              And of course you're forced into it in the US. Not only that, many have to look and pray someone hires and exploits them. Demeaning is the word.

                                              btw, you can stop referring to my accomplishments, because you know nothing of them.
                                              bird bird da bird's da word
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                                              • andywend
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                                                #93
                                                "If people were only rewarded for doing work that actually benefits the community we could avoid 90% of jobs and spend time doing meaningful things."

                                                "Not only that, many have to look and pray someone hires and exploits them. Demeaning is the word."

                                                We're off to see the wizard, the wonderful Wizard of Oz!!!
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                                                • andywend
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                                                  #94
                                                  RenoCool's "exploited" poor acting like the animals they are:

                                                  LOS ANGELES -- Looting and vandalism that broke out in the aftermath of the Los Angeles Lakers' basketball championship won't keep the city from celebrating the team's victory: City officials and the Lakers are planning a victory parade they hope will overshadow unrest the police chief blames on a mob of "knuckleheads."
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                                                  Police were reviewing security video and media images Monday to identify suspects who caused damage downtown the night before. Police Chief William Bratton said many known gang members were in the crowd.
                                                  "These knuckleheads seem to really relish their opportunity in the dark," Bratton said.
                                                  Freeman | Lakers 99, Magic 86 | Finals
                                                  A parade was being planned for Wednesday. City officials were meeting Monday afternoon to plan for security along the parade route and a rally to be held at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.
                                                  Lakers spokesman John Black confirmed that the Lakers and the city will kick in about $1 million apiece for the party. Citing the city's financial crisis, unions representing police, traffic officers, street and sanitation workers demanded the Lakers or other private groups pay for it.
                                                  Bratton didn't know how much the parade would cost, but he said the team and members of the business community planned to provide financial assistance. The cost will depend on the number of city workers needed.
                                                  "Some of what is being planned will be informed by what happened last night," the chief said, referring to Sunday's disturbance.
                                                  Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa told KTLA-TV he has already raised several hundred thousand dollars from private donators and the city "will not put in a million dollars" for the event.
                                                  Fans eagerly buying Lakers' gear at the downtown Team LA store on Monday expressed disgust over the disturbance.
                                                  "It's uncalled for, it's a shame and it's embarrassing for a lot of us in Los Angeles," said Mark Scoggins, 48.
                                                  "It was ridiculous, it was definitely not the right way to celebrate," said Alex Ramirez, 27.
                                                  Trouble erupted Sunday night in the area around Staples Center, the Lakers' home court, even though the team won its 15th National Basketball Association championship in Florida, defeating the Orlando Magic 99-86 in Game 5 of the final series.
                                                  Street celebrations that began peacefully turned ugly. Fires were set, objects were thrown at police officers, several businesses were looted and buses, police cars and other vehicles were vandalized. Hooligans hurled rocks through the window of one bus abandoned under an overpass.
                                                  Eight police officers were injured and 18 people were arrested Sunday night.
                                                  Two more people were arrested Monday when neighbors of a looted shoe store alerted authorities to two residents of an adjacent building.
                                                  When officers knocked on their door they saw shoe boxes inside the apartment, said police Sgt. Mark Pearce. The man and woman, who were not immediately identified, were booked for investigation of theft.
                                                  Inside The Holy Grail shoe store, shelves were empty and glass display cases were shattered. Receipts, paperwork and shoe boxes were scattered around a back storeroom.
                                                  Store owner Richard Torres said he lost at least $100,000 worth of vintage sneakers and sports apparel, as well as computers.
                                                  More than anything, he was upset because much of the stolen merchandise was burned.
                                                  "It would be different if we got burglarized, but they were literally lighting stuff on fire," said Torres, whose business usually does well after games when sports fans stop in.
                                                  "For this to happen, it leaves a sour taste," he said.
                                                  Torres and store manager Liz Sanchez could not understand why police were unable to prevent the looting. Sanchez said witnesses told her that the store was targeted when one person started shouting "Who wants shoes?" The door was then pushed in.
                                                  At a Shell gas station, assistant manager Jorge Osorio said looters took candy and sodas from its convenience store and fled.
                                                  "So now we just clean up and move on," he said.
                                                  Bratton told KNX radio that the Police Department was adequately prepared with resources staged in different areas of the city.
                                                  "It's unfortunate that as we were dispersing those groups, making arrests, that a number of them for a period of time were able to commit the acts of vandalism, the looting ... until we were able to get sufficient resources," he said.
                                                  The chief said he was not satisfied with what occurred, but he said the blame should fall on the mob, not the department or the city.
                                                  Bratton said he anticipated more arrests as officers review media footage to "identify a lot of these characters, many of whom are gang members and are well known to us."
                                                  Sunday's game was not shown on Staples Center's giant exterior TV screen. In 2000, a large crowd that watched the Lakers win the NBA title turned into a mob that torched police cars, a TV van and caused about $750,000 in property damage to businesses.
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                                                  • wtf
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                                                    #95
                                                    ^^^^^


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                                                    • reno cool
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                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by andywend
                                                      RenoCool's "exploited" poor acting like the animals they are:

                                                      LOS ANGELES -- Looting and vandalism that broke out in the aftermath of the Los Angeles Lakers' basketball championship won't keep the city from celebrating the team's victory: City officials and the Lakers are planning a victory parade they hope will overshadow unrest the police chief blames on a mob of "knuckleheads."
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                                                      Police were reviewing security video and media images Monday to identify suspects who caused damage downtown the night before. Police Chief William Bratton said many known gang members were in the crowd.
                                                      "These knuckleheads seem to really relish their opportunity in the dark," Bratton said.
                                                      Freeman | Lakers 99, Magic 86 | Finals
                                                      A parade was being planned for Wednesday. City officials were meeting Monday afternoon to plan for security along the parade route and a rally to be held at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.
                                                      Lakers spokesman John Black confirmed that the Lakers and the city will kick in about $1 million apiece for the party. Citing the city's financial crisis, unions representing police, traffic officers, street and sanitation workers demanded the Lakers or other private groups pay for it.
                                                      Bratton didn't know how much the parade would cost, but he said the team and members of the business community planned to provide financial assistance. The cost will depend on the number of city workers needed.
                                                      "Some of what is being planned will be informed by what happened last night," the chief said, referring to Sunday's disturbance.
                                                      Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa told KTLA-TV he has already raised several hundred thousand dollars from private donators and the city "will not put in a million dollars" for the event.
                                                      Fans eagerly buying Lakers' gear at the downtown Team LA store on Monday expressed disgust over the disturbance.
                                                      "It's uncalled for, it's a shame and it's embarrassing for a lot of us in Los Angeles," said Mark Scoggins, 48.
                                                      "It was ridiculous, it was definitely not the right way to celebrate," said Alex Ramirez, 27.
                                                      Trouble erupted Sunday night in the area around Staples Center, the Lakers' home court, even though the team won its 15th National Basketball Association championship in Florida, defeating the Orlando Magic 99-86 in Game 5 of the final series.
                                                      Street celebrations that began peacefully turned ugly. Fires were set, objects were thrown at police officers, several businesses were looted and buses, police cars and other vehicles were vandalized. Hooligans hurled rocks through the window of one bus abandoned under an overpass.
                                                      Eight police officers were injured and 18 people were arrested Sunday night.
                                                      Two more people were arrested Monday when neighbors of a looted shoe store alerted authorities to two residents of an adjacent building.
                                                      When officers knocked on their door they saw shoe boxes inside the apartment, said police Sgt. Mark Pearce. The man and woman, who were not immediately identified, were booked for investigation of theft.
                                                      Inside The Holy Grail shoe store, shelves were empty and glass display cases were shattered. Receipts, paperwork and shoe boxes were scattered around a back storeroom.
                                                      Store owner Richard Torres said he lost at least $100,000 worth of vintage sneakers and sports apparel, as well as computers.
                                                      More than anything, he was upset because much of the stolen merchandise was burned.
                                                      "It would be different if we got burglarized, but they were literally lighting stuff on fire," said Torres, whose business usually does well after games when sports fans stop in.
                                                      "For this to happen, it leaves a sour taste," he said.
                                                      Torres and store manager Liz Sanchez could not understand why police were unable to prevent the looting. Sanchez said witnesses told her that the store was targeted when one person started shouting "Who wants shoes?" The door was then pushed in.
                                                      At a Shell gas station, assistant manager Jorge Osorio said looters took candy and sodas from its convenience store and fled.
                                                      "So now we just clean up and move on," he said.
                                                      Bratton told KNX radio that the Police Department was adequately prepared with resources staged in different areas of the city.
                                                      "It's unfortunate that as we were dispersing those groups, making arrests, that a number of them for a period of time were able to commit the acts of vandalism, the looting ... until we were able to get sufficient resources," he said.
                                                      The chief said he was not satisfied with what occurred, but he said the blame should fall on the mob, not the department or the city.
                                                      Bratton said he anticipated more arrests as officers review media footage to "identify a lot of these characters, many of whom are gang members and are well known to us."
                                                      Sunday's game was not shown on Staples Center's giant exterior TV screen. In 2000, a large crowd that watched the Lakers win the NBA title turned into a mob that torched police cars, a TV van and caused about $750,000 in property damage to businesses.

                                                      Yes, this is the result of a system you support. But it's easy to say millions of people are bad criminals. God forbid we blame the society that produces it (because then we'd have to question things). After all, it's the greatest country in the world.
                                                      Have you ever been to an American city?
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                                                      • andywend
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                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by reno cool
                                                        Yes, this is the result of a system you support. But it's easy to say millions of people are bad criminals. God forbid we blame the society that produces it (because then we'd have to question things). After all, it's the greatest country in the world.
                                                        Have you ever been to an American city?
                                                        I agree with you what happened after the Laker game was a result of the U.S. criminal court system though you are incorrect in your statement that I support it.

                                                        In other countries with better criminal court systems, this WORTHLESS GHETTO TRASH would face the strong possibility of losing limbs for what they did.

                                                        The U.S. criminal court system is FAR TOO SOFT on crime thanks to people like yourself who elect liberal judges who show empathy towards criminals instead of the victims.

                                                        The only way to stop crime like this is to make criminals TERRIFIED of the consequences. However, as long as there are people like you in this world that will rush to defend the actions of these animals, things are only going to get worse.

                                                        Its very easy for me to call these people bad criminals because that is EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE.

                                                        So you believe society is to blame for what happened after the Laker game? Is there ever a circumstance in your mind when the person actually committing the crime is responsible?

                                                        Would you still feel the same way if you were on the "victim" end?
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                                                        • andywend
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                                                          #98
                                                          Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, and Obama supporters, et al: We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way. Here is a model separation agreement:

                                                          Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

                                                          Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible forfinding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).




                                                          We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .

                                                          You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

                                                          We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.

                                                          We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

                                                          You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.



                                                          We'll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

                                                          Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

                                                          Sincerely,

                                                          John J. Wall, Law Student and an American
                                                          P. S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda with you.



                                                          "The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury."






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                                                          • reno cool
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                                                            #99
                                                            This has been posted here before. Your system will always create an underclass (and a large one) which you can then shamelessly blame the shortcomings of your system on.
                                                            Most likely you will be in that underclass. The only reason there has been such a thing as a middle class is due to people fighting for their rights.(such as unions, civil rights, etc.)
                                                            It's amazing how right wingers are quick to say how great America is but then are ready to label half the country scum. You can't really have it both ways.
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                                                            • andywend
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                                                              #100
                                                              What do unions and civil rights have to do with there being a middle class? Nothing you say makes any sense.

                                                              Any business foolish enough to hire union labor deserves to fail and that is exactly what will happen each and every time when they are forced to compete against other businesses which don't deal with unions.

                                                              As far as civil rights, the crime rate among blacks was far lower before the passage of the Civil Rights Act than it has been since it was passed.

                                                              Less government intervention in the lives of its people is what creates a middle class.

                                                              Take a good long look at the societies that have adopted socialistic/communistic ways of life. In the vast majority of them, there are only 2 classes (the elite and everyone else). If you are born poor, that is exactly where you will stay regardless of how hard you work.

                                                              While I assume socialist dictators like Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro are your heroes, 90% of the people living in Cuba and Venezuela have much lower standards of living then even the lower middle class living in the United States of America.

                                                              America and the ideals our country was built on will ALWAYS be great. However, the same can NOT be said of its people.

                                                              Democrats as a group could NEVER support themselves without the help of republicans.

                                                              I would strongly support the proposal mentioned above where every citizen of America would have to choose their political party of preference and then divide up half the country into democratic and republican sides.

                                                              Within 5 years, the entire democratic side would resemble the inner cities of Chicago, Los Angeles, etc, with the vast majority of its people doing everything in their power to flee.
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                                                              • reno cool
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-02-08
                                                                • 3567

                                                                #101
                                                                You're posting total nonsense now. You seem to know nothing about the history of the country you claim to admire. Apparently you don't realize the roll unions and various resistance played in the US. If not for which you yes you would be working for peanuts if lucky and under horrible conditions. That is in fact what was happening, it's not a theory.
                                                                Slaves were brought here by force because the hard working patriots believed it's better work be done by someone else. There too people struggled for rights. The results of that is what he have today. It's not good enough to blame the individual.
                                                                Large segments of the population are either totally useless to business or are expandable. Of course, no business wants to pay more for labor. Is that the society you want? Where a large majority has to beg and compete for peanuts.
                                                                Too many things to mention, but the poverty in Latin America is in no small part due to the rape of that part of the world by US business interests for centuries.
                                                                bird bird da bird's da word
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                                                                • BrentCrude
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-16-05
                                                                  • 4665

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Newt is an unelectable womanizing hypocrite jerk that sometimes has good ideas but can't follow through on them and refine them like the contract with america dealie.Newt is nuts too where he once made a fool of himself going apeshit over FDR at some statue unveiling and 20 minutes later was telling about his platform that was just the opposite of what FDR was all about.I think Newt is like Ted Kennedy and has a brain tumor.On the Obama having already failed statement,Newt is like a broken clock.Newt is right twice a day and he was doubly right when he made that statement!!!!!!!

                                                                  What do you posters have to have happen to you to believe Obama is a failure?Does he personally have to come to your house to whoop on you,confiscate everything from you,restrict you from everything,regulate you out of existence,tax you out of existence,scold you and lecture you or can he just do it from DC and have other minions helping him whoop on you where you don't think he's that bad?You Obama cultists are like all good cultists where you don't even realize that you have been swallowed up by a cult.It's just like a below average guy that asks a great looking woman out and she becomes his girlfriend but she uses,abuses,craps on his head,cheats on him and rarely puts out but the guy is happier than shit because he thinks he's a part of something so grand.
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                                                                  • andywend
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-20-07
                                                                    • 4805

                                                                    #103
                                                                    RenoCool, in every one of your posts, you make it crystal clear how much you HATE the United States of America which makes sense since the vast majority of left-wing lunatics like yourself feel the same way.

                                                                    My question to you and all those like you is why you continue to live in a country which you so clearly despise? Its important that you know the feeling is mutual when it comes to how the majority of the country feels about you.

                                                                    I am well aware of why unions came into being and I also realize how important they were during the Great Depression where employers were taking clear advantage of employees during the worst of economic times.

                                                                    As soon as the Great Depression ended, every union should have been eliminated.
                                                                    In todays times, unions serve no purpose except to DESTROY all businesses that are foolish enough to try and compete with other non-union run businesses.

                                                                    I challenge you to name even one union-run business that competes favorably when taken on by a similar business NOT controlled by union labor? From the automotive industry to the airlines, every business that relies on union labor can NOT compete with their non-union counterparts.

                                                                    The U.S. would have been far better off if slaves were NEVER brought to this country.

                                                                    "Large segments of the population are either totally useless to business or are expandable. Of course, no business wants to pay more for labor. Is that the society you want? Where a large majority has to beg and compete for peanuts."

                                                                    You bet that's the society I want where people are paid according to their abilities and their productivity. I certainly do NOT want my government or left-wing liberals setting the pay scale, thats for sure.

                                                                    The one great thing about people like yourself who clearly hate the United States of America is that the majority of your kind live miserable lives and never have much of anything. Our country would certainly be a much better place all-around if everyone like you found another place to live. Since you hate the U.S. so much, I don't know why you stay.
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                                                                    • Dbldown11
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-17-06
                                                                      • 3605

                                                                      #104
                                                                      The car companies have been doing just fine under unionized labor for a long time. Our messed up Health Care system cost them (which our horrible dictator/socialist leader wants to fix finally) and the fact that they make shitty cars when you compare them to the Toyota's of the world also cost them.
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                                                                      • slacker00
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-06-05
                                                                        • 12262

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by CrazyLou
                                                                        I got goosebumps reading that.

                                                                        Tell 'em Newt!
                                                                        Where was Newt during the past 8 years? Just because the GOP was in power doesn't mean things were going smoothly domestically. There was plenty of room for improvement.

                                                                        It's partisan politics. He's playing the game, trying to gain recognition as GOP leader.

                                                                        I'm not convinced that he's the man for the job. The GOP needs a new direction, not a return to the neocon rhetoric that got us into this mess in the first place.
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