Trump Tax Plan

[brooks85]

The fact less wonder strikes again. LOSER

yeah this desperation is really working for you!! lol


the fact you can even post in this thread after your embarrassments is hilarious. Shows how truly insane you are alice.


hey anyone else you want to call out for help so they can also say you're wrong?

lol!

[khicks26]

Did you and the other chicks at sistahvegan.com come up with that premise??? Were you girls discussing new vegan recipies and somehow the Nazi's came up??? I can't believe you would have the audacity to post here again but you being retarded never surprises me anymore. You will be rightly abused every time you post. What a fuckinn dumb cuunt you are.

Or you could try reading a book. If Maggie is sleeping, you fuking creep.

[khicks26]

yeah this desperation is really working for you!! lol


the fact you can even post in this thread after your embarrassments is hilarious. Shows how truly insane you are alice.


hey anyone else you want to call out for help so they can also say you're wrong?

lol!

didn't read'

[brooks85]

^lol we both know that is a lie.


clockwork khicks has broken, finally accepted everyone knows he is an idiot and doesn't care anymore. At least you don't have to play pretend anymore.

[khicks26]

I don't twist anything around. I do view the "poor" in America, people who probably have air conditioning, cable TV, the internet, smart phones, people who live better than kings did 200 years ago, differently than I view poor people in 3rd world countries, people who might starve to death by the time you read this.

I do care, which is why I endorse policies that will get people out of poverty. You endorse policies that have caused more misery, poverty, and death than any policy in human history.

I'm not forcing anyone to work. You're the one who wants to take 15% of a working poor person's income and give it to a mechanical engineer so he doesn't have to work anymore. That's super compassionate.

Josh everything about you is twisted around.

Yeah America's poor sure do live it up. 1/2 the country makes 30k a year or less. 14% of American homes are food insecure. Many more are one crisis away from having trouble with food. 13 million children live in those homes.

Last time I gave food to the food pantry, they didn't tell me. No we don't need it send it overseas.

Good thing we have Trump cutting free school lunch's & Meals on Wheel's.

You & your friend Ralphie can go suck down a meatball sub. Don't forget to get one for your dog.

[khicks26]

The 1800s is the greatest period of growth in American history and the time we were known around the world as the land of opportunity. Millions of people, and I bet some of your ancestors are included in that number, willing moved here to enjoy the highest standard of living ever created for the average person up to that time in human history.

You agree with trickle down, we agree that business is going to other countries to take advantage of the lower costs, all trickle down says is let's undercut them by cutting regulation and taxes and jobs will move back.

Yeah you could also sell humans, put any chemical you wish in a product & children as young as 7 worked in the factory's.

What a great time it was.

[brooks85]

Josh everything about you is twisted around.

Yeah America's poor sure do live it up. 1/2 the country makes 30k a year or less. 14% of American homes are food insecure. Many more are one crisis away from having trouble with food. 13 million children live in those homes.

Last time I gave food to the food pantry, they didn't tell me. No we don't need it send it overseas.

Good thing we have Trump cutting free school lunch's & Meals on Wheel's.

You & your friend Ralphie can go suck down a meatball sub. Don't forget to get one for your dog.

lol Alice the fact you could say this to anyone is hilarious, it makes your clown show so funny. The moron who said black people can't be racist telling someone else they have things twisted around.

[khicks26]

^lol we both know that is a lie.


clockwork khicks has broken, finally accepted everyone knows he is an idiot and doesn't care anymore. At least you don't have to play pretend anymore.

didn't read'

[khicks26]

lol Alice the fact you could say this to anyone is hilarious, it makes your clown show so funny. The moron who said black people can't be racist telling someone else they have things twisted around.

didn't read' but I could probably tell you what it says.

Brooks only has 2 basic replies.

[rkelly110]

didn't read'

Good, you aren't missing much.

[maggiethebestdog]

Or you could try reading a book. If Maggie is sleeping, you fuking creep.

More chicks for knicks. Alexander is another black civil rights activist who serves up more race baiting unfounded nonsense portraying thugs as victims. She is a law professor as well, meaning another looney tune campus freak show. The only thing smart she has ever said is that Democrats don't care about blacks which most people have known for 50yrs. You can tell what an idiot you are by the lunatic retards you reference, as if they are factual instead of the lying freaks they are. Try reading something a man has written. I know you being a cuunt might stop you but at least there is a chance you might come across a fact.

[brooks85]

^notice how the two idiots stick together.


remember khicks, it's always rkelly or chico... only a moronic gambler couldn't notice that trend

[brooks85]

didn't read'

only an rkelly would believe this lie



and... case in point

Good, you aren't missing much.

lol amazing how you set yourself rkelly

[khicks26]

More chicks for knicks. Alexander is another black civil rights activist who serves up more race baiting unfounded nonsense portraying thugs as victims. She is a law professor as well, meaning another looney tune campus freak show. The only thing smart she has ever said is that Democrats don't care about blacks which most people have known for 50yrs. You can tell what an idiot you are by the lunatic retards you reference, as if they are factual instead of the lying freaks they are. Try reading something a man has written. I know you being a cuunt might stop you but at least there is a chance you might come across a fact.

You telling me to be a man. LOL.

If I ever seen you. I would bust you knee cap with a baseball bat. Watch you limp around for a few weeks. Then bust your other one.

As you lay on the ground crying like the bitch you are. I would then shove the bat up your c unt.

Big fuking internet tough guy with Maggie for a name. Just go away Dwight.

You & Maggie are full of shit.

[brooks85]

You telling me to be a man. LOL.

If I ever seen you. I would bust you knee cap with a baseball bat. Watch you limp around for a few weeks. Then bust your other one.

As you lay on the ground crying like the bitch you are. I would then shove the bat up your c unt.

Big fuking internet tough guy with Maggie for a name. Just go away Dwight.

You & Maggie are full of shit.

khicks, it's not working. Take it from a third party. No one buys that you're physically capable of being a threat. Plus, you're a proven lying coward.

[khicks26]

Didn't read

[chico2663]

I guess brooks is telling everyone what a stud he is. But he is a lying p.o.s.

[maggiethebestdog]

You telling me to be a man. LOL.

If I ever seen you. I would bust you knee cap with a baseball bat. Watch you limp around for a few weeks. Then bust your other one.

As you lay on the ground crying like the bitch you are. I would then shove the bat up your c unt.

Big fuking internet tough guy with Maggie for a name. Just go away Dwight.

You & Maggie are full of shit.

So you can't dispute one thing I have said??? Gotchya. I am the internet tough guy??? I have never threatened anyone. You just can't stop lying. You threaten people and then call someone else an internet tough guy. You are unraveling before our eyes. Lie after lie being being exposed as well as your lack of any honesty or insight. I would never hit you if I saw you. I don't hit woman or pussified men. Maybe for your next retarded premise you could quote the lovely ladies from the View.

[chico2663]

So you can't dispute one thing I have said??? Gotchya. I am the internet tough guy??? I have never threatened anyone. You just can't stop lying. You threaten people and then call someone else an internet tough guy. You are unraveling before our eyes. Lie after lie being being exposed as well as your lack of any honesty or insight. I would never hit you if I saw you. I don't hit woman or pussified men. Maybe for your next retarded premise you could quote the lovely ladies from the View.

Dwight start using your regular handle you fraud. Also you said you had no problem with that ugly broad antifa sp so you are an internet tough guy.

[khicks26]

So you can't dispute one thing I have said??? Gotchya. I am the internet tough guy??? I have never threatened anyone. You just can't stop lying. You threaten people and then call someone else an internet tough guy. You are unraveling before our eyes. Lie after lie being being exposed as well as your lack of any honesty or insight. I would never hit you if I saw you. I don't hit woman or pussified men. Maybe for your next retarded premise you could quote the lovely ladies from the View.

OK now this sounds like dwight.

Dispute what? Your slander & BS rants about something you know nothing about.

Go read the book asshole then tell me what you know. But I doubt it will sink into that blockhead of yours.

What's funny is you say all this BS, be unreasonable & call names. As soon as someone does it to you, you play the victim.

Total BITCH move. Like I said, just go away dwight & take maggie with you.

Maybe you can dig SteelRain up from the dead.

[brooks85]

OK now this sounds like dwight.

Dispute what? Your slander & BS rants about something you know nothing about.

Go read the book asshole then tell what you know. But I doubt it will sink into that blockhead of yours.

What's funny is you say all this BS, be unreasonable & call names. As soon as someone does it to you, you play the victim.

Total BITCH move. Like I said, just go away dwight & take maggie with you.

lol khicks proving again that he doesn't even know what he was supposed to be disputing. Typical sign of a liberal; Stupid.

[khicks26]

didn't read

[chico2663]

I assume your talking to brooks . That dunderhead has nothing useful to say. Liberal,sheep,running away, coward or can you send brooks a deek pic. That is all that comes out of his mouth.

[guitarjosh]

If the Nazi's were the only group in Germany at the time that didn't like Jews. They would be bigots, not racist. But that was not the case, many Germans hates Jews that were not Nazi's. Which also made it easier for the Nazi's to turn the German people against the Jews, once they gained power.

Again voting has nothing to do with it.

Those groups collectively didn't have the influence to push those racist laws in the 1920s, so using your definition, they weren't racist.

How much of the driving of that truck did you do? Its still making money from others doing the work. Free Rent & a Free Ride. Just like people who are retired collecting SS. Their own money that they put into it. The same people who just because that didn't invest like you, deserve to work until they are dead. So you seem to think.

Maybe the question should be, if 52 people didn't have the same wealth as the bottom 3.5 billion. Would 20000 people die of starvation everyday. But I'm the one living the life because I have cable. Give me a fuking break.

For those in the 25 to 35% tax brackets, the capital gains tax is 15%. For the wealthiest citizens who fall into the 39.6% income tax bracket, the capital gains rate is still only 20%. Assume that, in the example above, your $5,000 in investment income is from long-term investments held longer than a year.Oct 15, 2015

How much did the driver pay for the truck? He is making money off of my property, and you're saying he owes me nothing. If workers can't use someone elses' property to make money, you're going to have few workers. People paid into SS, but if I pay money into a bank account, it doesn't give me a right to take out 2 times what I put in. I never said anyone should work until they're dead, but if they need money and can contribute to society, they should.

Yes, there isn't enough money to go around. The only reason those people have so much wealth is because they didn't spend it, they saved it. Also, many people in America have negative net worth, but they're not in danger of starvation. You're living the life compared to a person who is going to starve to death in the next 24 hours. Considering 49 million people pay over $10 a month just for HBO, we could end world hunger if people just cancelled their subscriptions and gave the money to the hungry.

You're talking about long term (held at least 12 months) capital gains rates, I'm talking about short term. Short term is treated as regular income when you pay taxes on it. Again, if you buy a house for 400k and sell it 10 years later for 480k, is that 80k income?

Here, you could just look it up yourself.

I sure the source will not meet the Josh standard.

47% of all American own any stock at all — with an emphasis on “any.” Coincidentally, that is the very same number cited by 2012 Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney as the percentage of Americans who pay no income tax.That fewer than half of U.S. households own any stock at all shows that the ambition of the Reagan and Clinton administrations to turn Americans into a nation of shareholders has fallen significantly short of the goal.
In addition, nearly 44% of Americans lack a financial safety net, defined as not having enough savings or other liquid assets to stay out of poverty for more than three months if they lose their income, according to the Corporation for Enterprise Development. And one-third of all Americans do not have any savings at all.



These numbers, along with a trend (which picked up speed in the 1980s) from employer-funded pensions to self-funded retirement plans such as 401(k) plans and IRAs, make plain that more than half of the country’s population is entirely dependent on Social Security for their retirement.


The wealthiest 10% of all Americans own 81% of all shares of stock owned by U.S. households (as of 2010). This underscores just how concentrated financial wealth is in the United States.
Stock ownership falls precipitously after this top strata. The bottom 90% of U.S. households own 19% of the stock traded on U.S. markets — and the bottom 80% own less than half of that (8.4%). The bottom 60% of U.S. households own a mere 2.5% of outstanding shares.

I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about your claim that the middle class and poor pay more in taxes than the rich. Considering the richest 1% pay 45% of the income taxes and own most of the stock, therefore paying most of the capital gains taxes, I'd love to see you back up that claim.

Josh everything about you is twisted around.

Yeah America's poor sure do live it up. 1/2 the country makes 30k a year or less. 14% of American homes are food insecure. Many more are one crisis away from having trouble with food. 13 million children live in those homes.

Last time I gave food to the food pantry, they didn't tell me. No we don't need it send it overseas.

Good thing we have Trump cutting free school lunch's & Meals on Wheel's.

You & your friend Ralphie can go suck down a meatball sub. Don't forget to get one for your dog.

I don't twist anything. Poor people in America are likely to have air conditioning, cable TV, the internet, a computer, microwave, etc. People around the world would love to only be a crisis away from having trouble with food, they already have that problem.

Yeah you could also sell humans, put any chemical you wish in a product & children as young as 7 worked in the factory's.

What a great time it was.

Where was it better for the average person at the time, and why did they move here and not there?

The funny thing is you're saying is was terrible, yet it was rapidly improving because they rejected the policies that you endorse. Places with those polices you like saw people moving away from there to America, not the other way around.

[brooks85]

I assume your talking to brooks . That dunderhead has nothing useful to say. Liberal,sheep,running away, coward or can you send brooks a deek pic. That is all that comes out of his mouth.

lol he is trying so hard

[RoyBacon]

Khicks the answer is not take from the rich and give to the poor. The answer is ignite economic growth and open up opportunities for the under employed and unemployed to get better jobs and a career.

It is the "rich" that hire not the poor. By stripping the rich you hurt the poor the most. I am not going to invest in a project when I know I have to give 42.8% of any returns to the government. It's juice. You want the Rockets -7 -142? No. You want them -7 -105? Yes.

So you can say 5% own 91% or whatever but you can not get risk takers to invest at high juice(taxes). The risk takers are motivated not to invest and those that suffer the most are the poor, unskilled, under/unemployed. You need to get over the fact that a rising tide lifts all boats. Who cares how much the rich have or make? We need opportunity and economic activity.

[chico2663]

Khicks the answer is not take from the rich and give to the poor. The answer is ignite economic growth and open up opportunities for the under employed and unemployed to get better jobs and a career.

It is the "rich" that hire not the poor. By stripping the rich you hurt the poor the most. I am not going to invest in a project when I know I have to give 42.8% of any returns to the government. It's juice. You want the Rockets -7 -142? No. You want them -7 -105? Yes.

So you can say 5% own 91% or whatever but you can not get risk takers to invest at high juice(taxes). The risk takers are motivated not to invest and those that suffer the most are the poor, unskilled, under/unemployed. You need to get over the fact that a rising tide lifts all boats. Who cares how much the rich have or make? We need opportunity and economic activity.

It is mostly middle class that starts business. The big corps. hire people but the economy picks up when the middle class create jobs.

[RoyBacon]

The point is diehard libs are looking for a magic solution to soak the rich and still have economic growth. They see it as unfair that the rich get richer. This strategy has always failed.

Libs love to call it some form of trickle down and post stats as khicks has done to highlight their point.

Yes small business creates jobs because of the sheer number. And small business suffers under insane regulation and paperwork and of course ridiculous taxes.

[BarstoolProphet]

What do we do with the CEOs that make millions as a base and then millions as bonuses.. Ungodly amounts. And most of these companies they run are on auto-pilot?

Hell, if you were to take the mailroom guy at some blue chip company and put him in as CEO,,I am sure that he could not even F&ck that up.

So I say TAX TAX TAX TAX ,,the living shit out of them.

[brooks85]

What do we do with the CEOs that make millions as a base and then millions as bonuses.. Ungodly amounts. And most of these companies they run are on auto-pilot?

Hell, if you were to take the mailroom guy at some blue chip company and put him in as CEO,,I am sure that he could not even F&ck that up.

So I say TAX TAX TAX TAX ,,the living shit out of them.

invest in their companies

[BarstoolProphet]

Really Brooks ,,thats your solution to income equality?

btw I DO ,,,lol

[brooks85]

Really Brooks ,,thats your solution to income equality?

btw I DO ,,,lol

for people to make more income...



yeah, that would be my solution. Crazy, I know....

[guitarjosh]

What do we do with the CEOs that make millions as a base and then millions as bonuses.. Ungodly amounts. And most of these companies they run are on auto-pilot?

Hell, if you were to take the mailroom guy at some blue chip company and put him in as CEO,,I am sure that he could not even F&ck that up.

So I say TAX TAX TAX TAX ,,the living shit out of them.

Run on auto pilot and the mailman can run them

[BarstoolProphet]

too funny Brooks.

I am sure that all the shooting going on in Chicago is simply bc everyone is racing to get their hands on the most recent issue of the WSJ.

btw brooks ,,you keep investing,,I am sure you will catch that CEO in net worth in no time.

[khicks26]

Those groups collectively didn't have the influence to push those racist laws in the 1920s, so using your definition, they weren't racist.

You mean like the US having segregation in the south, but not in the whole country. The Laws & workings of the American South was also something that the Nazi's admired

Like I said they would be Bigots. But anti semitism was around before the Nazi's. They were also not the only group to blame the Jews for the lose of WWI. Anti Semitism was also not isolated to Germany. To say they weren't racist would be a stretch.