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  • Greget
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    • 11-01-10
    • 10516

    #71
    Originally posted by unde0087
    So pre Obamacare, cheaper insurance and you could pick whatever insurer, post Obamacare prices sky rocket, options limited, and penalty for not having insurance.

    And you believe Obamacare had no affect on market? Hmmmmm, looks pretty evident what the problem is to me but to each there own

    No actually the opposite is true. Before Obamacare many people couldn't even get health insurance because of prices, preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, etc...

    Premiums are going up, they always go up, the question is how much, and the evidence suggests they are going up less now than before Obamacare.
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    • brooks85
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      • 01-05-09
      • 44709

      #72
      Originally posted by unde0087
      So pre Obamacare, cheaper insurance and you could pick whatever insurer, post Obamacare prices sky rocket, options limited, and penalty for not having insurance.

      And you believe Obamacare had no affect on market? Hmmmmm, looks pretty evident what the problem is to me but to each there own
      not to mention more than one health insurance CEO on record saying obamacare is the problem. Companies are not going to leave a profitable market place. Dante doesn't know a damn thing about economics and tat isn't an exaggeration.

      He could certainly beat rkelly in running a lemonade stand but that is about it.
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      • dante1
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        • 10-31-05
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        #73
        Originally posted by Greget
        The title says premiums going up 50% NATIONWIDE

        That's a lie.

        having a conversation with brooks is pure folly my friend. you know this, I know this, everybody knows this. the guy is a bully with a deep inferiority complex. why is he so critical of just about everybody, it is because he knows his limits and like a 4th grade special needs student he has to belittle with the idea he builds himself up.

        he knows almost nothing about almost everything and it has ben proven over and over and over. attempting a conversation with him is ludicrous, simply belittle him.
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        • dante1
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          • 10-31-05
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          #74
          Originally posted by brooks85
          not to mention more than one health insurance CEO on record saying obamacare is the problem. Companies are not going to leave a profitable market place. Dante doesn't know a damn thing about economics and tat isn't an exaggeration.

          He could certainly beat rkelly in running a lemonade stand but that is about it.


          please show us this.
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          • dante1
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            • 10-31-05
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            #75
            Originally posted by brooks85
            not to mention more than one health insurance CEO on record saying obamacare is the problem. Companies are not going to leave a profitable market place. Dante doesn't know a damn thing about economics and tat isn't an exaggeration.

            He could certainly beat rkelly in running a lemonade stand but that is about it.


            well, I know the definition of economics, and without looking it up. What is your definition of Econ?
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            • brooks85
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              • 01-05-09
              • 44709

              #76
              ^you didn't know what a command system was so cut the shit. You don't know a damn thing about economics.


              Originally posted by dante1
              please show us this.
              show you something I made a thread on and is months-old news... you truly are a liberal... ignorant as shit about anything relatively important

              could you embarrass yourself any harder? lets find out


              stop running...


              Originally posted by brooks85
              np but you know the deal. You were caught being an idiot and/or lying. It was proven and you embarrassed yourself trying to hide from it. Time to own up first as the terms were clearly stated.





              and even more comical considering the news today... hilarious how you embarrass yourself
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              • dante1
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                • 10-31-05
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                #77
                You said I know nothing about econ. I replied I know the definition of econ without looking it up. Then I asked you for your definition of econ and you did not answer.

                What is your definition of economics, did you have enough time to look it up.

                We are waiting.
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                • dante1
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                  #78
                  anybody that truly knows the definition of economics can define it in one word. What is that word?
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                  • brooks85
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                    • 01-05-09
                    • 44709

                    #79
                    Originally posted by dante1
                    You said I know nothing about econ. I replied I know the definition of econ without looking it up. Then I asked you for your definition of econ and you did not answer.

                    What is your definition of economics, did you have enough time to look it up.

                    We are waiting.


                    and you still wouldn't know anything about economics but I'm glad you're acknowledging all you know is the definition.. lol think before you post unless you're turning a corner like rkelly and admitting you're ignorant as hell(we already know)
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                    • grease lightnin
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                      • 10-01-12
                      • 16015

                      #80
                      Brooks you ruin every thread you enter because you add absolutely nothing of value to the debate. This place would be much better off without you. Take a fuggin hike, would ya?
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                      • brooks85
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                        • 01-05-09
                        • 44709

                        #81
                        Originally posted by grease lightnin
                        Brooks you ruin every thread you enter because you add absolutely nothing of value to the debate. This place would be much better off without you. Take a fuggin hike, would ya?


                        so the ignorant can form up bs in their head and pretend to be moderates?

                        nope grease, find another forum
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                        • brooks85
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                          • 01-05-09
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                          #82
                          lol

                          "you don't know anything about mathematics"

                          dante: "oh yeah, I know the definition!"


                          what a moron


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                          • JIBBBY
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                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83686

                            #83
                            Brooks loves America and wants to make it better..

                            He voices his opinion on this forum and makes sense!!!! Keep doing your thing Brooks...
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                            • dante1
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                              #84
                              Originally posted by brooks85
                              and you still wouldn't know anything about economics but I'm glad you're acknowledging all you know is the definition.. lol think before you post unless you're turning a corner like rkelly and admitting you're ignorant as hell(we already know)


                              brooks, you do not know the definition of economics or anything else about econ. You are a phony and every single person in this forum knows you are a phony. Whenever you tangle horns with me I ask you a political question or a simple definition and you come up with nothing. Every time brooks. You are a phony my friend.

                              funny thing is not very long ago I told you and others the definition of econ and also I believe explained the difference between socialism/communism something I am sure you also don't know. You are just a fake mr brooks.
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                              • Buffalo Nickle
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                                • 11-12-14
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by brooks85
                                I'm still laughing at you calling Qatar civilized and not knowing the difference between native and Native American. The kind of stupid I see on this forum all the time.
                                I am sorry Brooks, this is not an opportunity for you to show off your autodidactic learning on Qatar. You will try to squeeze it into any thread. I have already apologized to you for laughing at you about your assumption that anyone that using the term "white man" must be a Native American.
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                                • unde0087
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                                  • 03-27-08
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Greget
                                  No actually the opposite is true. Before Obamacare many people couldn't even get health insurance because of prices, preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, etc...

                                  Premiums are going up, they always go up, the question is how much, and the evidence suggests they are going up less now than before Obamacare.
                                  I don't know what you are smoking but the insurance many people had pre Obamacare was no longer available as soon as his shit plan went into affect. You know that health care plan Obama stood there telling us all no one would have to change companies and that everything would remain the same for already insured people? Then a month later all those people's affordable plans they had for years is all of a sudden no longer an option. Then its either take this 20% increase or pay a penalty. That was a direct result from Obamacare. Without Obamacare people would still have the same fukin plan as they did before without all the hassle and we wouldn't even be talking about this but drink the coolaid. You can't tell me this didn't happen because my whole family and their families were fuked over by this clown
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                                  • alling
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                                    • 05-13-10
                                    • 1405

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                    No one force you to get Obamacare...get Insurance outside your state exchange like everyone else
                                    huh? everyone's insurance has skyrocket since the scam known as obamacare passed.
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                                    • brooks85
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                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 44709

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by dante1



                                      brooks, you do not know the definition of economics or anything else about econ. You are a phony and every single person in this forum knows you are a phony. Whenever you tangle horns with me I ask you a political question or a simple definition and you come up with nothing. Every time brooks. You are a phony my friend.

                                      funny thing is not very long ago I told you and others the definition of econ and also I believe explained the difference between socialism/communism something I am sure you also don't know. You are just a fake mr brooks.

                                      dante grasping for straws now.

                                      Stop running dante.



                                      Originally posted by Buffalo Nickle

                                      I am sorry Brooks, this is not an opportunity for you to show off your autodidactic learning on Qatar. You will try to squeeze it into any thread. I have already apologized to you for laughing at you about your assumption that anyone that using the term "white man" must be a Native American.

                                      very transparent. I'd say try harder to deflect from your embarrassment but I know this is the best ya got.
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                                      • dante1
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                                        • 10-31-05
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                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by brooks85
                                        lol

                                        "you don't know anything about mathematics"

                                        dante: "oh yeah, I know the definition!"


                                        what a moron




                                        name calling is all you got my friend.

                                        two questions I asked you today and I got no answers. first tell me the one victory the conservatives earned in 50 years? Nothing from you. Next, a simple definition of econ? Nothing from you. You are even too afraid to look it up and present an answer knowing that I will in all probability ask you another question about your bogus answer. Don't you realize brooks that almost all know you are a phony.

                                        Okay my friend I will let you off the hook again, and again without one single legitimate answer.
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                                        • brooks85
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                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 44709

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by dante1
                                          name calling is all you got my friend.

                                          two questions I asked you today and I got no answers. first tell me the one victory the conservatives earned in 50 years? Nothing from you. Next, a simple definition of econ? Nothing from you. You are even too afraid to look it up and present an answer knowing that I will in all probability ask you another question about your bogus answer. Don't you realize brooks that almost all know you are a phony.

                                          Okay my friend I will let you off the hook again, and again without one single legitimate answer.


                                          yes, saying it is hot or cold outside is name calling too huh?


                                          moron


                                          you're an idiot dante and that isn't name calling. Grow up. Stop running while you're at it. You know what you have to do to come out of retirement.
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                                          • dante1
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                                            • 10-31-05
                                            • 38647

                                            #91
                                            btw, and I should not do this because I hate teaching you idiots anything. but it is the study of how to overcome scarcity. In other words brooks it is how to answer the age long problem of...unlimited wants and limited resources. Of course, you don't have a clue what any of this means.

                                            okay bud you have the floor for the rest of the evening.
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                                            • brooks85
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                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 44709

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by dante1
                                              btw, and I should not do this because I hate teaching you idiots anything. but it is the study of how to overcome scarcity. In other words brooks it is how to answer the age long problem of...unlimited wants and limited resources. Of course, you don't have a clue what any of this means.

                                              okay bud you have the floor for the rest of the evening.
                                              lol again, you don't know anything about economics dante

                                              you're too stupid to realize it but you prove it everyday of your life


                                              those who can, do; those who can't, teach.


                                              then there is dante who doesn't even know the correct information to teach. Liberal education system at it's finest.
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                                              • Buffalo Nickle
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                                                #93
                                                [QUOTE=brooks85;26454078}very transparent. I'd say try harder to deflect from your embarrassment but I know this is the best ya got.[/QUOTE]

                                                I have already given you credit for Trumping me on the fact that Qataris are less educated than West Virginians because Americans have won Noble Prizes. All you ever want to do is throw it in my face. Go ahead and take another victory lap. It is an achievement for the self educated. The rest of us just aren't that interested in Qatar though and there really is no point in bringing it up related to ObamaCare.
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                                                • brooks85
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                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 44709

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Buffalo Nickle
                                                  I have already given you credit for Trumping me on the fact that Qataris are less educated than West Virginians because Americans have won more Noble Prizes. All you ever want to do is throw it in my face. Go ahead and take another victory lap. It is an achievement for the self educated. The rest of us just aren't that interested in Qatar though and there really is no point in bringing it up related to ObamaCare.
                                                  again, too transparent.


                                                  and there is nothing to be said about Obamacare that I didn't tell most of these idiots 4 years ago. Also, you can't have a debate or discussion with liberals so cut the bs.
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                                                  • Buffalo Nickle
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                    again, too transparent.
                                                    Keep up your good learnin Brooks. It is gonna pay off.
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                                                    • brooks85
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                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                      • 44709

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Buffalo Nickle
                                                      Keep up your good learnin Brooks. It is gonna pay off.
                                                      yeah if I was on your method maybe one day I'll think the measure of the word civilized is how many buildings a city has... lol
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                                                      • Buffalo Nickle
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                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by brooks85
                                                        yeah if I was on your method, maybe one day I'll think the measure of the word civilized is how many buildings a city has... lol
                                                        Well, you have definitely learned the word transparent. Good work. Keep using it. You will be reading at a seventh grade level in no time with practice.
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                                                        • brooks85
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                                                          • 01-05-09
                                                          • 44709

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Buffalo Nickle
                                                          Well, you have definitely learned the word transparent. Good work. Keep using it. You will be reading at a seventh grade level in no time with practice.


                                                          is that when they tell you the number of buildings a city has to have to be "civilized?"

                                                          can you give me a hint?

                                                          over or under 20?

                                                          or is it like some of the buildings have to be so many feet tall too?

                                                          lol
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                                                          • Buffalo Nickle
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                                                            • 11-12-14
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by brooks85
                                                            is that when they tell you the number of buildings a city has to have to be "civilized?"

                                                            can you give me a hint?

                                                            over or under 20?

                                                            or is it like some of the buildings have to be so many feet tall too?

                                                            lol
                                                            I've been staying out of the political forum with the election. When I have won all my money on Clinton, I might come back and give you some time. Right now, nobody wants to hear about Qatar. I am sorry you wasted so many hours studying up on it. Spend more time on math and science even if they are "false.". You need a well rounded education even if you are teaching yourself.
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                                                            • Greget
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                                                              • 11-01-10
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                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by alling
                                                              huh? everyone's insurance has skyrocket since the scam known as obamacare passed.
                                                              Health care premiums went up 2% in 2015, the smallest increase in 50 years. You are simply uninformed.

                                                              Health inflation is at a six decade low in absolute terms. But relative to general inflation we have seen two other times when "excess" health inflation has actually been lower than it is today. In both cases, "excess" health inflation quickly surged within a year or two to very high levels. No one hopes this will happen again, but there are some things to worry about. But even if we tame health inflation, this is no guarantee we have controlled health spending. Five-and-a-half years into Obamacare we still face the same excess growth in health spending as we did before Obamacare despite record low medical price inflation. If Obamacare is going to bend the cost curve, it still has a long way to go.


                                                              Healthcare Inflation Reaches Six Decade Low--What Caused It? Will It Continue?

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                                                              • Greget
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                                                                • 11-01-10
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                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Buffalo Nickle
                                                                I've been staying out of the political forum with the election. When I have won all my money on Clinton, I might come back and give you some time. Right now, nobody wants to hear about Qatar. I am sorry you wasted so many hours studying up on it. Spend more time on math and science.
                                                                Brooks says he has a "science" degree, i'm sure he is already highly edumacated in all the sciences.
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                                                                • Buffalo Nickle
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Greget
                                                                  Brooks says he has a "science" degree, i'm sure he is already highly edumacated in all the sciences.
                                                                  He took a field trip to the Creation Museum and they have him a certificate and he thinks it is a diploma.
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                                                                  • brooks85
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                                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                                    • 44709

                                                                    #103
                                                                    ^again, the idiot who thinks Qatar is civilized and doesn't know the difference between native and Native making jokes... lol pathetic

                                                                    Originally posted by Buffalo Nickle

                                                                    I've been staying out of the political forum with the election. When I have won all my money on Clinton, I might come back and give you some time. Right now, nobody wants to hear about Qatar. I am sorry you wasted so many hours studying up on it. Spend more time on math and science even if they are "false.". You need a well rounded education even if you are teaching yourself.


                                                                    and when you lose you'll stay away like the coward you are. Very transparent.


                                                                    Originally posted by Greget

                                                                    Brooks says he has a "science" degree, i'm sure he is already highly edumacated in all the sciences.


                                                                    lol the desperation


                                                                    like I said greget, if you don't change you'll be the next khicks
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                                                                    • Buffalo Nickle
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                      and when you lose you'll stay away like the coward you are. Very transparent
                                                                      There is that word again. You are getting the hang of it. Let's move to another one and see if you can still remember it next week.
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                                                                      • brooks85
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                                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                                        • 44709

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by Buffalo Nickle
                                                                        There is that word again. You are getting the hang of it. Let's move to another one and see if you can still remember it next week.


                                                                        oh I can see that one bothers you lol... hilarious but makes sense I'd imagine. Cowards hate being seen in the light.
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