Derrick Rose vs Lebron: More Talented?

[King_Bookie]

LMAO at people putting AI and Rose in the same breath as Lebron and CP3.

[NBA Hero]

LMAO at people putting AI and Rose in the same breath as Lebron and CP3.

that about said everything.

[seaborneq]

I have to watch Eric Gordon more, I saw him quite a bit at IU and he was not cat quick in college. Never seemed to be the best athlete on the floor either. I have to get the Clipps season package.

[yisman]

Chris Paul is better now than Iverson ever was.

[yisman]

i gotta compare iverson to marbury, they both are scorers pretending to be a point guard.

and they're both losers who whine if they don't get the ball all the time.

You have to cater to them, like Philly did to AI, and even then, he only played on three successful teams in his career.

If you played either guy at point guard, your team was doomed.

Iverson is one of the most overrated players in NBA history. People enamored with point totals love him, but he took more shots than anyone.

41.6% his first year
46.1% his second year (he never topped that number his entire career)
41.2% his third year
42.1% his fourth year


and he wasn't a very good three pointer shooter, either. 31.3% for his career.

I watched him slash defenses in his prime. I never considered him a top 5 player, unless you want to give him bonus points for being "small and tough".


He was never close to being the player Chris Paul is now. Chris Paul is a team player, though, so he doesn't chuck the ball up nearly as much as AI did. If all you care about is point totals, get Ricky Davis to play the point for your team.

[daggerkobe]

Rose isn't even top 15 guard right now.

Paul, Parker, Harris, Mo, Billups, Miller, Nash, Kobe, Ben Gordon, Wade, Roy, Johnson, Terry, Bron, OJ are all better.

[yisman]

oh, by the way, the truest measure of a player is how successful his teams were.

AI's first four years:

22-60
31-51
28-22
49-33

Chris Paul's first four years (in a tougher conference, to boot):

38-44
39-43
56-26
49-33


I don't know which argument is dumber: Derrick Rose > LeBron James or Allen Iverson > Chris Paul

It's close.

By the way, assist/turnover is a key stat. Guess what? Like every other important statistic, Paul dominates AI.

[csimmalavong]

this question was answered before it was asked, via common sense.

[yisman]

Rose isn't even top 15 guard right now.

Paul, Parker, Harris, Mo, Billups, Miller, Nash, Kobe, Ben Gordon, Wade, Roy, Johnson, Terry, Bron, OJ are all better.

Ummm, half those guys don't play the point.

OJ Mayo played shooting guard. Same for Brandon Roy, Kobe, Jason Terry, etc.

Unless you mean they could play the point and be better?

Disagree.

Rose is behind only the elite right now. Paul, Deron Williams, Parker, and maybe two others.

[yisman]

LOL @ Iverson pretending to be a PG. You do realize that he's spent much of his career as a SG, right? Which is where he belongs.

of course it's where he belongs. It's also where Marbury belonged. But it means that he can't defend the other team's shooting guard.

You need a big PG like Eric Snow and hope Iverson doesn't kill you too much trying to defend the other team's point guard. Or you play zone, which wasn't an option in AI's Philly years.

Also, he killed Denver and Detroit as the PG there. Detroit eventually sent him home with a fake injury.

[jsmithj88]

we kno he was a SG. but he was a PG in denver and half the time in philly. AI was a bad PG even though he would get 7 assists a nite, he kills a teams offense because he only passed when he couldnt score. hes also a poor defender no matter how many steals he gets a game.

[lightone]

Rose has 19 points in the last two games combined on 9-25 shooting and has more turnovers than assists; He has also gotten to the free throw line twice in the last 8 quarters of basketball.

[SBR Lou]

Rose has 19 points in the last two games combined on 9-25 shooting and has more turnovers than assists; He has also gotten to the free throw line twice in the last 8 quarters of basketball.

It's not how you start...

[zentiense]

Rose has already reached his peak. He's Dev Harris with a jumper -- that's it. Borderline all-star level.

He also has the skeaziest facial I've seen since Adam Morrisson.

Rose <<<< Lebron

Lebron is probably the sickest athlete we've seen in a long, long, long, long time. And he's not even close to plateauing. Wait until next year's dunk contest -- he's going to make Dwight Howard and company look like amateurs.

[Casi]

Ok this is said and done, next: Durant > Jordan?

[redbull]

no contest
James better . speed that size is amazing.
3pts from long way .
good rebounder
good leadership.

rose good player but compare with another "next" star its will be more fair
rose vs beasley ( miami rookie? )

[NBA Hero]

dudes i think its a wrap. evryone in their right mind thinks and know without any prejudice its LBJ. lets not add any more stats and facts so this thread will get lost..lets concentrate on important stuff like getting the greenGL and crunch time for teams to finish the series or claw out of their own grave

[head_strong]

2nd dumbest thread of all time after Shortstop's "Tiger Woods Is Overrated" thread....congrats

[BCaldwell32]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!R ose is a fukkin midget physically and mentally. Lebron already is the top 5 all time greats at 24.

You are on crack!!! Lebron is overrated and isn't even the best player in the league right now, that belongs to Kobe.

MICHAEL JORDAN IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE BEST PLAYER TO EVER STEP ON A COURT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ASH0479]

You are on crack!!! Lebron is overrated and isn't even the best player in the league right now, that belongs to Kobe.

MICHAEL JORDAN IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE BEST PLAYER TO EVER STEP ON A COURT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LeBron is catching Kobe quick and will be a better player within the next year or two tops...needs to work on consistancy of the jumper, but other than that, he is a friggin machine