Sportbet refusing my $8200 payout (resolved)

[jebe99]

Let's all do our part. Bash these cheating books on forums like this as much as possible.

Let's put them out of business!

[Peep]

They want him to email Sportbet from the email account he signed up with who knows how many years ago. He doesn't use that email anymore, does not remember the email password, and cannot remember his zip code from wherever he was from whenever he signed up years ago, so he can't get the password.

OK, so that is their latest request.

My advice, for what it is worth.

1) Stay calm, and call them daily. Find someone with half a brain there, have your conversations with that person and that person only. Last thing you need is CS.
2) Let them know that the person closed that e-mail, and ask them what would they like to do with the money now? Who would they like to pay it to? They do admit they should pay someone. Will they still let the original person withdraw it? And, if so, why couldn't the original person assign the funds to Justin?
3) They will be human, no one likes to be threatened, they have you hostage, it pays for you to be nice. They should give you another set of conditions. I think you will get paid.

And of course they are a shit book, but now is not the time for you to say so lol. Give respect, get respect, all that.....

GL! Been there!

[SBR_John]

Will they still let the original person withdraw it?

I would ask them to just pay the original account holder and be done with it. So transfer it back and do a normal withdraw.Settle with your bud after he receives the money.

[headgames]

Considering they allowed the transfer and allowed you to wager the money, they have clearly shown they believed the money to be yours. Therefore, I don't see why the money should return to the original account to where it came from when all parties have shown that the money no longer belongs to that person. I would hope Justin's acquaintance is honourable and there's nothing been said to suggest it would be an issue, but I have to say if I had already been paid back a debt months ago, I wouldn't be rushing to create that debt again with anyone really.

[fiveteamer]

pimike STFU already you goof.

[Justin7]

I would ask them to just pay the original account holder and be done with it. So transfer it back and do a normal withdraw.Settle with your bud after he receives the money.

If this is the resolution, I was just freerolled. I lost, and losses count. If I won, they'd just return the original balance.

[Mudcat]

Sportbet has been on a downhill slide for awhile now. As with many books, waiting several weeks for a payout is not unusual. Many books - including Sportbet and GamblersPalace - have shown they would rather shamelessly stall with any excuse they can drum up, and make themselves look like complete weasels, rather than just say the truth, "We are slow-paying right now."

I don't know if that kind of psychology is playing into this. Hopefully it is as simple as that and all that is really required is patience.

If we have all the facts here, I suspect this will be worked out. Being an SBR employee probably helps the chances. It's a shame there are so many issues that get reported that don't get this much attention and don't have an arbitrator like the General immediately jumping into action just from first sight of a thread.

I don't like to think of what all just got jumped in the complaint queue. Hopefully a lot of stuff from shantystar.

I'm not suggesting anyone is doing anything wrong. Just musing. Anyway this looks like a legit complaint so I hope it gets settled fairly.

$8200 is a huge payout for Sportbet. Even if/when you get the green light here, I can imagine all kinds of idiotic nonsense dragging on for months to get all that money as they try to get into your pocket for every last $25 fee they can.

[Dark Horse]

When Actionbet (hey, Mud! ) started pulling this crap, they were downgraded to D. And if ** is correct that 8200 is a huge payout for Sportbet, what are they doing with a B rating anyway?

[BigDaddy]

most likely more to this story than whats being told.

why play at sportbet?

should have had your buddy transfer you funds at matchbook or greek

[Mudcat]

When Actionbet (hey, Mud! ) started pulling this crap, they were downgraded to D. And if ** is correct that 8200 is a huge payout for Sportbet, what are they doing with a B rating anyway?

Yes indeed. Good old Actionbet.

I need to clarify my previous statement. First of all, I wasn't so much saying that $8200 is a make-or-break figure for Sportbet as a business - I really have no idea about that.

I was referring to cases I have observed of payouts being broken into as many tiny pieces as possible - apparently to collect as many fees as possible.

While it is true that Sportbet has had stalls and slow-pays - like so many other books these days - I was lumping them in with GamblersPalace, who are even more notorious for payout shenanigans. I thought they were sister books. But according to the Ratings Guide they are not in the same family. I thought for sure they were related. They were clones last I checked, but maybe things have changed or I misunderstood something.

Which is not to say Sportbet hasn't had payout issues all their own. Anyone using the search function can see they have. I would still expect an $8200 payout to not be a neat and tidy thing.

But sorry if I posted some bad info before.

[Stumpage]

These guys were shady in the best of times (2006-2007). Obviously, they are caring less and less about their rep at SBR, which I'm quite certain used to be a fairly high priority for this joint.

[Justin7]

Well, I spoke again with them today. They are still refusing to pay or consider anything except the obsolete email address. They also suggested I speak with their CS manager tomorrow.

[shooterman]

I have been playing at Sportbet for a couple of years and I am a good loser on their books. My one withdrawal went without incident (even though I was shocked at how expensive it was). If they do not take care of this ridiculous situation quick, I will never deposit there again. My not depositing there anymore will cost them at least 8200 within a year.

[specialedbob]

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Maybe you should try Special Ed. Bob Bookmaker instead.

[boy_gameover]

Why SBR rated Sportbet B ?

[JerseyShop101]

I'm sure Sportbet would of refused a deposit from Justin if he was upping his account balance.

What platform does Sportbet Poker use? Or is it their own?

[Immortality]

Sure is a great thing Sportet is one of the books on the MLB Moneyline contest then. SBR needs to get rid of them from contests if one of their moderators cannot even get a withdrawal from them.

[Bill Dozer]

Sportbet sent an email, the first I saw of this, to me yesterday... Nothing relevant included as to why they were holding the funds. It seems they misplaced the responsibility of validating a 3 month old withdrawal. I replied with the obvious questions. They will get the opportunity to give their side just like any other issue and hopefully this is concluded shortly.

[pimike]

Sportbet sent an email, the first I saw of this, to me today. Nothing relevant included as to why they were holding the funds. It seems they misplaced the responsibility of validating a 3 month old withdrawal. I replied with the obvious questions. They will get the opportunity to give their side just like any other dispute and hopefully this is concluded shortly.

We know Bill will get to the bottom of this

[Bill Dozer]

Yes indeed. Good old Actionbet.

I need to clarify my previous statement. First of all, I wasn't so much saying that $8200 is a make-or-break figure for Sportbet as a business - I really have no idea about that.

I was referring to cases I have observed of payouts being broken into as many tiny pieces as possible - apparently to collect as many fees as possible.

While it is true that Sportbet has had stalls and slow-pays - like so many other books these days - I was lumping them in with GamblersPalace, who are even more notorious for payout shenanigans. I thought they were sister books. But according to the Ratings Guide they are not in the same family. I thought for sure they were related. They were clones last I checked, but maybe things have changed or I misunderstood something.

Which is not to say Sportbet hasn't had payout issues all their own. Anyone using the search function can see they have. I would still expect an $8200 payout to not be a neat and tidy thing.

But sorry if I posted some bad info before.

GP piggybacks on Sportbet's wagering. The GP Group has been in the same office since 07. A couple years before that they were putting the hurt on winners.

[Bill Dozer]

Jake the lying "snake". Sportbet is a very shady sportsbook. Many threads about these crooks in years past.

Jake manhandled sharps who took their hefty bonuses back in the day. To be fair to him, after a few years of going back and fourth on disputes, he worked with us on rules and a bonus model that eliminated almost all of the typical Sportbet disputes. One of the few 180s in the industry. I think he left Sportbet close to 2 years ago.

[Bill Dozer]

We know Bill will get to the bottom of this

Hi Mike. Good to see you around.

[Justin7]

Sportbet is paying me on Monday, and waiving any fees on the payout. I consider the matter closed.

Thanks to General and Dozer for the assist, and everyone else for feedback.

[JerseyShop101]

Thats Great News! And thats whats great about SBR!

[xyz]

Glad to hear the good news. I just put funds in there days before Justin's payout problem, so this is good news for me too.

[Mudcat]

This is nice, no question, full stop.


But I really have to be a prick here. I think of all the times I see people posting about entering complaints with SBR and weeks have passed and they have no idea if their complaint is even received, let alone how anyone from SBR feels about it. And now here's this situation with one thread and people are jumping over each other to help and there are almost instant results.

I understand looking after your own. I'd probably do the same so I'm not so much criticizing that as questioning why these other situations go the way they do.



But bottom line here: good work by SBR.

[trixtrix]

can you get them to waive the fees on my sportbet w/d's too? as of now they have take 325$ in fees from me for a measly 10k w/d in the past few months. lets see, one of my w/d was 2 weeks late, one of my w/ds was 4 weeks late (which they later on changed to moneygram, who promptly lost one of the 2 transfers, altho that fckup is on ** side, so i don't personally blame them for this). canceled 4 bets on me after they accepted. put me on phone in only. put me on 250 max only. move the line 10c when i call, then move the line BACK if i refuse to bet it at new moved price.

yea, a B book for sure. i almost wish i never heard of this place despite the good luck i apparently had there..

[Peep]

Glad to hear it Justin.

Let us know when you actually have the money, this book sounds like they might be good for one last dick around before they actually pay.....

[purecarnagge]

SBR moderators getting dicked around on payouts...classic thread imo

[j0hnnyv]

who does sportbet think they are????

[pimike]

Sportbet is paying me on Monday, and waiving any fees on the payout. I consider the matter closed.

Thanks to General and Dozer for the assist, and everyone else for feedback.

SBR posters who supported you in this thread should get a cut Justin

[Justin7]

SBR posters who supported you in this thread should get a cut Justin

Ok. At the next SBR bash, drinks are on me (at the free cash bar, of course).

[pimike]

Ok. At the next SBR bash, drinks are on me (at the free cash bar, of course).

Not what I had in mind sir.

[GetRich911]

Justin u now have enough for a night with Ms.Pakistan

[The General]

Welcome Justin and thanks to Sportbet for their correspondence pertaining to the processing of the payout/withdrawal. They were trying avoid any sort of fraud according to their response. All is well that ends well.