Nash's 2014 All things MLB Talking Baseball Thread

**lovetobet** · 04-06-14, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by KawadaKicks17

Nash didn't mean to seem like I was talking down to that Giants guy yesterday, to be quite honest I took his post as doing that to me. Just because he watches a team he thinks he knows everything about them.

Anyways, do you like anything today? I'm been looking at the Padres but don't think I'm gonna actually bet them.

I'm PM'ing you to keep this out of Nash's thread but you seriously need to learn to READ and COMPREHEND.

**Ratpack** · 04-06-14, 04:35 PM

nash when you going back to seagrape it was crazy last night for the college games

**stevenash** · 04-06-14, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by Ratpack

nash when you going back to seagrape it was crazy last night for the college games

Ah, the Grape, Fairfield Ct's finest dive bar, one thing, how the hell can you concentrate on a game on TV in that sawdust gin mill?

I haven't been there since I almost killed that dude for goosing my wife, then fiancee.

Good times, good times. Had my wedding recpetion right across the street on the beach at Penfield, I like the new additon there, they spent a lot of money.

**Ratpack** · 04-07-14, 11:17 AM

yeah they have tv's EVERYWHERE in there now to make it more of a sports bar. It will be CRAZY in there for the game tonight

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 12:15 PM

LAA Angels +105 -1.5 run line over Houston Astros

Is my play of the day and I will write this bad boy up in a few minutes.
But it's my play of the day.

**AndrewMcCutchen** · 04-07-14, 12:20 PM

GL with your play of the day Mr. Nash.

My POD is OAK ML -140. May we both have profit in our near futures!

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by AndrewMcCutchen

GL with your play of the day Mr. Nash.

My POD is OAK ML -140. May we both have profit in our near futures!

Oakland is a sound play, like it.

**trobin31** · 04-07-14, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Is my play of the day and I will write this bad boy up in a few minutes.
But it's my play of the day.

Definitely like CJ Wilson to have a bounce back game. Cosart is equally capable. Are you thinking bullpens are lopsided and the game will be won between the 6th-9th inning.

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 12:41 PM

And this is why LA Angels is my play of the day

Can you haters, (you know who you are, I know who you are, some of you even make ghost accounts to come at me, it's flattering, but trust me, there are more important things to do in life) at least wait until I go on a cooler before jumping ugly on me please. Have faith, I will go on several losing streaks, be patient, OK?

Until then..............

LA Angels -1.5 runs +105 over Houston
YTD 6-2
+ 10.08 *

I understand some of you are not that enamored with CJ Wilson, I get thatm, I always liked the kid, and am expecting a complete rebound from his last start.

Not going to sugar coat this, he stunk, got hit hard in that loss to the M's.

Houston and Cosart are in a bad spot today I believe, Houston is not a good LHP hitting team for starters, and with the exception of Matty D and Altuve, who just very well be the shortest clean up hitter in the history of the game, the line up is pretty weak, Chris Carter has pop though.

I like Houston's farm system, they should be relevant in 2-3 years, but I don't think CJ Wilson woke up in a cold sweat this morning fearing this

Jonathan Villar SS
Robbie Grossman CF
Jose Altuve 2B
Jason Castro DH
Jesus Guzman LF
Chris Carter 1B
Matt Dominguez 3B
Carlos Corporan C
L.J. Hoes RF

This is the past history

C.J. Wilson Batter vs Pitching Stats

HOUSTON ASTROS CAREER STATISTICS VS. C.J. WILSON

BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS

Jose Altuve 13 3 1 0 1 2 1 2 .231 .286 .538 .824

Chris Carter 15 4 1 0 1 3 2 5 .267 .353 .533 .886

Jason Castro 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000

Carlos Corporan 18 4 1 0 1 1 0 9 .222 .222 .444 .667

Matt Dominguez 12 1 1 0 0 1 0 3 .083 .083 .167 .250

Dexter Fowler 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .333 .333 .333 .667

Robbie Grossman 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .333 .333 .333 .667

Totals 67 14 4 0 3 7 3 22 .209 .243 .403 .646

Astros start promising right hander, 23 year old Jarred Cosart.
Shut down the Yankees his first start, went five innings, no earned runs, for a few innings there was dealing.

Different situation today, tougher line up, and this start is on the road.

Expecting Trout, the best player in the game, to tee off, Pujols is swinging the bat a lot better, hell, I really think the Angels go off on the kid.
Kole Calhoun RF
Mike Trout CF
Albert Pujols 1B
Josh Hamilton DH
Raul Ibanez LF
Howie Kendrick 2B
Ian Stewart 3B
Chris Iannetta C
Erick Aybar SS
(C.J. Wilson P)

Angels, have the better pitcher, much better lineup, much better everything, I'll give Houston a run, make the betting line +105, and wager 2* on the Halo's to win by 2 or more runs.

I am looking at Cingrani also as a live dog, but the Angel play goes.

**allabout the $$$** · 04-07-14, 12:45 PM

angels are on the road

**AndrewMcCutchen** · 04-07-14, 12:46 PM

Isn't Houston at home today?

GL either way!

**SBRMAN23** · 04-07-14, 12:48 PM

I like angels even thou they are away. Like the under in cinci game both pitchers own the hitters

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by allabout the $$$

angels are on the road

I know, oops, my bad, typo
Fixing it now.

This is what I do when I rush a write up, I have brain farts.
How did I know they were on the road, and not just trying to save face?

I only bet run lines on the road.

Good eye fellas, and sorry, honest mistake

**allabout the $$$** · 04-07-14, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

I know, oops, my bad, typo
Fixing it now.

it happens your doing a good job here

**Jayvegas420** · 04-07-14, 12:50 PM

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by allabout the $$$

it happens your doing a good job here

Apprecite that, like I said from jump street, I ain't perfect, nobody is perfect, not even a perfect asshole.

**allabout the $$$** · 04-07-14, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Apprecite that, like I said from jump street, I ain't perfect, nobody is perfect, not even a perfect asshole.

i know youre not perfect your a yankees fan

coming from a life long met fan

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by allabout the $$$

i know youre not perfect your a yankees fan

coming from a life long met fan

I like Murphy, Harvey is the real deal, you guys have some pieces, get some more hitting though, I really like your 2B

**Monitor-Tan** · 04-07-14, 01:02 PM

GL Nasher, I'm on Astros FF and the OVer FF.

I think you might need to check on Astros not hitting lefties well. They hit against lefties better then righties, not a big difference between it, but ever so slightly. GL today though even though we are on opposite sides today.

**allabout the $$$** · 04-07-14, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

I like Murphy, Harvey is the real deal, you guys have some pieces, get some more hitting though, I really like your 2B

you like murphy that much? our pitching will be the real deal within the next 2 years. i dont know what to say about our hitting we have so many swing and miss guys its annoying.

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Monitor-Tan

GL Nasher, I'm on Astros FF and the OVer FF.

I think you might need to check on Astros not hitting lefties well. They hit against lefties better then righties, not a big difference between it, but ever so slightly. GL today though even though we are on opposite sides today.

Grossman does, no pop.
Altuve is legit
Barnes and Cedeno aren't with them anymore (I think)

Good news is, if I lose, you win, best of luck

Player	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	IBB	SH	SF	GDP	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	TPA	ROE	FC	Pop	k-Sw	K-Ca	Pit	Bal	Str	Fou	SkM	SkC	PO	S13	S12	S23	S2H	D13	D1H	IH	BrA	Pk
Jose Altuve	181	21	52	11	1	3	19	7	4	8	26	1	1	1	0	7	.287	.321	.409	730	192	0	8	5	19	7	641	214	427	121	39	111	43	2	4	0	1	1	2	5	13	2
Matt Dominguez	153	14	36	6	0	4	28	0	1	8	28	1	0	1	2	7	.235	.274	.353	627	165	1	0	9	21	7	593	206	387	98	46	115	12	1	6	4	0	1	1	4	8	1
Chris Carter	151	22	35	6	0	9	24	0	0	22	65	0	1	0	1	3	.232	.328	.450	778	175	0	1	4	42	23	762	302	460	125	121	127	7	2	4	1	3	1	1	1	4	0
Brandon Barnes	135	16	40	5	1	4	16	5	3	9	41	3	0	1	0	4	.296	.354	.437	791	148	1	1	5	32	9	552	190	362	104	74	89	40	2	8	4	1	1	0	7	3	1
Jason Castro	99	11	24	5	0	4	12	1	0	12	33	0	0	0	0	3	.242	.324	.414	738	111	1	0	1	25	8	477	181	296	73	75	82	6	5	5	0	0	0	1	1	1	0
J.D. Martinez	96	6	22	6	0	2	9	1	1	5	31	0	0	0	0	1	.229	.267	.354	621	101	2	1	7	27	4	389	131	258	73	64	56	9	0	3	0	1	0	1	1	3	0
Carlos Corporan	83	7	22	5	0	1	9	0	0	1	34	3	0	0	0	1	.265	.299	.361	660	87	1	1	1	26	8	328	102	226	72	58	47	6	0	1	1	0	5	0	1	1	0
Robbie Grossman	73	9	24	5	0	1	3	1	2	1	9	1	0	1	0	1	.329	.347	.438	785	76	1	4	0	3	6	229	69	160	28	13	54	13	1	3	2	2	1	0	4	1	0
Ronny Cedeno	57	10	17	5	0	1	8	1	0	4	15	0	0	1	1	0	.298	.339	.439	777	63	1	1	2	13	2	253	81	172	54	29	45	11	2	2	0	4	1	0	4	4	0
Jonathan Villar	56	9	14	2	0	1	1	4	2	7	16	0	0	2	0	1	.250	.333	.339	673	65	0	1	4	10	6	243	91	152	33	32	45	13	0	2	1	3	0	1	2	3	0
Brett Wallace	56	6	8	3	0	1	5	0	1	1	29	3	0	0	0	2	.143	.200	.250	450	60	0	1	4	21	8	238	72	166	52	48	39	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	3	0

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by allabout the $$$

you like murphy that much? our pitching will be the real deal within the next 2 years. i dont know what to say about our hitting we have so many swing and miss guys its annoying.

Murph?
Yeah, he's on that next level down from Pedroia and Cano.

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 01:23 PM

Cosart is in deep shit early here.

**AndrewMcCutchen** · 04-07-14, 01:28 PM

Nashsty start sir

**No coincidences** · 04-07-14, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Cosart is in deep shit early here.

Great start for you. He looks awful.

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Great start for you. He looks awful.

Too many walks, had a feeling this lineup bothers him, hey, it's early, I exhale when the 27th out is made, not the third one.

**InTheDrink** · 04-07-14, 03:26 PM

Nasher I know you're a Yankee guey how long can solarte keep going. He JUST missed getting his first bomb a little bit ago. When Nunez got sent down I thought it was a bad sign that he couldn't outplay solarte for the starting 3b role but this kids story is unrale

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

Nasher I know you're a Yankee guey how long can solarte keep going. He JUST missed getting his first bomb a little bit ago. When Nunez got sent down I thought it was a bad sign that he couldn't outplay solarte for the starting 3b role but this kids story is unrale

That's a good question Drinker, hard to tell if he's a flash or legit.
He's got a great eye dead red, 13 percent swing and miss rate out of the zone, and zero percent whiff/swing strilking out.
He's just as good with breaking pitches, very patient.

Can't handle the offspeed stuff, and that is the book on how you are supposed to get him out, you throw him cheese though, he'll hurt you.

If an idiot like me knows this, you would think scouts do to, since I access the same databases scouts do.

p.s. glad I talked myself off of Cingrani, looks like he might get croaked in the first inning here.

**ipaulster** · 04-07-14, 04:01 PM

Thank you for the Angels pick, Nash. Your analysis is very much appreciated.

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by ipaulster

Thank you for the Angels pick, Nash. Your analysis is very much appreciated.

Glad to help

**PAULYPOKER** · 04-07-14, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Can you haters, (you know who you are, I know who you are, some of you even make ghost accounts to come at me, it's flattering, but trust me, there are more important things to do in life) at least wait until I go on a cooler before jumping ugly on me please. Have faith, I will go on several losing streaks, be patient, OK?

Until then..............

LA Angels -1.5 runs +105 over Houston
YTD 6-2
+ 10.08 *

I understand some of you are not that enamored with CJ Wilson, I get thatm, I always liked the kid, and am expecting a complete rebound from his last start.

Not going to sugar coat this, he stunk, got hit hard in that loss to the M's.

Houston and Cosart are in a bad spot today I believe, Houston is not a good LHP hitting team for starters, and with the exception of Matty D and Altuve, who just very well be the shortest clean up hitter in the history of the game, the line up is pretty weak, Chris Carter has pop though.

I like Houston's farm system, they should be relevant in 2-3 years, but I don't think CJ Wilson woke up in a cold sweat this morning fearing this

Jonathan Villar SS
Robbie Grossman CF
Jose Altuve 2B
Jason Castro DH
Jesus Guzman LF
Chris Carter 1B
Matt Dominguez 3B
Carlos Corporan C
L.J. Hoes RF

This is the past history

C.J. Wilson Batter vs Pitching Stats

HOUSTON ASTROS CAREER STATISTICS VS. C.J. WILSON

BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS

Jose Altuve 13 3 1 0 1 2 1 2 .231 .286 .538 .824

Chris Carter 15 4 1 0 1 3 2 5 .267 .353 .533 .886

Jason Castro 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000

Carlos Corporan 18 4 1 0 1 1 0 9 .222 .222 .444 .667

Matt Dominguez 12 1 1 0 0 1 0 3 .083 .083 .167 .250

Dexter Fowler 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .333 .333 .333 .667

Robbie Grossman 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .333 .333 .333 .667

Totals 67 14 4 0 3 7 3 22 .209 .243 .403 .646

Astros start promising right hander, 23 year old Jarred Cosart.
Shut down the Yankees his first start, went five innings, no earned runs, for a few innings there was dealing.

Different situation today, tougher line up, and this start is on the road.

Expecting Trout, the best player in the game, to tee off, Pujols is swinging the bat a lot better, hell, I really think the Angels go off on the kid.
Kole Calhoun RF
Mike Trout CF
Albert Pujols 1B
Josh Hamilton DH
Raul Ibanez LF
Howie Kendrick 2B
Ian Stewart 3B
Chris Iannetta C
Erick Aybar SS
(C.J. Wilson P)

Angels, have the better pitcher, much better lineup, much better everything, I'll give Houston a run, make the betting line +105, and wager 2* on the Halo's to win by 2 or more runs.

I am looking at Cingrani also as a live dog, but the Angel play goes.

Damn!

Your plays are a win celebration from the 1st pitch on!

**stevenash** · 04-07-14, 06:15 PM

Interesting prop bets in the KC Royal game

Both teams feast off of LHP

Normally I play KC against most LHP, this one is a no play, over 8 (+100 reduced juice) is a consideration

Inclined to play Myers over Gordon
but
Inclinded to play Butler over Myers

Gordon has trouble versus Moore, Aoki hits LHP well too.

Longoria is terrific versus LHP, this is a fun game for a numbers geek guy

<small>Tampa Bay Rays at Kansas City Royals - Propositions - M.Moore & J.Vargas must start for action</small>
Mon 4/7	8601 TAM W.Myers total bases	<input id="editx" name="M1_122" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -105
8:05PM	8602 KAN A.Gordon total bases	<input id="editx" name="M2_122" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -125
Mon 4/7	8603 TAM B.Zobrist hits+runs+RBI	<input id="editx" name="M1_123" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -130
8:05PM	8604 KAN N.Aoki hits+runs+RBI	<input id="editx" name="M2_123" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +100
Mon 4/7	8605 TAM W.Myers hits+runs+RBI	<input id="editx" name="M1_124" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -115
8:05PM	8607 KAN B.Butler hits+runs+r	<input id="editx" name="M2_124" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -115
Mon 4/7	8607 TAM E.Longoria hits+runs+RBI over 2	<input id="editx" name="M1_125" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -115
8:05PM	8608 TAM E.Longoria hits+runs+RBI under 2	<input id="editx" name="M2_125" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -115
Mon 4/7	8609 TAM J.Loney hits+runs+RBI over 2	<input id="editx" name="M1_126" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +100
8:05PM	8610 TAM J.Loney hits+runs+RBI under 2	<input id="editx" name="M2_126" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -130
Mon 4/7	8611 KAN B.Butler hits+runs+RBI over 2	<input id="editx" name="M1_127" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -115
8:05PM	8612 KAN B.Butler hits+runs+RBI under 2	<input id="editx" name="M2_127" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -115

Gordon is 0 for 6 against Moore .300 + v. LHP

Butler is 2 for 5 against Moore
Butler abuses all LHP .305 across the last 3 years over 450 AB's
Myers is a .380 hitter vs. LHP and 1 for 3 against Vargas

**TankHankerous** · 04-07-14, 06:21 PM

Although numbers has a lot to do with it, checking their individual twitter accounts, social media etc, to help get an idea where their head is at... Maybe it is one of their birthdays?

**alamo** · 04-08-14, 06:14 AM

Appreciate the time answering and posting plays Steve. Your knowledge of the sport is very impressive. A career beckons post NBA

**Smoke** · 04-08-14, 07:56 AM

Nice work so far steve nash. Do you have any analyisis for todays orioles/yanks game? Thx