Official NHL Trade Deadline Thread

element1286 · 03-04-09, 04:01 PM

Looks like Carolina and Edmonton are the other teams involved Dave.

VegasDave · 03-04-09, 04:14 PM

Three Way Trade

Los Angeles Acquires:
Justin Williams (Previously on Carolina)

Carolina Acquires:
Erik Cole (Previously on Edmonton)

Edmonton Acquires:
Patrick O'Sullivan (Previously on Los Angeles)

VegasDave · 03-04-09, 04:15 PM

This is a real head scratch-er to me...

VegasDave · 03-04-09, 04:18 PM

Gamble on the Kings part... but if Justin Williams returns to 05-06 and 06-07 form, the Kings win this trade.

But I feel like we could have received more than a gamble for one of our core young players.

VegasDave · 03-04-09, 04:34 PM

After calming down and reading up on Justin Williams, this may not have been a bad trade for the Kings after all.

blittydeuce · 03-04-09, 05:13 PM

I'd be pissed if I were you dave. Ducks made bad decisions as well.

cobra_king · 03-04-09, 05:17 PM

I'm a Canes fan and I loved Cole when he played on the Championship team in 2006. But he is not the same player after busting his neck and i don't really get why they'd give up Williams for Cole. Williams is a better player. His main issue is staying healthy and that might be the reason why they gave up on him, but to be honest i'm not sure about this one. Williams, when healthy, is the best player in this deal.

tullamore · 03-04-09, 05:23 PM

I really like what the Bruins did with adding Recchi and Montador, both will provide depth, and add some more grit to this team.

element1286 · 03-04-09, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by cobra_king

I'm a Canes fan and I loved Cole when he played on the Championship team in 2006. But he is not the same player after busting his neck and i don't really get why they'd give up Williams for Cole. Williams is a better player. His main issue is staying healthy and that might be the reason why they gave up on him, but to be honest i'm not sure about this one. Williams, when healthy, is the best player in this deal.

I agree, that deal doesn't make much sense to me either.

element1286 · 03-04-09, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by tullamore

I really like what the Bruins did with adding Recchi and Montador, both will provide depth, and add some more grit to this team.

Agreed. Solid yet unspectacular moves.

VegasDave · 03-04-09, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by blittydeuce

I'd be pissed if I were you dave. Ducks made bad decisions as well.

Initially I was, but 05-06 and 06-07, Williams had some spectacular seasons. Was on pace for 66 points in 07-08 if not injured. Coming off a torn achilles, I can give a pass for 08-09...

Mostly freak injuries. If healthy he is scoring 60+ points, the Kings really didn't lose on the trade.

I'll reserve judgment and at least give the guy a chance.

VegasDave · 03-04-09, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by cobra_king

I'm a Canes fan and I loved Cole when he played on the Championship team in 2006. But he is not the same player after busting his neck and i don't really get why they'd give up Williams for Cole. Williams is a better player. His main issue is staying healthy and that might be the reason why they gave up on him, but to be honest i'm not sure about this one. Williams, when healthy, is the best player in this deal.

Carolina GM seemed upset in interview... he was just saying the Hurricanes need to make the playoffs this year, and if Williams weren't out they don't make this trade. They made it because they need someone in the lineup now.

cobra_king · 03-04-09, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Carolina GM seemed upset in interview... he was just saying the Hurricanes need to make the playoffs this year, and if Williams weren't out they don't make this trade. They made it because they need someone in the lineup now.

This type of thinking only leads you in one direction, and it's never the right direction.

element1286 · 03-04-09, 06:15 PM

Dave you should do a writeup on winners and losers.

VegasDave · 03-04-09, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by cobra_king

This type of thinking only leads you in one direction, and it's never the right direction.

Agreed. Unless the one piece is the one to put you over the top to be a cup contender (like you could argue for Calgary), it is not smart.

But they say Staal liked playing with Cole a lot and he was a great locker room guy, so while it may have been a kneejerk reaction I can somewhat understand it.

tullamore · 03-04-09, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Agreed. Unless the one piece is the one to put you over the top to be a cup contender (like you could argue for Calgary), it is not smart.

But they say Staal liked playing with Cole a lot and he was a great locker room guy, so while it may have been a kneejerk reaction I can somewhat understand it.

Cole is also a UFA after this season I believe, move my have been made to free up cap space in the offseason.

VegasDave · 03-04-09, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by element1286

Dave you should do a writeup on winners and losers.

Thanks for the interest... I was definitely considering doing something along those lines, as well as betting implications. We'll see how I'm feeling tonight/tomorrow

VegasDave · 03-04-09, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by tullamore

Cole is also a UFA after this season I believe, move my have been made to free up cap space in the offseason.

Wow, did not see this.

That's REALLY a head scratcher then. You had a great player at only a 3.5 cap hit for the next 2 years, traded for a solid young player with a 2.9 cap hit for the next 2 years, and then you trade him for a rental player?

Strange.

element1286 · 03-04-09, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Wow, did not see this.

That's REALLY a head scratcher then. You had a great player at only a 3.5 cap hit for the next 2 years, traded for a solid young player with a 2.9 cap hit for the next 2 years, and then you trade him for a rental player?

Strange.

Carolina is pretty solid cap wise, I think they can resign him. But I agree with your post.

Speeddoesntslump · 03-04-09, 06:27 PM

Was really wanting the Bruins to get Chris Pronger... He would have really sured up the blue line for them...

Anyway GO BRUINS!!!!!