Obama is INSANE How much more can we take

[buztah]

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See what i mean generous to the people and already name dropping on GREAT cabinet members!! I like the way you lead!!! and I know we all will like those gambling LAWS you pass or lack there of

That issue will fall under the jurisdiction of the new SEC chief: Hank Webber. We will wrap stock trading/shorting/wagering into one verb -- "investing" -- and such will be subject to the sagacious leadership of Chairman Webber. I will advise as needed.

[ryanXL977]

quick question, serious question

if the score is 44-10 and the backup qb comes in with 10 mins left in the 4th qrtr, would you blame the backup qb for the loss? 8 yrs of this shit and youre blaming some new guy after 1 month? he may suck, who knows, it takes more than a month to get out of this shit. when bush came into office i hoped for the best, he was not the worst governor ever, and i root for my country. not sure why you guys root against yours.

[wtf]

^ somebody block this guy

[bettilimbroke999]

What does that have to do with anything.

Third world is a cold war era relic that doesn't really describe anything.

There are places in central america as nice as the nicest parts of the USA. There are places with vast poverty. Kind of like everywhere.

In the US our poorest make around 15k a year and then qualify for another 10k in government aid, in Central America their poorest make around 2-3k a year, not very comparable poverty levels imo but anywho

BTW durito you should be banned from the US since you are so anti-US, they can ban me from Mexico i dont care I think that place is a scumhole, but since you think Central America and US are identical do us a favor and stay in Cent America, any people visiting the US should have to bow down to the US flag and kiss the ground for 15 mins before they are allowed in the greatest country on earth

[smarmy]

i am sure the cost of the war is CHUMP CHANGE compared to what it cost to bail out AIG and their butt buddies

Heard today that the Iraq war wasn't even budgeted! They were spending from the hip to keep that lie propogated. Add that to the trillion $$ budget deficit and not only Obama, but the next two presidents at least.

[smarmy]

quick question, serious question

if the score is 44-10 and the backup qb comes in with 10 mins left in the 4th qrtr, would you blame the backup qb for the loss? 8 yrs of this shit and youre blaming some new guy after 1 month? he may suck, who knows, it takes more than a month to get out of this shit. when bush came into office i hoped for the best, he was not the worst governor ever, and i root for my country. not sure why you guys root against yours.

best post of this thread.

[curious]

It's hard to believe how much crap Obama is getting. He's been on the job for what, a month? It will take him four years to clean up the Bush mess.

So wasting a trillion dollars on worthless left wing pipe dreams helps clean up the "Bush mess" how?

[curious]

quick question, serious question

if the score is 44-10 and the backup qb comes in with 10 mins left in the 4th qrtr, would you blame the backup qb for the loss? 8 yrs of this shit and youre blaming some new guy after 1 month? he may suck, who knows, it takes more than a month to get out of this shit. when bush came into office i hoped for the best, he was not the worst governor ever, and i root for my country. not sure why you guys root against yours.

Yes but if the backup qb comes into the game and immediately fumbles the ball and then gets the ball back and fumbles it again and then gets the ball back and fumbles it again. Then I would want that idiot out of there.

We are against Obama because he is doing nothing but shooting his mouth off and giving leftists money to the tune of 1 TRILLION dollars for their pet social engineering programs but he is doing NOTHING to deal with:
1. Energy
2. Budget deficits
3. Burdensome tax structure
4. Immigration
5. Banking system holding trillions of dollars of worthless assets

He needs to stop being a left wing demagogue and start actually trying to do something about some of this shit.

I don't care if he has been in office for five minutes of five centuries what he is doing is making things worse.

[curious]

best post of this thread.

I just love it how you left wing idiots always jump to completely irrelevant analogies to make your points.

[jackpot269]

In the US our poorest make around 15k a year and then qualify for another 10k in government aid, in Central America their poorest make around 2-3k a year, not very comparable poverty levels imo but anywho

BTW durito you should be banned from the US since you are so anti-US, they can ban me from Mexico i dont care I think that place is a scumhole, but since you think Central America and US are identical do us a favor and stay in Cent America, any people visiting the US should have to bow down to the US flag and kiss the ground for 15 mins before they are allowed in the greatest country on earth

Half of the worlds population lives on $2200.00 a year or less !!!

[durito]

In the US our poorest make around 15k a year and then qualify for another 10k in government aid, in Central America their poorest make around 2-3k a year, not very comparable poverty levels imo but anywho

BTW durito you should be banned from the US since you are so anti-US, they can ban me from Mexico i dont care I think that place is a scumhole, but since you think Central America and US are identical do us a favor and stay in Cent America, any people visiting the US should have to bow down to the US flag and kiss the ground for 15 mins before they are allowed in the greatest country on earth

If the US would like to stop charging me $30,000 in taxes a year, I'd happily never set foot inside again.

[Dbldown11]

Curious It's your OPINION that what Obama is doing won't work. There are A LOT of people who believe it will work. Stop thinking you're so righteous and everything you say is true. You do a good job of passing your opinions off as facts, but the truth is they are just that....opinions.

[curious]

Curious It's your OPINION that what Obama is doing won't work. There are A LOT of people who believe it will work. Stop thinking you're so righteous and everything you say is true. You do a good job of passing your opinions off as facts, but the truth is they are just that....opinions.

Please explain to me how giving trillions of dollars away on social engineering projects fixes any of these problems:
1. Energy policies that create artificial energy shortages and do nothing to end our dependence on MidEast oil? Energy policies that do nothing to get us to alternative sources like wind/solar/hydro, etc.
2. 2 million foreclosures a year
3. Trade imbalances
4. Millions of jobs being driven overseas by insane tax and regulatory burdens
5. Budget deficits in the tens of trillions of $.
6. An education system that is on the level of a 3rd world country
7. health care costs that are spiraling out of control
8. Millions of people with no access to health care
9. A burdensome tax code that depresses investment and innovation
10. A financial system on the verge of collapse due to trillions of dollars of worthless assets being shown on the books as having value.

Tell me how the Obama plan addresses any of this?

[brooks85]

i havent read anything in this thread, but did people actually "believe" the things Obama was saying during his election run? Do people actually believe anything a potential electee says, especially on the election campaign?

Ask me what i think of him in 4 years or 8 years. Even then it wont matter, because in 100years our kids kids kids will be learning about the mistakes we made and courses of action we talked about but never indulged to the solve the problem. Hindsight is 20/20 right?

Our country(other countries and private sector investors) is like a game of jenga,so much crap is stacked on top of eachother and so dependent on eachother(example how china's economy correlates to american buying habits) so that every action has multiple reactions, making it essentially impossible to go on forever pulling one block out at a time, until it all crumbles and we start over.(man i hope i see that day, be a true day in history)

The next time I will truly be interested in a president is when his motto is "get your shit together, pay your taxes and buy some ****ing stocks."(kinda like the "ask not what you country can you do for you" idea) Even with the economic events people are still going out to the movies, out to eat, out shopping, out to sporting events. Im all for keeping the countries morale high, one individual at a time, but their comes when you have stop spending money and save it, and investing is the right time. Even sports betting im sure. They say 90% of people dont win, well I wonder how much of my money went towards paying of that guys Credit card advance.

Even when it comes down to, once rudimentary techniques, growing food most people would fail at that. Now we have 350+ million people in this country, so many of which, lives literally depend on buying food from huge chains because they can only afford what is the most cost friendly(usually wal-mart.) This is just one commodity as an example, the most important I would think. And, with the forecast of a huge global food shortage projected in the next 10-15 years(mainly due to increase in ethanol demands and, of course, mouths to feed) the need for people to become more self-sufficent is urgent.

[smarmy]

Please explain to me how giving trillions of dollars away on social engineering projects fixes any of these problems:
1. Energy policies that create artificial energy shortages and do nothing to end our dependence on MidEast oil? Energy policies that do nothing to get us to alternative sources like wind/solar/hydro, etc.
2. 2 million foreclosures a year
3. Trade imbalances
4. Millions of jobs being driven overseas by insane tax and regulatory burdens
5. Budget deficits in the tens of trillions of $.
6. An education system that is on the level of a 3rd world country
7. health care costs that are spiraling out of control
8. Millions of people with no access to health care
9. A burdensome tax code that depresses investment and innovation
10. A financial system on the verge of collapse due to trillions of dollars of worthless assets being shown on the books as having value.

Tell me how the Obama plan addresses any of this?

Well, what are your views on how these points should be addressed?

Really, pop a lude and relax for a while. That is quite a list that you've thrust upon him. Do you really think that anyone could solve all of those problems in a month?

Hey, stock market is up today.

[curious]

Well, what are your views on how these points should be addressed?

Really, pop a lude and relax for a while. That is quite a list that you've thrust upon him. Do you really think that anyone could solve all of those problems in a month?

Hey, stock market is up today.

I posted my plan in other threads. Just do a search.

Yes, that is quite a list. So, unless a person is VERY competent and willing to take the world on their shoulders they should keep their mouth shut and not make promises based on hot air.

No, I don't think the problems can be solved in a month. BUT, Obama is squandering his mandate to tackle these problems and throwing away 1 Trillion dollars that could have been used to start tackling these problems and these problems are not even on the list.

You don't see that as a big problem?

What I would expect from someone who is competent is that after one month they can articulate the problems and articulate some strategy to start dealing with them. Obama has done and can do neither.

No, I won't take drugs in order to calm down and chill out. Our country is in peril and we have a loud mouth blowhard at the helm who could not even LIST the problems let alone put real plans in place to solve them.

Oh, and give me 1 month and a decent sized staff and I could give you a detailed plan that would explain how to fix all these problems. Plus a simulation model that would predict the effect of instituting that plan. granted we will need to take over Cuba so we can get all the loud mouthed liberal elitists out of our way to start putting the plan in place but that is a sacrifice we are willing to make.

[curious]

i havent read anything in this thread, but did people actually "believe" the things Obama was saying during his election run? Do people actually believe anything a potential electee says, especially on the election campaign?

Ask me what i think of him in 4 years or 8 years. Even then it wont matter, because in 100years our kids kids kids will be learning about the mistakes we made and courses of action we talked about but never indulged to the solve the problem. Hindsight is 20/20 right?

Our country(other countries and private sector investors) is like a game of jenga,so much crap is stacked on top of eachother and so dependent on eachother(example how china's economy correlates to american buying habits) so that every action has multiple reactions, making it essentially impossible to go on forever pulling one block out at a time, until it all crumbles and we start over.(man i hope i see that day, be a true day in history)

The next time I will truly be interested in a president is when his motto is "get your shit together, pay your taxes and buy some ****ing stocks."(kinda like the "ask not what you country can you do for you" idea) Even with the economic events people are still going out to the movies, out to eat, out shopping, out to sporting events. Im all for keeping the countries morale high, one individual at a time, but their comes when you have stop spending money and save it, and investing is the right time. Even sports betting im sure. They say 90% of people dont win, well I wonder how much of my money went towards paying of that guys Credit card advance.

Even when it comes down to, once rudimentary techniques, growing food most people would fail at that. Now we have 350+ million people in this country, so many of which, lives literally depend on buying food from huge chains because they can only afford what is the most cost friendly(usually wal-mart.) This is just one commodity as an example, the most important I would think. And, with the forecast of a huge global food shortage projected in the next 10-15 years(mainly due to increase in ethanol demands and, of course, mouths to feed) the need for people to become more self-sufficent is urgent.

So you will support the America First candidate who pounds on the table and demands that we stop ****ing around and deal with our problems head on?

[smarmy]

He's not wasting 1 trillion dollars. He's giving it to the states in order to keep them from going bankrupt.

[Dbldown11]

so you will support the america first candidate who pounds on the table and demands that we stop ****ing around and deal with our problems head on?

yes 100%

[curious]

He's not wasting 1 trillion dollars. He's giving it to the states in order to keep them from going bankrupt.

They need to go bankrupt. And what do you think the states are going to do with the money? Invest it wisely? Use it for long term solutions that nurture innovation and productivity?

The states are part of the problem.

Run way government budgets are the problem. They need to be forced to live within their means.

[bettilimbroke999]

If the US would like to stop charging me $30,000 in taxes a year, I'd happily never set foot inside again.

I doubt South American countries extradite for tax evasion

[durito]

I doubt South American countries extradite for tax evasion

Perhaps not, I don't know. I know Colombia extraditites so many people to the USA per year they have a special airport for it.

I also have assets in the USA, thus I pay my taxes.

[bettilimbroke999]

Perhaps not, I don't know. I know Colombia extraditites so many people to the USA per year they have a special airport for it.

I also have assets in the USA, thus I pay my taxes.

So you pay taxes on your gambling in South America here in the US, I dont really follow but anyway I just think that people who think Mexico is so great need to realize that theres not too many Americans crawlin through the desert to get into Mexico, clearly the better country lies on this side of the fence

[Igetp2s]

On a lighter note, has anyone seen the proposal put forth by the Worker's Family Party here in NY? They want to increase affordable housing for the poor, which by their definition is making less than $240k a year, and increase taxes on the rich, which they define as making $250k+ a year. For sheer comedic value, it doesn't get much better than that.

[reno cool]

who's definition?

[BobHarvey]

Curious,

You make valid points but I'm going to come in here nightly if I have to. I'll repeat: the guy has been on the job for about a month. Give him some time. No one really knows how or if his plans are going to work. Right now it's just "the sky is falling" stuff. Give the man at least the eight years Bush got.

[curious]

Curious,

You make valid points but I'm going to come in here nightly if I have to. I'll repeat: the guy has been on the job for about a month. Give him some time. No one really knows how or if his plans are going to work. Right now it's just "the sky is falling" stuff. Give the man at least the eight years Bush got.

Sorry, but Obama has no plan, and we don't have eight years. The fact that they rushed a 1 trillion dollar bill in in such a short time frame tells you that the DemoCong have no plan.

Addressing the serious issues that our country faces, given their complexity, will take the right experts analyzing the problems and designing well thought out solutions.

The DemoCong didn't even try to do that. The people that Obama picked to be in his administration are all bureaucrats, they are not world class experts in the fields needed to help solve our problems. They are mostly a bunch of incompetents.

Throwing 1 trillion dollars onto social engineering projects is not going to address any of the complex issues facing our country.

What will happen is that the money will be gone and things will not be any different, or they will be worse, only now we will have an additional 1 trillion dollars of debt to service.

Obama is showing by his running around shooting his mouth off without actually saying anything of substance that he has no clue what to do.

Hell, he doesn't even know how to analyze the problem.

Giving Obama "time" is not going to matter. Without detailed root cause analysis and a well thought out, well developed plan that ignores politics and focuses on solving the root causes of the problems there is no chance of resolving them.

So, no, I won't give Obama time. He has already shown that he is clueless.

[andywend]

Curious, with your permission, I would like to forward that last post of yours giving you full credit for it of course.

Perhaps if your thoughts make their way across the internet, then someone in a position of power might wind up reading them and do something about it.

5 star post.

[wtf]

curious is an sbr gem

i actually look forward to his posts

on the obama front, a good looking , big mouthed lawyer was voted into office

this is what the masses wanted, if edwards was black he would have won

[chikenkiwi2]

900 million to rebuild gaza FTL

[durito]

So you pay taxes on your gambling in South America here in the US, I dont really follow but anyway I just think that people who think Mexico is so great need to realize that theres not too many Americans crawlin through the desert to get into Mexico, clearly the better country lies on this side of the fence

Your logic is horrid.

The USA is a great place to live. It's just not for me.

Mexico/Central/South America are great if you have money.

[MilfDriller]

as long there isn't trash like you, durito

[durito]

as long there isn't trash like you, durito

You mind translating this into one of the languages that I speak?

[bettilimbroke999]

Can't stand spanish only speakers in the US, where the fuk do they get off, they'll crawl through the desert when their 9 months pregnant to get here to have their babies "Americanized" for welfare and 10x wages, etc. but not a damn one of em is willin to learn English before they come, any person that cant speak English is obviously an illegal immigrant so fukin round em up and ship em back to El Salvador so they can fill up the prisons and ghettos there

[durito]

What about writing English?