I'm so tired of this piss poor defense of the BIG 12!!

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  • ZBOIZ
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    • 06-22-08
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    #141
    Originally posted by SoonerGreg
    Didn't the Saints draft a USC DT in the 1st round last year. Why would spend a high draft pick on a RB when he already has R.Bush and the Duece?
    So that leave us with only one back that we can truly rely on and thats Pierre Thomas
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    • cantgetright
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      • 03-11-08
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      #142
      Originally posted by ZBOIZ
      Like I mentioned before I will take this season with a rebuilding team coming off a National Championship

      Let me ask you a question

      When will Stoops win you guys a championship?


      What a fukkin clown. It would be nice if people knew what the hell they were talking about before they ran their dumbass mouth.
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      • SoonerGreg
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        • 10-16-08
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        #143
        Originally posted by ZBOIZ
        And dont speak of Tressel when he cant win one!
        My bad that must have been a different coach that sports a sweater vest that beat a double digit favorite Miami in 2001.
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        • ZBOIZ
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          • 06-22-08
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          #144
          Originally posted by SoonerGreg
          My bad that must have been a different coach that sports a sweater vest that beat a double digit favorite Miami in 2001.
          Back when???? 2001 ok!! and what his National Champ record 1-3 ? 1-2?

          Dont come on here talking like this man legendary!
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          • SoonerGreg
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            • 10-16-08
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            #145
            Originally posted by ZBOIZ
            Because Duece has two leg injuries and he is a liability. No one Knew if Duece was going to come back strong or not. And Reggie is a All purpose back. He not the type of back that will give you 20 carries a game. Do you watch football??
            What I do know is that the Saints already had a prolific offense with D.Brees, M.Colston, and R.Bush, and a premier OT in J.Brown. It didn't matter what D.McAllister's leg injuries were, they needed help on Defense. Hence, they drafted S.Ellis. Let me know if you want me to break down your team anymore for you.
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            • SoonerGreg
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              • 10-16-08
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              #146
              Originally posted by ZBOIZ
              Back when???? 2001 ok!! and what his National Champ record 1-3 ? 1-2?

              Dont come on here talking like this man legendary!
              Legend? When did I call him a legend? I will say he is a much better coach than Miles. I would go as far as to say Miles isn't even a top 25 coach.
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              • ZBOIZ
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                • 06-22-08
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                #147
                Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                What I do know is that the Saints already had a prolific offense with D.Brees, M.Colston, and R.Bush, and a premier OT in J.Brown. It didn't matter what D.McAllister's leg injuries were, they needed help on Defense. Hence, they drafted S.Ellis. Let me know if you want me to break down your team anymore for you.
                You dont have to break down the Saints at all!

                We have issues on both sides of the ball. Offense and defense. Yes we have bigger problems in defense but thats not what I was reffering to in my recent post that you quoted. Now about our defense we need a whole new Defensive coordinator. Our scheme is trash. Man to man in the NFL will get you killed! Thats why we always at the bottom of the league in giving up the big plays! We always put our corners on a island by them selves. Now in 2007 Payton and his staff drafted a wide reciever in Robert Meachem were we really needed corner backs. He did a poor job that day on draft day. Also last year he did address the defense with Sedrick Ellis but I did'nt think DLINE was our problem, our problem was secondary! He has not addressed that problem the way he should have.
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                • ZBOIZ
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                  • 06-22-08
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                  Legend? When did I call him a legend? I will say he is a much better coach than Miles. I would go as far as to say Miles isn't even a top 25 coach.
                  But Miles beat him!

                  If Tressel was so great then why he has his whole team returned this year and they still not in consideration for a National Championship. He did'nt even win his conference.

                  **Remember they were unerfeated last year until they met my Tigers! That whole team is back instead of Gholston
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                  • Slick D
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                    • 11-16-08
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                    Back when???? 2001 ok!! and what his National Champ record 1-3 ? 1-2?

                    Dont come on here talking like this man legendary!
                    Tressel has been to 3 NC games in the last 6 years!!! NOBODY is as successful as he is.

                    And the Buckeyes were not undefeated when they played Lsu last year. Do some research before you run that toothless redneck mouth of yours.

                    Tressel beat the sh*t out of miles ok st cowboys in the alamo bowl like 33-7 as an underdog!!!
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                    • ZBOIZ
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                      • 06-22-08
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Slick D
                      Tressel has been to 3 NC games in the last 6 years!!! NOBODY is as successful as he is.

                      And the Buckeyes were not undefeated when they played Lsu last year. Do some research before you run that toothless redneck mouth of yours.

                      Tressel beat the sh*t out of miles ok st cowboys in the alamo bowl like 33-7 as an underdog!!!
                      Oh thats right! He did loose one game! But whats his record in those National Championship games?

                      But he did'nt beat Miles in the one that counts!

                      You have to win the Championship games!!
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                      • Slick D
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                        • 11-16-08
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                        #151
                        Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                        Oh thats right! He did loose one game! But whats his record in those National Championship games?

                        But he did'nt beat Miles in the one that counts!

                        You have to win the Championship games!!
                        One more time Retard, he beat miami in 2003 for the natl championship.
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                        • ZBOIZ
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                          • 06-22-08
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                          #152
                          Originally posted by Slick D
                          One more time Retard, he beat miami in 2003 for the natl championship.
                          But Retard he been to 3 and only won 1!!!


                          How legendary is that?
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                          • SoonerGreg
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                            • 10-16-08
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                            #153
                            25 Coaches Better Than Les Miles

                            Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                            Legend? When did I call him a legend? I will say he is a much better coach than Miles. I would go as far as to say Miles isn't even a top 25 coach.
                            SEC in no particular order
                            1) Florida -Myer
                            2) Georgia - Richt
                            3) South Carolina - Spurrier
                            4) Tennessee - Fulmer (Outbound)
                            5) Tennessee - Kiffin (Inbound)
                            6) Alabama - Saban
                            7) Ole Miss - Nutt
                            8) Arkansas - Petrino
                            9)Auburn -Tuberville

                            Big XII in no particular order
                            10) Oklahoma - Stoops
                            11) Texas - Brown
                            12) Texas Tech - Leech
                            13) Oklahoma State - Gundy "Miles was forced out by Boone T Pickens"
                            14) Missouri - Pinkle
                            15) Nebraska - Pelini
                            16) Kansas - Mangino

                            Big Ten in no particular order
                            17) Ohio St. - Tressel
                            18) Penn St. - Paterno
                            19) Michigan St. - Dantonio
                            20) Wisconsin - Bielema
                            21) Michigan - Rodriguez

                            Pac 10 in no particular order
                            22) USC - Carroll
                            23) Oregon St. - Riley
                            24) Oregon - Bellotti
                            25) Arizona - Stoops
                            26) Arizona St. - Erickson
                            27) Stanford - Harbaugh
                            28) Cal - Tedford

                            I could keep going but don't feel like it anymore
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                            • dle
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                              • 11-26-08
                              • 438

                              #154
                              Tressel has actually won five championships.
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                              • Slick D
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                                • 11-16-08
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                                #155
                                1-2 in NC games is hardly disgraceful. 3x in 6 yrs, if u cant respect that..........
                                And he's probably going to another bcs game for like the 6th time in his 8 yr carreer at OSU.
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                                • ZBOIZ
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                                  • 06-22-08
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                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by dle
                                  Tressel has actually won five championships.
                                  I'm not counting 1AA
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                                  • ZBOIZ
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                                    • 06-22-08
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                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                                    SEC in no particular order
                                    1) Florida -Myer
                                    2) Georgia - Richt
                                    3) South Carolina - Spurrier
                                    4) Tennessee - Fulmer (Outbound)
                                    5) Tennessee - Kiffin (Inbound)
                                    6) Alabama - Saban
                                    7) Ole Miss - Nutt
                                    8) Arkansas - Petrino
                                    9)Auburn -Tuberville

                                    Big XII in no particular order
                                    10) Oklahoma - Stoops
                                    11) Texas - Brown
                                    12) Texas Tech - Leech
                                    13) Oklahoma State - Gundy "Miles was forced out by Boone T Pickens"
                                    14) Missouri - Pinkle
                                    15) Nebraska - Pelini
                                    16) Kansas - Mangino

                                    Big Ten in no particular order
                                    17) Ohio St. - Tressel
                                    18) Penn St. - Paterno
                                    19) Michigan St. - Dantonio
                                    20) Wisconsin - Bielema
                                    21) Michigan - Rodriguez

                                    Pac 10 in no particular order
                                    22) USC - Carroll
                                    23) Oregon St. - Riley
                                    24) Oregon - Bellotti
                                    25) Arizona - Stoops
                                    26) Arizona St. - Erickson
                                    27) Stanford - Harbaugh
                                    28) Cal - Tedford

                                    I could keep going but don't feel like it anymore


                                    You is a joke
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                                    • dle
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                                      • 11-26-08
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                                      #158
                                      Rich Rodriguez is not better than Les Miles.

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                                      • Slick D
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                                        • 11-16-08
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                                        #159
                                        Impressive Sooner greg, although i might say he's better than Rodriguez. But i think you know why I'd say that.
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                                        • SoonerGreg
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                                          • 10-16-08
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                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                          You dont have to break down the Saints at all!

                                          We have issues on both sides of the ball. Offense and defense. Yes we have bigger problems in defense but thats not what I was reffering to in my recent post that you quoted. Now about our defense we need a whole new Defensive coordinator. Our scheme is trash. Man to man in the NFL will get you killed! Thats why we always at the bottom of the league in giving up the big plays! We always put our corners on a island by them selves. Now in 2007 Payton and his staff drafted a wide reciever in Robert Meachem were we really needed corner backs. He did a poor job that day on draft day. Also last year he did address the defense with Sedrick Ellis but I did'nt think DLINE was our problem, our problem was secondary! He has not addressed that problem the way he should have.
                                          Dude,
                                          Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Chicago blitz about 75% of the time and always leave their corners on an island playing man to man. I would say they all have pretty solid defenses year in and year out.
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                                          • durito
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                                            • 07-03-06
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                                            #161
                                            Do they teach spelling in the SEC?
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                                            • Slick D
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                                              • 11-16-08
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                                              #162
                                              Wonder how happy the a.d is when miles keeps guiding you to the music city bowl for 750,000 payouts and tressel keeps hittin the 10 million dollar bowls.
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                                              • ZBOIZ
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                                                • 06-22-08
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                                                Dude,
                                                Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Chicago blitz about 75% of the time and always leave their corners on an island playing man to man. I would say they all have pretty solid defenses year in and year out.
                                                But they are blitzing. That cause the QB's to throw under a lot of pressure. The Saints dont blitz. The linebackers drop in zone coverage while the corners lock at man.



                                                The Saints hardly blitz.
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                                                • ZBOIZ
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                                                  • 06-22-08
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                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by Slick D
                                                  Wonder how happy the a.d is when miles keeps guiding you to the music city bowl for 750,000 payouts and tressel keeps hittin the 10 million dollar bowls.
                                                  Whats the point of bragging when you loosing just about everytime you go
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                                                  • Slick D
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                                                    • 11-16-08
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                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by durito
                                                    Do they teach spelling in the SEC?
                                                    S.E.C
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                                                    • SoonerGreg
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                                                      • 10-16-08
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                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                      You dont have to break down the Saints at all!

                                                      We have issues on both sides of the ball. Offense and defense. Yes we have bigger problems in defense but thats not what I was reffering to in my recent post that you quoted. Now about our defense we need a whole new Defensive coordinator. Our scheme is trash. Man to man in the NFL will get you killed! Thats why we always at the bottom of the league in giving up the big plays! We always put our corners on a island by them selves. Now in 2007 Payton and his staff drafted a wide reciever in Robert Meachem were we really needed corner backs. He did a poor job that day on draft day. Also last year he did address the defense with Sedrick Ellis but I did'nt think DLINE was our problem, our problem was secondary! He has not addressed that problem the way he should have.
                                                      In the NFL D-Line is the quickest way to improve your team's D. without push from the big men up front, any NFL QB will pick your secondary apart. NFL Defense 101
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                                                      • Slick D
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                                                        • 11-16-08
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                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                        Whats the point of bragging when you loosing just about everytime you go
                                                        I think he's 3-2 in bcs games. The point is straight cash homie!
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                                                        • SoonerGreg
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                                                          • 10-16-08
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                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by Slick D
                                                          S.E.C
                                                          Special Ed Conference
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                                                          • ZBOIZ
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                                                            • 06-22-08
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                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                                                            In the NFL D-Line is the quickest way to improve your team's D. without push from the big men up front, any NFL QB will pick your secondary apart. NFL Defense 101
                                                            Thats true but you will not get the pressure most of the time with just the front 4! You have to show blitz! And thats the difference between the Eagles and Steelers D with the Saints.

                                                            Scheming is very important in a defense, if you dont do it than most teams will line a tightend up for extra protection.
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                                                            • SoonerGreg
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                                                              • 10-16-08
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                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by donjuan
                                                              The Cornholers "best fans" thing is such a crock. In the Big 12 alone OU, Texas, and ATM without a doubt have better fans and probably pretty much everyone in the conference does too.
                                                              As a lifelong Sooner fan that has been to almost every stadium, I would rank the Big XII fans as follows:

                                                              1)Nebraska
                                                              2)Texas A&M
                                                              3)Oklahoma
                                                              4)Texas
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                                                              • SoonerGreg
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                                                                • 10-16-08
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                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                                Thats true but you will not get the pressure most of the time with just the front 4! You have to show blitz! And thats the difference between the Eagles and Steelers D with the Saints.

                                                                Scheming is very important in a defense, if you dont do it than most teams will line a tightend up for extra protection.
                                                                I understand the importance of Scheme. It doesn't matter what your scheme is if your front 4 doesn't stop the run and have the ability to put pressure on the QB. Look at the two best teams in the NFL right now......Giants and Titans. Their front 4 dominate vs the run and pass.
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                                                                • Slick D
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                                                                  • 11-16-08
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  ZBOIZ, You're face has been totally owned in this thread.
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                                                                  • ZBOIZ
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                                                                    • 06-22-08
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                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by Slick D
                                                                    ZBOIZ, You're face has been totally owned in this thread.
                                                                    I have'nt noticed
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                                                                    • Slick D
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                                                                      • 11-16-08
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                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                                      I have'nt noticed
                                                                      And that my speshul friend, is the problem.
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                                                                      • ZBOIZ
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                                                                        • 06-22-08
                                                                        • 21464

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Plain and simple the BIG 10 sucks
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