I'm so tired of this piss poor defense of the BIG 12!!

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  • ZBOIZ
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    • 06-22-08
    • 21464

    #36
    Originally posted by mmike032
    SEC=defense
    Big 12= offense
    ought to be a good matchup when they play
    It wont trust me!!!

    DEFENSE WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

    If Oklahoma plays Florida the final score would be Florida 50 to Oklahom 21!! It would be a blowout
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    • SoonerGreg
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-16-08
      • 825

      #37
      Originally posted by pokernut9999
      Look up the scores from these games

      ALA/GA 41-30
      GA/FL 49-10
      LSU/GA 52-38
      LSU/FL 51-21
      FLA/MISS 31-30

      and tell me where the D is in the SEC
      The SEC homers might bring up that awesome 3-2 defensive battle between Auburn and Mississippi St. Personally I think it is more indicative of how terrible the offense in the SEC is. Florida is the only legitimate tem in the entire conference. Alabama would finish 4th in the Big XII South.
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      • ZBOIZ
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        • 06-22-08
        • 21464

        #38
        Originally posted by SoonerGreg
        The SEC homers might bring up that awesome 3-2 defensive battle between Auburn and Mississippi St. Personally I think it is more indicative of how terrible the offense in the SEC is. Florida is the only legitimate tem in the entire conference. Alabama would finish 4th in the Big XII South.
        I guess thats why the Big 12 have'nt won a championship in like 5 years?
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        • SoonerGreg
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          • 10-16-08
          • 825

          #39
          Originally posted by ZBOIZ
          I guess thats why the Big 12 have'nt won a championship in like 5 years?
          Texas won in '05. You must have forgot after all those LSU beatdowns this year.
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          • ZBOIZ
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            • 06-22-08
            • 21464

            #40
            Originally posted by SoonerGreg
            Texas won in '05. You must have forgot after all those LSU beatdowns this year.
            I'll take the beatdowns!!! Especially after a great National Championship year!!!


            Oh yea and you a SOONER????? I guess yall will get yall azz whipped again in the Fiesta!!
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            • ZBOIZ
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              • 06-22-08
              • 21464

              #41
              Originally posted by SoonerGreg
              Texas won in '05. You must have forgot after all those LSU beatdowns this year.
              soft azz defense
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              • Wheell
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                • 01-11-07
                • 1380

                #42
                Florida > OU > Texas > Alabama.
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                • SoonerGreg
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                  • 10-16-08
                  • 825

                  #43
                  Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                  soft azz defense
                  LSU gave up 51 to Florida, 52 at home to Georgia, 31 at home to Troy , 31 at home to Ole Miss , 31 to Arkansas
                  You even let that pathetic excuse for an offense at Auburn score 21 on you vaunted stingy LSU D.
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                  • ZBOIZ
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                    • 06-22-08
                    • 21464

                    #44
                    Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                    LSU gave up 51 to Florida, 52 at home to Georgia, 31 at home to Troy , 31 at home to Ole Miss , 31 to Arkansas
                    You even let that pathetic excuse for an offense at Auburn score 21 on you vaunted stingy LSU D.
                    Like I mentioned before I will take this season with a rebuilding team coming off a National Championship

                    Let me ask you a question

                    When will Stoops win you guys a championship?
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                    • SoonerGreg
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                      • 10-16-08
                      • 825

                      #45
                      Rebuilding? LSU blows! They got lucky and won a National Championship with Les Miles using Saban's recruits. Now that Miles has to recruit his own players, LSU will be fortunate to ever play in a SEC Championship Game again.

                      By the way Stoops did win a National Championship in 2000 and Big XII Championships in 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, and 2007. You are such a bonehead!duh
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                      • nebfan
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                        • 09-13-08
                        • 16

                        #46
                        Don't even try to argue with SEC guys. The whole world knows the Big 12 is the DOMINANT conference this year except the pitiful people who live here in the south that can't see the SEC qb's are the worst collection of qb's in history. It is no coincidence that Florida, Georgia, and Alabama are the three best teams in the conference because they have the three best qb's. Oh, and by the way, none of them could start for the top three teams in the Big 12 south
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                        • SoonerGreg
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                          • 10-16-08
                          • 825

                          #47
                          Nebfan,
                          Tebow and Stafford are really good but Parker would be riding pine behind not only Bradford, McCoy, Harrell, Robinson, Griffith in the Big XII South but also Daniels, Ganz, Reisling, and Freeman in the Big XII North.
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                          • hoopster42
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                            • 02-12-08
                            • 6099

                            #48
                            Originally posted by The Seer
                            5 SEC defenses are in the top 20 scoring defenses in the country.

                            http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...erence=I-A_all
                            seer, you are better than this. the sec has 5 D's in the top 20 becoz A) their non-conf sched's are horse shit, and B) they face inept offenses in the sec every sat and the offenses are run heavy so the clock runs more, means fewer plays to defend and fewer yds

                            too easy bud, too easy
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                            • hoopster42
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                              • 02-12-08
                              • 6099

                              #49
                              Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                              Nebfan,
                              Tebow and Stafford are really good but Parker would be riding pine behind not only Bradford, McCoy, Harrell, Robinson, Griffith in the Big XII South but also Daniels, Ganz, Reisling, and Freeman in the Big XII North.
                              ahem, robert griffin of baylor

                              todd reesling of kansas

                              not griffith, not reisling

                              thank you
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                              • hoopster42
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                                • 02-12-08
                                • 6099

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Wheell
                                Florida > OU > Texas > Alabama.
                                let me fix it for you

                                florida > ou > texas > usc > alabama
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                                • dle
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 11-26-08
                                  • 438

                                  #51
                                  Texas has the 22nd ranked total defense in the country.

                                  They have played the following ranked total offenses:
                                  1. Oklahoma
                                  4. Missouri
                                  5. Texas Tech
                                  7. Oklahoma State
                                  9. Rice

                                  Keep overlooking the Longhorns. It may lose you some money in the near future.
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                                  • Slick D
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 11-16-08
                                    • 110

                                    #52
                                    Zboy, you are an absolute idiot as evidenced by your choice of an avatar. How that clueless classless dipsh*t Miles ever won the title last year amazes me to this day. The brain dead hail mary pass against Auburn when all they needed was a short fg on the last play of the game was maybe the worst coaching decision I've ever witnessed. Then losing to Arkansas late in the year and still getting an invite to the bcs champ. game with 2 losses and many more deserved teams ahead of you ! Only to have that bcs title game played in freakin Louisiana (essentially a home game) was incredible.

                                    Enjoy it dumba**, cuz the stars will never allign themselves like that for you again. Watching LSU lose AGAIN to a horrible Arkansas team on friday and watching how many retarded penalties LSU commited to give that game away, only reenforces what a poor coach Miles is and will always be. Its a downward spiral from here on out for you.
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                                    • hoopster42
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                                      • 02-12-08
                                      • 6099

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Slick D
                                      How that clueless classless dipsh*t Miles ever won the title last year amazes me to this day.
                                      please let me explain. in any other season, he does not make the bcs title game. they had 2 losses, they became the first 2-loss team in the history of college football to make the natl title game. it happened becoz there was no greatness in cfb in 2007, only mediocrity. wva, as 29 pt faves on the final day of the season, only needed to beat pitt by 1 fricken pt, and wva woulda played ohio st in the title gm. lsu backdoored their way in, one of the luckiest backdoor jobs in the history of sports. florida backing in 2006 when usc lost to ucla as 13 pt faves is another big back in job.
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                                      • bamasman47
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                                        • 11-08-08
                                        • 287

                                        #54
                                        Roll Tide Fellows!!! Go ahead and give florida the the crown in the SEC. Alabama has the best Defense in the country, you will see on saturday Dec 6th. Stop Tebow, you win the game, just like ole miss did. Alabama will hold Fla to 17 points, and win 30- 17 mark it down boys! The tide is high and its rolling on, Florida better have there life jackets ready, they will need them.
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                                        • bamasman47
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                                          • 11-08-08
                                          • 287

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                                          The SEC homers might bring up that awesome 3-2 defensive battle between Auburn and Mississippi St. Personally I think it is more indicative of how terrible the offense in the SEC is. Florida is the only legitimate tem in the entire conference. Alabama would finish 4th in the Big XII South.
                                          Dude, come on! Lay off the cough medicine. Your team lost to Texas, get over it. The Sec will win the NC like always and years to come. I know it hurts, but its true.
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                                          • bamasman47
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                                            • 11-08-08
                                            • 287

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by nebfan
                                            Don't even try to argue with SEC guys. The whole world knows the Big 12 is the DOMINANT conference this year except the pitiful people who live here in the south that can't see the SEC qb's are the worst collection of qb's in history. It is no coincidence that Florida, Georgia, and Alabama are the three best teams in the conference because they have the three best qb's. Oh, and by the way, none of them could start for the top three teams in the Big 12 south
                                            A nebraska fan is here! Wow, what a team
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                                            • dle
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 11-26-08
                                              • 438

                                              #57
                                              MNC: Texas vs. Alabama/Florida
                                              Cotton Bowl: Texas Tech vs. Ole Miss

                                              I'd give the edge to the Big XII so far.
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                                              • dle
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                                                • 11-26-08
                                                • 438

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by bamasman47
                                                A nebraska fan is here! Wow, what a team
                                                Best fans in college football.

                                                They just went 8-4, by the way. Likely heading to the Gator Bowl in what was suppose to be an absolutely atrocious year for them.
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                                                • donjuan
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                                                  • 08-29-07
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                                                  #59
                                                  Best fans in college football.
                                                  The Cornholers "best fans" thing is such a crock. In the Big 12 alone OU, Texas, and ATM without a doubt have better fans and probably pretty much everyone in the conference does too.
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                                                  • dle
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                                                    • 11-26-08
                                                    • 438

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by donjuan
                                                    The Cornholers "best fans" thing is such a crock. In the Big 12 alone OU, Texas, and ATM without a doubt have better fans and probably pretty much everyone in the conference does too.
                                                    I've traveled to all of these teams stadiums and the Nebraska fans take the cake. They are more loyal, respectful and intelligent than any other fanbase I have encountered.
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                                                    • pokernut9999
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                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                      • 12757

                                                      #61
                                                      I have been an SEC fan a long time , but I believe the Big 12 is far better this year.

                                                      Florida can hang with any of them but I believe Alabama would be a dog to the big 3.
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                                                      • james4512
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                                                        • 10-27-08
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                                                        #62
                                                        TT is overrated, Texas is a one man team, Oklahoma has a terrible defense. Its going to be funny when Ole Miss Georgia Alabama and Florida all win bowl games and the big 12 goes 2-6
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                                                        • nebfan
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                                                          • 09-13-08
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by bamasman47
                                                          A nebraska fan is here! Wow, what a team
                                                          Were you laughing when Tom Osborne and the real Huskers were hanging 50 to 60 points on the mighty SEC. If I had a twenty dollar bill for everytime I heard the comment " that option crap wouldn't work in the SEC", I wouldn't have to go to work Monday. But after about three 40 point beatdowns, all I heard here in Tennessee is I hope we don't have to play them again. Same with Florida fans. And please don't act like Bama has been a factor since what 92? Even the Vol fans quit hating Alabama because they were so pitiful.
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                                                          • RRC
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                                                            • 01-23-07
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                                                            #64
                                                            Ya ever consider that the SEC has no offense... the only good QB SEC has is Tebow. And how many points does he put up per game?

                                                            SEC's defense is not better. There's just no QB other than tebow that can produce. It'll be settled in the bowl games.

                                                            Florida is the only team that can compete with the Big12.
                                                            All other SEC teams would get mauled by Harrell, McCoy, or Bradford.


                                                            LOL "Ole Miss Georgia Alabama" ... Hilarious. No production whatsoever. They'd lose to UT or OU 2 out 10 times.
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                                                            • mmike032
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                                                              • 09-11-08
                                                              • 8905

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by RRC
                                                              Ya ever consider that the SEC has no offense... the only good QB SEC has is Tebow. And how many points does he put up per game?

                                                              SEC's defense is not better. There's just no QB other than tebow that can produce. It'll be settled in the bowl games.

                                                              Florida is the only team that can compete with the Big12.
                                                              All other SEC teams would get mauled by Harrell, McCoy, or Bradford.


                                                              LOL "Ole Miss Georgia Alabama" ... Hilarious. No production whatsoever. They'd lose to UT or OU 2 out 10 times.
                                                              Matt Stafford ring a bell
                                                              I believe is a top 3 prospect for the draft this year as a junior.
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                                                              • JRS21386
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                                                                • 04-13-08
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                                                                #66
                                                                Ok here is my take.. It is no secret that the SEC is having an off year.. The usually dominant teams are down this yea. The Big 12 is having a much better year (im an SEC fan... Alabama to be exact). The SEC was 9-2 in Bowl games last year so the SEC has earned it's respect over the past decade and doesnt need anyone to discount or affirm that

                                                                The Big 10 is usually a really good conference, again they are going through a slump.

                                                                It is no secret that the SEC is known for it's defense (while not as proliferating this year) and the Big 12 is known for their offense. The two conferences matched up would create for an amazing game. One thing that i have seen that amazes me, is the Big12 Defenses hardly ever blitz, when SEC defenses will blitz 75% of a series.

                                                                There is no way for us to know who would win a game between Alabama and Texas, or Florida and Oklahoma. Alabama has the #3 defense in the nation, they are very fast, and very good, and the same goes for florida. The only reason florida scores so much is because they are the only team in the SEC that really runs a spread. When the spread is run right, it is almost unstoppable.

                                                                Let's just save the crap talk until January...
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                                                                • ZBOIZ
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                                                                  • 06-22-08
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                                                                  Rebuilding? LSU blows! They got lucky and won a National Championship with Les Miles using Saban's recruits. Now that Miles has to recruit his own players, LSU will be fortunate to ever play in a SEC Championship Game again.

                                                                  By the way Stoops did win a National Championship in 2000 and Big XII Championships in 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, and 2007. You are such a bonehead!duh
                                                                  4 years after Saban leave and Les Miles won off of Saban Talent. So I guess Saban is winning off Shula's talent huh???


                                                                  Coaching plays a huge role in Championship teams!!

                                                                  So is it Saban or Shula??? I personally think it's Saban but what you just said is Saban is winning off of Shula. Since Saban only been there for 2 years.
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                                                                  • ZBOIZ
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                                                                    • 06-22-08
                                                                    • 21464

                                                                    #68
                                                                    We will see when Florida destoys Oklahoma in the National Championship game!!
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                                                                    • JRS21386
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                                                                      • 04-13-08
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                                      4 years after Saban leave and Les Miles won off of Saban Talent. So I guess Saban is winning off Shula's talent huh???


                                                                      Coaching plays a huge role in Championship teams!!

                                                                      So is it Saban or Shula??? I personally think it's Saban but what you just said is Saban is winning off of Shula. Since Saban only been there for 2 years.
                                                                      Alabama playig 17 freshman would suport the fact that he isnt winning off Shula's talent
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                                                                      • ZBOIZ
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                                                                        • 06-22-08
                                                                        • 21464

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by JRS21386
                                                                        Alabama playig 17 freshman would suport the fact that he isnt winning off Shula's talent
                                                                        Exactly!! But when LSU won last year they were also playing with over half of Miles talent..

                                                                        But like I said I dont think it's Shula It's all Saban!
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