I'm so tired of this piss poor defense of the BIG 12!!

[JRS21386]

Well i have always thought Les Miles is a terrible coach...

It may be his talent but when a team comes off a national championship, it isn't hard to persuade talent to come to your school

[ZBOIZ]

Well i have always thought Les Miles is a terrible coach...

It may be his talent but when a team comes off a national championship, it isn't hard to persuade talent to come to your school

I love Les Miles! His record speaks for himself! But the guy have one bad year and people thinks it's the end. People tend to forget Florida lost 4 games last year and that was with Tebow! This type of stuff happens.

[JRS21386]

He won with talent... That doesn't mean he can coach.. Hell i could go out there and get the offensive coordinator to give me a play, and with the speed and agility on the field it could work, and i get credit for it!

[ZBOIZ]

He won with talent... That doesn't mean he can coach.. Hell i could go out there and get the offensive coordinator to give me a play, and with the speed and agility on the field it could work, and i get credit for it!

Calling the right plays under the right circumstances calls for a good coach. Miles is a hell of a coach. You can have a talented team but get out coached. Talent is overrated! For example Alabama does not have more talent than Florida but Saban could possibly have the best gameplan to beat them. Thats a good example of coaching vs. talent

[ZBOIZ]

He won with talent... That doesn't mean he can coach.. Hell i could go out there and get the offensive coordinator to give me a play, and with the speed and agility on the field it could work, and i get credit for it!

And this LSU team has a lot of talent this team just underachieved this year. And also they had major QB issues.

[RRC]

you guys avatar pics are ridiculous... and hilarious!

I don't think florida would destroy OU or UT. At least i hope not, a great Title game would be awesome! don't think i'll get any disagreements there. But i do think Florida will destroy Bama. whatever the spread is, i'm taking florida. should be -20 but it's gonna be -7... perfect

[JRS21386]

He has a good staff... Remember this, if you surround yourself with good people, you will be successful... His dumb calls have cost them many games too..

[ZBOIZ]

He has a good staff... Remember this, if you surround yourself with good people, you will be successful... His dumb calls have cost them many games too..

Which games it cost him??

The only game I can remember is the Alabama game in overtime. But that play was called by Crowton the offensive coordinator

[ZBOIZ]

He has a good staff... Remember this, if you surround yourself with good people, you will be successful... His dumb calls have cost them many games too..

Oh yea I forgot he also made a bad move on our staff by letting these two bumbs be our DCordinators but in a few days they will be fired

[JRS21386]

Every play is called by the coordinator.. Most head coaches are profound in one facet of the team, like offense and defense... In Saban's case its Defense... What is it for Les Miles? O Line?

[ZBOIZ]

Every play is called by the coordinator.. Most head coaches are profound in one facet of the team, like offense and defense... In Saban's case its Defense... What is it for Les Miles? O Line?

Les Miles is mostly focus on offense. He likes to run the ball and control clock. Example Jacob Hester from last year

[ZBOIZ]

Every play is called by the coordinator.. Most head coaches are profound in one facet of the team, like offense and defense... In Saban's case its Defense... What is it for Les Miles? O Line?

And not every play is called by the coordinator

[JRS21386]

Every coach wants to run the ball and control clock...

[ZBOIZ]

Every coach wants to run the ball and control clock...

Coaches say that! But it's not true!

Look at the whole Big 12 and Sean Payton

[JRS21386]

Well in the Saints case, they CANT run the ball and control clock... They don't have a running back capable of doing that apparently.. But with Big 12 i will agree...

[ZBOIZ]

Well in the Saints case, they CANT run the ball and control clock... They don't have a running back capable of doing that apparently.. But with Big 12 i will agree...

I have to disagree! If Pierre Thomas was at Denver he would be a 1000 yard rusher easily. An Offensive scheme can make players look certain ways and then when they get on another team you ask yourself why did'nt he play like that for us. It's our scheme and Sean Payton inability to run the ball.

[The Seer]

Spread teams have no running game that can control the clock because they are built to score and gain in big chunks. They don't use a fullback and run out of the I. You are either one or another. There is not enough practice time to do both and be efficient at it.

[JRS21386]

Interesting...

[ZBOIZ]

Spread teams have no running game that can control the clock because they are built to score and gain in big chunks. They don't use a fullback and run out of the I. You are either one or another. There is not enough practice time to do both and be efficient at it.

Exactly! In so many words coaches want to put points up on the board quickly, and the spread is the perfect offense until defenses realize they need 4.2 speed all over the field to stop it. And if you a coach that want to control the clock you will either run out of these formations the spread, Pistol, and the I formation! Not just the spread but multiple.

[ZBOIZ]

Thats one reason why if Florida or Alabama play a BIG12 school they can run and pass. Florida just run out the spread

[ZBOIZ]

Interesting...

I be telling people Sean Payton is a good coach but he have to stop talking about running the ball and start. He pass like 70 to 30! We want ever win a Super Bowl like that. Thats why he never drafted a running back. He thinks WR first.

My bone with him is getting us a better DC. We need a more agressive style defensive cord.

[bamasman47]

Best fans in college football.

They just went 8-4, by the way. Likely heading to the Gator Bowl in what was suppose to be an absolutely atrocious year for them.

8-4

[ZBOIZ]

Texas has the 22nd ranked total defense in the country.

They have played the following ranked total offenses:
1. Oklahoma
4. Missouri
5. Texas Tech
7. Oklahoma State
9. Rice

Keep overlooking the Longhorns. It may lose you some money in the near future.

EXACTLY!!! And were he come from???? THE SEC!

He played at Georgia!
Coached at LSU, and Auburn

[bamasman47]

I have been an SEC fan a long time , but I believe the Big 12 is far better this year.

Florida can hang with any of them but I believe Alabama would be a dog to the big 3.

Better stick to poker! lol

Big 12 spells no Defense!

[ZBOIZ]

Better stick to poker! lol

Big 12 spells no Defense!

Alabama would run wholes through them boys!!!!

They would control the clock and make sure none of the BIG 12 offenses smell much field. If you can run the ball you basically won the game.

[bamasman47]

USC would shut OU down, Bradford would be wailing for his mama by games end.

USC is outside looking in! You had your chance and got beat! USC is were they belong behind the Big 12 and SEC, they play in the pansy pac 10, lol!

[bamasman47]

Ya ever consider that the SEC has no offense... the only good QB SEC has is Tebow. And how many points does he put up per game?


LOL "Ole Miss Georgia Alabama" ... Hilarious. No production whatsoever. They'd lose to UT or OU 2 out 10 times.

Come on dude, you know that the sec will produce the N. Champion like always. I know it hurts. Save a trip to the doctor.
Take two aspirin and call me sept 2009 and MAYBE you will feel better until January 2010 when another, yes another Sec team has won the NC again. Just dont hurt yourself dude, its only football, which the south owns! ROLLTIDE

[bamasman47]

Zboy, you are an absolute idiot as evidenced by your choice of an avatar. How that clueless classless dipsh*t Miles ever won the title last year amazes me to this day. The brain dead hail mary pass against Auburn when all they needed was a short fg on the last play of the game was maybe the worst coaching decision I've ever witnessed. Then losing to Arkansas late in the year and still getting an invite to the bcs champ. game with 2 losses and many more deserved teams ahead of you ! Only to have that bcs title game played in freakin Louisiana (essentially a home game) was incredible.

Enjoy it dumba**, cuz the stars will never allign themselves like that for you again. Watching LSU lose AGAIN to a horrible Arkansas team on friday and watching how many retarded penalties LSU commited to give that game away, only reenforces what a poor coach Miles is and will always be. Its a downward spiral from here on out for you.

I wonder who your team is? , They won a national championship dummy,
Now they have to rebuild, so what! where is your team? I
bet you are a Big 10 fan.

[dle]

The offenses are really just that good in the Big XII. Look at the draft boards and you'll see how much talent the conference really has on that side of the ball. 25% of the first rounders in the 2009 draft will be from the the Big XII on the offensive side of the ball. That's absolutely insane.

I'd also like to point out that I firmly believe that Texas is the best team in the Big XII and they have the 22nd rated total defense in the nation with games played against five teams in the top ten of total offense. They would take anyone.

They lost to Texas Tech because they played the hardest four game stretch since the 1940's (four games, four week, four teams in the top 12) and came out cold at the end of the stretch 17-0 in Lubbock. They came back only to lose by a TD catch with ONE second on the clock.

This team got the shaft and I think they are easily the best team in the country. I want them in the MNC.

[ZBOIZ]

The offenses are really just that good in the Big XII. Look at the draft boards and you'll see how much talent the conference really has on that side of the ball. 25% of the first rounders in the 2009 draft will be from the the Big XII on the offensive side of the ball. That's absolutely insane.

I'd also like to point out that I firmly believe that Texas is the best team in the Big XII and they have the 22nd rated total defense in the nation with games played against five teams in the top ten of total offense. They would take anyone.

They lost to Texas Tech because they played the hardest four game stretch since the 1940's (four games, four week, four teams in the top 12) and came out cold at the end of the stretch 17-0 in Lubbock. They came back only to lose by a TD catch with ONE second on the clock.

This team got the shaft and I think they are easily the best team in the country. I want them in the MNC.

Texas is not EASILY the best. But they are good

[ZBOIZ]

But I do think that Texas should be in that title game!

[ZBOIZ]

Oklahoma will lay an egg!! Either in the BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP or NATIONAL

[dle]

But I do think that Texas should be in that title game!

So you agree (assuming OU beats Mizzou) that the SEC champ is actually playing the 2nd best Big XII team?

[The Seer]

. 25% of the first rounders in the 2009 draft will be from the the Big XII on the offensive side of the ball.

no way

[ZBOIZ]

So you agree (assuming OU beats Mizzou) that the SEC champ is actually playing the 2nd best Big XII team?

I have to agree because Texas beat Oklahoma on a neutral site.