Who will get MVP in 10-11 season. Let's see if we have any sharps here.

Andy117 · 06-08-10, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

No he wouldn't need anywhere near that if his team is 14-2 or 13-3 with 15 tds and 1000 yards he will be a candidate. End of discussion.

No, actually it'd probably go to Sanchez or a defensive player like Revis. Find an MVP with numbers like that. Good luck.

slacker00 · 06-08-10, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

never said he'll win it, just will put him in the discussion. Just like Lebron was 99 percent th eMVP this year but Kobe was still in the discussion as was Dwight Durant and Wade

To be in the MVP discussion, there must be MVP numbers.

Last season's #1 RB, Chris Johnson, had 2006 yards rushing with 16 TDs and was barely in the discussion for MVP.

The next best RB was Adrian Peterson who had 1383 yards rushing with 18 TDs on a top team and was not seriously considered in the MVP race. If Peterson couldn't get into the discussion with those kind of numbers on one of the elite NFL teams for last season, how is LT going to do it with even less production? In fact, Favre & Jared Allen got more MVP attention than Peterson, and deservedly so.

Also, no RBs got a single vote in last year's MVP race. Apparently CJs 2,000 yards rushing isn't that great anymore.

BTW, take any NBA analogy over to the NBA forum, it's a completely different sport. You might as well be talking tiddly winks.

MendozaLine · 06-08-10, 12:14 PM

Philip Rivers

Goat Milk · 06-08-10, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by slacker00

To be in the MVP discussion, there must be MVP numbers.

Last season's #1 RB, Chris Johnson, had 2006 yards rushing with 16 TDs and was barely in the discussion for MVP.

The next best RB was Adrian Peterson who had 1383 yards rushing with 18 TDs on a top team and was not seriously considered in the MVP race. If Peterson couldn't get into the discussion with those kind of numbers on one of the elite NFL teams for last season, how is LT going to do it with even less production? In fact, Favre & Jared Allen got more MVP attention than Peterson, and deservedly so.

Also, no RBs got a single vote in last year's MVP race. Apparently CJs 2,000 yards rushing isn't that great anymore.

BTW, take any NBA analogy over to the NBA forum, it's a completely different sport. You might as well be talking tiddly winks.

Why would he get MVP consideration when his team sucked? That's why I'm telling you stats don't matter as much as you think. It's about putting up very good stats but the team record is far more important.

We'll see how it goes down. Obviously you can see LT is my favorite player ever to play the game, but realistically I think Ray Rice or Aaron Rodgers will get the award.

alukk · 06-08-10, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Aaron Rogers
Tomlinson
Ray Rice

, 1st sharp has talked.

spal2811 · 06-08-10, 06:13 PM

chris johnson will hit 2000 yards again

snowball22 · 06-08-10, 06:53 PM

Pacman Jones ..................

slacker00 · 06-08-10, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by spal2811

chris johnson will hit 2000 yards again

I wouldn't doubt it. CJ is still improving, game by game. Consider the Titans started 0-6 and still almost made the playoffs by running the table. The Titans are a team on the upswing with the hotted RB in the league entering his prime.

I don't think a RB wins MVP this year, but if one does it'll be CJ. If CJ gets to 2k again, I don't know how he doesn't get it. I suppose Adrian Peterson has an outside shot, but he's gotta put up 2k and 30 TDs to do it.

Blinki · 06-09-10, 07:22 AM

I really think Rodgers should be considered

jennahazeplays · 06-09-10, 07:53 AM

drew brees again

slacker00 · 06-09-10, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by jennahazeplays

drew brees again

Again?

I guess he did win the Sporting News POY award last year, as well as the 2006 Miller Lite POY award.

But I think we're all talking about the big one, the AP MVP, which Brees has never won.

DrunkHorseplayer · 06-09-10, 09:02 AM

Adrian Peterson wins it.

madden · 06-09-10, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by john2153

A-Rod all the way.

madden · 06-09-10, 10:26 AM

Has anybody considered Matt Schaub already?
If he manages to put good numbers and win the division, which is unlikely but possible, we've got a winner.

NOLA42 · 06-09-10, 11:20 AM

Brees is money

alukk · 06-09-10, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by madden

Has anybody considered Matt Schaub already?
If he manages to put good numbers and win the division, which is unlikely but possible, we've got a winner.

I dont think hell get it.

warriorfan707 · 06-09-10, 01:26 PM

Chris Johnson

RJ89 · 06-09-10, 05:30 PM

I really like Aaron Rodgers to win it. Their offensive line should be improved, so he won't get sacked all the time and I like the teams chances to finish in the top 2 in the NFC.

With running backs Ray Rice has the best chance, but Frank Gore will be a strong sleeper. The Niners plan on running the ball more this season, and if he plays well and stays healthy (which is a big if) he will finish in the top 2 in rushing in the league. His team should be better next year and they have one of the easiest shedules in the NFL so getting a high seed is possible.

CaptainPrice · 06-09-10, 10:47 PM

Peton manning he deserves it the most

warriorfan707 · 06-09-10, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by RJ89

I really like Aaron Rodgers to win it. Their offensive line should be improved, so he won't get sacked all the time and I like the teams chances to finish in the top 2 in the NFC.

With running backs Ray Rice has the best chance, but Frank Gore will be a strong sleeper. The Niners plan on running the ball more this season, and if he plays well and stays healthy (which is a big if) he will finish in the top 2 in rushing in the league. His team should be better next year and they have one of the easiest shedules in the NFL so getting a high seed is possible.

As much as I would like to claim Gore has a chance at MVP, I just dont see it happening.

Not in the Niners new spread offense.

jcubs55 · 06-09-10, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by spal2811

chris johnson will hit 2000 yards again

definitely disagree here... virtually impossible from a physical standpoint in the NFL... RBs can't haul year after year... Coach Fisher already said he plans on cutting back on Johnson's carries for next year in order to rely on him less

netinfo · 06-10-10, 03:30 AM

Who will get MVP in 10-11 season. Let's see if we have any sharps here.

Perhaps the guy in my avatar?

I'm curious though, I looked at the MVP list, and I noticed that for the past two decades, either the position of QB or RB usually wins the MVP. I wonder why the exclusive focus on these two offensive positions in the past two decades?

I would love to see a defensive position, or if we get another offensive position, then something other than a QB or RB, like maybe a TE or WR.

netinfo

madden · 06-10-10, 11:38 AM

Well, the guy has to be a miracleman in a season to be the MOST VALUABLE player in a position other than QB or RB.
First of all, because offensive lines work as a team, and defense works as a team. A WR shares the credit for passes received with his team's QB, which also throws passes to other WR's (and TE, and RB).
RB's carry the ball. Alone. The whole team working for him to get past an entire defense. There's nothing more individual (hence relevant, or perhaps VALUABLE) than that.

I agree, though, it would be interesting to weigh all player's contributions considering their positions, but there're best defensive player awards for that. I think, though, that if a kicker misses only 1 50yd- Field Goal in an entire season, being the highest scorer of his team, winning 4 games with a < 3 point handicap, one of them overtime, blah blah... he's hands down MVP

Fitzel · 06-10-10, 11:43 AM

Aaron Rodgers or Chris Johnson.

netinfo · 06-10-10, 10:08 PM

I think, though, that if a kicker misses only 1 50yd- Field Goal in an entire season, being the highest scorer of his team, winning 4 games with a < 3 point handicap, one of them overtime, blah blah... he's hands down MVP

Yeah, a kicker like that could and should win it.

However, Gary Anderson, in 1998, had a perfect kicking season, making 35 out of 35 field goals, 59 out of 59 extra point attempts, and recording a single season record for most points scored without a touchdown (164), and still did not get the MVP for that year. So, it does seem very difficult for anyone other than a QB or RB to win the MVP.

netinfo

stealthyburrito · 06-11-10, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by alukk

, 1st sharp has talked.

those aren't bad choices at all, though rice's numbers may dip since the ravens are more balanced offensively.

slacker00 · 06-11-10, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by netinfo

Yeah, a kicker like that could and should win it.

However, Gary Anderson, in 1998, had a perfect kicking season, making 35 out of 35 field goals, 59 out of 59 extra point attempts, and recording a single season record for most points scored without a touchdown (164), and still did not get the MVP for that year. So, it does seem very difficult for anyone other than a QB or RB to win the MVP.

netinfo

In 1982 kicker Mark Moseley won NFL MVP.

Goat Milk · 06-11-10, 08:54 PM

Rivers will have no chance to win. He lost a dynamic RB, the leader and heart and sole of that team. Cromartie was an essential piece of what they did on D. Meriman seems washed up. The Chargers will win that divison probably but they will fall apart in the first round of the playoffs.

jasont · 06-11-10, 09:37 PM

I like aaron rodgers, GB should be a strong squad this year.

MyLuck888 · 06-11-10, 11:09 PM

Tomlinson is going to have a big year. 1000 yards and 20 tds

slacker00 · 06-12-10, 07:18 AM

Favre had maybe his best statistical year last year and easily good enough numbers for MVP. I expect his familiarity with the team and the peaking experience of the young supporting cast going into year #2 of the Minnesota experiment will only bolster his stats. Look out for Favre for MVP.

msec512 · 06-12-10, 08:39 AM

I think Manning has to be the favorite. Brees will be a close 2nd.

Ryangene · 06-12-10, 11:46 AM

Ap this year folks. Will lead the league in rushing and they will make the superbowl.

netinfo · 06-12-10, 05:17 PM

Rivers will have no chance to win. He lost a dynamic RB, the leader and heart and sole of that team. Cromartie was an essential piece of what they did on D. Meriman seems washed up. The Chargers will win that divison probably but they will fall apart in the first round of the playoffs.

But they drafted a nice RB in Ryan Mathews, who should be able to produce well for them. LT style of play was just not fitting very well with Norv's pass-happy style of offense, and now Rivers is the main leader of this team, since he fits very well within Norv's system. They also picked up Nathan Vasher, a good enough CB, so it isn't all that bad for San Diego.

I think that Rivers has a good chance of producing excellent numbers for this team, and could very well be in the discussion for MVP.

netinfo

Goat Milk · 06-12-10, 05:47 PM

I agree he will be in the discussion but he will not win because their offensive line still needs some work and Vasher cannot be compared to cromartie imo. Although some people might not think so, when you ask the players in the league about LT they stil say he is an elite back..

On the field, the defense has played against this guy for so long that they had to respect LT's game. You'd be a fool not to. He really opened up a lot of the passing game for Rivers last year despite what the stats show.

SD will have anotehr solid season only they will fall apart in the first round of the playoffs. That "dynasty" is slowly coming to an end, and if nothing happens this year, Gates will leave and that team will fall apart.