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  • GGRIF82
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-09-11
    • 559

    #246
    Witch one did you lose?
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    • Romanov
      SBR MVP
      • 10-08-10
      • 4137

      #247
      Originally posted by GGRIF82
      Witch one did you lose?
      Tennessee (-220) 2.2 to win 1
      St Johns (-155) 1.55 to win 1
      Arizona St (-120) 1.2 to win 1

      +.45 on the night. +23.45 since the start of this system (February 12th 2011)

      Originally posted by shaggy3000
      well done. if Idaho can come through ill have salvaged out a pretty decent night too
      I see Idaho won by 3. Nice hit man! Have you looked into web queries?
      Originally posted by ShivaBowl
      Good night! SJ dropped to -135
      Yeah I see that now. If I had run the numbers right before gametime St Johns wouldn't have been a play with that line movement. More often than not, these favorites it spits out are on the right side of the line movements.

      Originally posted by BigOrangeBrother
      Another good night Rommy....Congratulations!!
      Yep. +.45 is better than nothing.
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      • shaggy3000
        Restricted User
        • 12-29-09
        • 5801

        #248
        i have not. today is the first day ive gotten off work in 4 weeks. its been super busy but ill check it out soon. still have a bunch of stuff to do but id like to do that for baseball for sure
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        • Romanov
          SBR MVP
          • 10-08-10
          • 4137

          #249
          I hate friday games. Note the to win # for cornell equals the at risk # for Columbia

          5dimes:

          Cornell (-260) 2.6 to win 1
          Columbia (-138) 1 to win .7246
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          • Romanov
            SBR MVP
            • 10-08-10
            • 4137

            #250
            Gonna start tracking expected value for fun:

            E(x) = -.01 units
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            • shaggy3000
              Restricted User
              • 12-29-09
              • 5801

              #251
              man i just googled it. what in the hell. you think i graduated from NASA!
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              • Romanov
                SBR MVP
                • 10-08-10
                • 4137

                #252
                I don't like have an expected loss... gonna try and play around with unit sizes to get it into the positive

                edit for shag: its not that bad. download openoffice if you have a shitty excel version.
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                • shaggy3000
                  Restricted User
                  • 12-29-09
                  • 5801

                  #253
                  are you planning on doing this for baseball?
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                  • Romanov
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-08-10
                    • 4137

                    #254
                    Originally posted by shaggy3000
                    are you planning on doing this for baseball?
                    nope. not planning on it. i think I am going to tail shivabowl
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                    • shaggy3000
                      Restricted User
                      • 12-29-09
                      • 5801

                      #255
                      o didnt know Shiva had a system for it. that works. i did a lot of following people and touts last year and did alright but as im becoming a little bit better at this gambling thing i think i might make even more of my own picks this year.

                      its been going pretty well since i quit worrying about the spread
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                      • Romanov
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-08-10
                        • 4137

                        #256
                        Originally posted by shaggy3000
                        o didnt know Shiva had a system for it. that works. i did a lot of following people and touts last year and did alright but as im becoming a little bit better at this gambling thing i think i might make even more of my own picks this year. its been going pretty well since i quit worrying about the spread
                        lol yeah. just don't bet on huge MLs in ncaab. I've lost on over -700 ml's before (not with this system. I don't play over -500)
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                        • shaggy3000
                          Restricted User
                          • 12-29-09
                          • 5801

                          #257
                          like i said i lost 900 on Texas and have had a couple other huge losers. they werent the first and they damn sure wont be the last. but im going to keep playing them because they win 80% of the time and even higher with some decent homework
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                          • Romanov
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-08-10
                            • 4137

                            #258
                            Originally posted by shaggy3000
                            like i said i lost 900 on Texas and have had a couple other huge losers. they werent the first and they damn sure wont be the last. but im going to keep playing them because they win 80% of the time and even higher with some decent homework
                            if you want to have a good idea of how often a moneyline will hit:

                            (favorite ML price) / (100+favorite ML price) = FAV%

                            100/(dog ML price +100) = DOG%

                            FAV% + DOG% = TOTAL%

                            FAV% / TOTAL% = Favorite's probability to win the game
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                            • shaggy3000
                              Restricted User
                              • 12-29-09
                              • 5801

                              #259
                              i hope thats not spos to be common knowledge in the gambling world cause its news to me
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                              • Brian891
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-28-10
                                • 2049

                                #260
                                thanks for the formulas romanov. your system has been doing pretty damn well so far.
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                                • Romanov
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-08-10
                                  • 4137

                                  #261
                                  Originally posted by shaggy3000
                                  i hope thats not spos to be common knowledge in the gambling world cause its news to me
                                  Lol well use it now. If you see a ML that says a team only wins 55% of the time and you think they win 3/4, you have to ask yourself why vegas thinks the underdog is so much better than you do.

                                  Originally posted by Brian891
                                  thanks for the formulas romanov. your system has been doing pretty damn well so far.
                                  thank you man. gonna post a decimal odds and american odds example in a minute
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                                  • Romanov
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-08-10
                                    • 4137

                                    #262
                                    so right now on pinnacle cornell is -283 and brown is +250

                                    283/(283+100) = .7389
                                    100/(250+100) = .2857

                                    .7389+.2857 = 1.0246

                                    probabilities have to = 1 so...

                                    .7389/ 1.0246 = .7212 = Cornell has a 72% probability to win the game (according to Pinnacle)
                                    .2857/1.0246 = .2788 = Brown has a 28% probability to win the game (according to pinnacle)
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                                    • Romanov
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-08-10
                                      • 4137

                                      #263
                                      now for decimal odds (an easier way). for the first part, all we do instead of adding the 100's and stuff is plug the given decimal odds into 1/x

                                      cornel's decimal odds = 1.353
                                      browns = 3.5

                                      so...

                                      1/1.353 = .739
                                      1/3.5 = .2857

                                      add em up = .739+.2857 = 1.0247

                                      and divide

                                      .739/1.0247 = Cornell's prob = .7212 = 72% win
                                      .2857/1.0247 = .2788 = 28%

                                      Obviously you don't need to do both the dog and fav because you just use the rule (1-P) = P' to get the opposing probability

                                      BOL
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                                      • Romanov
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-08-10
                                        • 4137

                                        #264
                                        credit goes to Ganchrow
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                                        • shaggy3000
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 12-29-09
                                          • 5801

                                          #265
                                          you got a late night winner?
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                                          • Titan_12
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-19-11
                                            • 1186

                                            #266
                                            I thought you were dead in the water tonight but Cornell can up with the win and Columbia is now in OT (after being down by 10+ pts). Great job!
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                                            • Titan_12
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-19-11
                                              • 1186

                                              #267
                                              Second Overtime
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                                              • Romanov
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-08-10
                                                • 4137

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by shaggy3000
                                                you got a late night winner?
                                                Sorry. Nothing man.
                                                Originally posted by Titan_12
                                                I thought you were dead in the water tonight but Cornell can up with the win and Columbia is now in OT (after being down by 10+ pts). Great job!
                                                Cornell came through but Columbia died out. I suck at Fridays. I never play small-time schools except for friday (because no big schools play on friday) and I never seem to do as well. At least I didn't lose any tonight. Came out exactly even. Hopefully if you tailed you tailed the right unit sizes and came out +/- 0 as well.

                                                See you in the morning.
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                                                • BigOrangeBrother
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-10-10
                                                  • 1538

                                                  #269
                                                  Played your two picks along with GGRIF82's Elon pick for a 2-1 record for the night. I'll take it for a Friday night. Usually Fridays and Sundays are bad for me. Thanks for the plays. I'm loving your system.....look forward to your plays today.

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                                                  • sicky123
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 10-02-08
                                                    • 368

                                                    #270
                                                    Let me know about the PAC10 POM fits brother !

                                                    gl today
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                                                    • ShivaBowl
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 03-09-10
                                                      • 5133

                                                      #271
                                                      Good Luck Today Romanov
                                                      If you have the time, what do you think?
                                                      12:00 PM ET Duquesne Dukes, +3.5
                                                      1:30 PM ET Georgia Bulldogs, +4.5
                                                      2:00 PM ET Rhode Island Rams, +1
                                                      8:00 PM ET North Carolina Tar Heels, M/L
                                                      10:00 PM ET Colorado State Rams, +12
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                                                      • Romanov
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-08-10
                                                        • 4137

                                                        #272
                                                        Was having trouble with my computer. Doin the plays right now.
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                                                        • Romanov
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-08-10
                                                          • 4137

                                                          #273
                                                          3/5 plays. Let the Shit hit the fan:

                                                          Kansas State (-1250) 12.5 to win 1
                                                          Michigan State (+110) .91 to win 1
                                                          UCONN (-145) 1.45 to win 1
                                                          Mississippi St (-200) 2 to win 1
                                                          Oklahoma (-105) 1.05 to win 1
                                                          North Carolina (-115) 1.15 to win 1
                                                          Colorado (-185) 1.85 to win 1
                                                          UCLA (-130) 1.3 to win 1

                                                          Be wary if you tail. I have a feeling I am going to go up in flames today. Line movement is bad on a lot of these games. Shiva, I like UNC moneyline. George +4.5 not bad either but is it Alabama's senior day?
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                                                          • allenc85
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 03-26-10
                                                            • 403

                                                            #274
                                                            It is - but we only have 1 senior (Hines) I'd be weary going against Bama at home, they play pretty strong at home...
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                                                            • sicky123
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 10-02-08
                                                              • 368

                                                              #275
                                                              DOes UCLA fit the POM system ?
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                                                              • Romanov
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-08-10
                                                                • 4137

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by allenc85
                                                                It is - but we only have 1 senior (Hines) I'd be weary going against Bama at home, they play pretty strong at home...
                                                                Mmk. Hopefully shiva sees that. I'm not playing it but he was considering it. Thanks
                                                                Originally posted by sicky123
                                                                DOes UCLA fit the POM system ?
                                                                As of now. I locked it in because I'm not going to be around my computer at the UCLA gametime. If UCLA gets bet down to being a pk or not favored I would stay away
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                                                                • IAMWINNER
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-28-11
                                                                  • 1012

                                                                  #277
                                                                  I'm on UCLA ML for ten units (praying)
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                                                                  • Romanov
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 10-08-10
                                                                    • 4137

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by IAMWINNER
                                                                    I'm on UCLA ML for ten units (praying)
                                                                    You have 5-20% of your bankroll on an almost even money fav on the road?
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                                                                    • IAMWINNER
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-28-11
                                                                      • 1012

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Originally posted by Romanov
                                                                      You have 5-20% of your bankroll on an almost even money fav on the road?
                                                                      I know, scary. How do you feel about the UCLA game. What % do you have them winning on ML. I am killing in baseball so any money I lose I will make in baseball.
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                                                                      • Romanov
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 10-08-10
                                                                        • 4137

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by IAMWINNER
                                                                        I know, scary. How do you feel about the UCLA game. What % do you have them winning on ML. I am killing in baseball so any money I lose I will make in baseball.
                                                                        its not looking good. line mvmt and public % looks like a wsu win
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