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  • RG3ING
    SBR MVP
    • 09-14-12
    • 1622

    #246
    Originally posted by Murray Rothbard
    There is only one 12pm game and it doesn't fit the model so I will see what's good for the later games.
    Yeah I saw it didn't I don't see any that really do today as of now unless I missed one
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    • maxim79
      SBR Hustler
      • 10-02-12
      • 85

      #247
      hey fellas check the line on the cfb mich st v. northwestern game? i dont get it... seems like a suckers bet vegas is begging you to lay moeny on northwestern makes me think mich st is the play
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      • A4K
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-08-12
        • 5245

        #248
        Originally posted by Murray Rothbard
        The updates I post are just my numbers. I'm not sure what RG3's numbers are but you're right I'm taking a lot of games. I think the reason why I have been taking so many games (more than I'd really like to or should) is because, at least initially, the theory seems to work well and I feel that if I don't take a game that fits the theory, or is just outside it, I'm leaving money on the table. But you're right A4K, taking so many games can cause big swings. But when you go over the final scores to all the games with RLM so many teams seem to cover and it makes it so tempting lol.

        I'm not criticizing your work. I think you make valid points. Maybe you should examine your results to see if you can refine your theory. Also, why do you guys play the 1H and the whole game?
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        • Murray Rothbard
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-22-12
          • 698

          #249
          Originally posted by maxim79
          hey fellas check the line on the cfb mich st v. northwestern game? i dont get it... seems like a suckers bet vegas is begging you to lay moeny on northwestern makes me think mich st is the play
          Interesting. I see a lot of action on NW (72%) but yet the line keeps moving in their favor? It's weird, usually the public is heavy on the favorite and the line moves in their favor but in this case the public is heavy on the dog and the line is moving in their favor. Not sure how I would proceed with this one. Either way, I'm staying away from football. I've been on a cole streak the last few weeks in CFB so Im going to sit this week out.
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          • Murray Rothbard
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-22-12
            • 698

            #250
            Originally posted by A4K
            I'm not criticizing your work. I think you make valid points. Maybe you should examine your results to see if you can refine your theory. Also, why do you guys play the 1H and the whole game?
            Again speaking for myself here but this is my reasoning (i would like your input on this). The reason why I play both 1H and whole games is because the RLM tells me the books believe the game is going to be closer than the public imagines. However, the way I see it, I am still taking a dog meaning that more than likely they will lose the whole game and or get blown out 2H. So in order to hedge against a loss for the game I also take 1H in the hopes that I cover both but at the very least split the two and still come out on top by a little bit money wise. That is also why you will notice I bet $30 in 1H but $25 for the game.
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            • Murray Rothbard
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-22-12
              • 698

              #251
              Here are my leans for today boys.

              UMKC v Albany NY (-9) @ 9/8.5 – 230pm – 67%

              Seattle U v Virginia (-14.5) @ 13.5 – 4pm – 73%

              St Bonaventure (-6.5) v Canisius @ 3.5/3 – 4pm – 69%

              W Illinois v Evansville (-9) @ 5 – 830pm – 72%

              Samford v Memphis (-25) @ 23.5 – 8pm – 71%

              Wisc Green Bay v Nevada (-4) @ 3 – 9pm – 71%
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              • Murray Rothbard
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-22-12
                • 698

                #252
                Possible adding this to 2pm play.

                N Dakota v N Iowa (-16) @ 16 – 2pm – 62%


                ​Doesn't quite fit the system but may still take it.
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                • Murray Rothbard
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-22-12
                  • 698

                  #253
                  2PM Plays locked in:

                  UMKC +8
                  1H UMKC +4.5

                  N Dakota +16
                  1H N Dakota +8.5

                  As I did yesterday, and will more than likely continue to do the rest of the season, is risk $33/$30 for 1H plays and risk $28/$25 for the whole game. Good luck today fella's.
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                  • RG3ING
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-14-12
                    • 1622

                    #254
                    I'm gonna try all 1h plays today loCked in
                    Umkc 1h +4.5
                    North Dakota 1h +9
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                    • Murray Rothbard
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-22-12
                      • 698

                      #255
                      Originally posted by RG3ING
                      I'm gonna try all 1h plays today loCked in
                      Umkc 1h +4.5
                      North Dakota 1h +9
                      Any reasoning? I'm just curious.
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                      • RG3ING
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-14-12
                        • 1622

                        #256
                        Cause normally they keep it close in1h an blow it for game idk
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                        • shooms79
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-09-10
                          • 1105

                          #257
                          Get em Boys...thanks for the posts!
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                          • Murray Rothbard
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-22-12
                            • 698

                            #258
                            4PM Plays:

                            CANISIUS +3½
                            1H CANISIUS +1½

                            SEATTLE U +14
                            1H SEATTLE U +7½
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                            • tr4sh
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 09-06-12
                              • 311

                              #259
                              This is a very interesting post. I really like Bonnie today though but I'll tag along for a little on seattle. bol to you guys.
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                              • RG3ING
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-14-12
                                • 1622

                                #260
                                System plays Murray?? These last 2 games?? Hunting dont have time to look
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                                • Murray Rothbard
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 10-22-12
                                  • 698

                                  #261
                                  Originally posted by RG3ING
                                  System plays Murray?? These last 2 games?? Hunting dont have time to look
                                  According to my sites they are.
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                                  • RG3ING
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-14-12
                                    • 1622

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by tr4sh
                                    This is a very interesting post. I really like Bonnie today though but I'll tag along for a little on seattle. bol to you guys.
                                    What's ur reasoning for bonnie
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                                    • RG3ING
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-14-12
                                      • 1622

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by Murray Rothbard
                                      According to my sites they are.
                                      Sweet Murray I was waiting to see if he had any good trends or insight on Bonnie since he liked it.. Locked in on seattle1h waiting on Bonnie game til 358
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                                      • RG3ING
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-14-12
                                        • 1622

                                        #264
                                        Locked in
                                        Can. +1.5 1h
                                        Seattle +7.5 1h
                                        Need both of these bad come on damnit!!!!!!!
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                                        • tr4sh
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 09-06-12
                                          • 311

                                          #265
                                          Bonnie has been doing fairly well covering the spread in the last handful of games. They have a knack of getting to the free throw line and have a decent freshman and a decent bench in general coming off the bench.

                                          Along with that Cainius played against a pretty bad team (Boston University) where they needed well above average shooting % to hold them off. The 3-4 day layoff I believe will probably make them more rusty than anything at this point (my unproven theory, rest is good for old, not for young). The rest imo is the bigger factor for me as I think it'll lead them to coming out flat and if at any point the shots aren't falling, it might be a full blown disaster.

                                          just my 2 cents.
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                                          • RG3ING
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-14-12
                                            • 1622

                                            #266
                                            Theory on betting either all 1h or all total game my best thought would be its gonna save me juice in the long run pushing 2 bets(2 games)rather then pushing 4 bets(2 games) an our record shows we hit more 1h then game bets so that was my thinking plus last couple days i have been winning my 1h then losing game an it was driving me nuts!!
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                                            • RG3ING
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-14-12
                                              • 1622

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by tr4sh
                                              Bonnie has been doing fairly well covering the spread in the last handful of games. They have a knack of getting to the free throw line and have a decent freshman and a decent bench in general coming off the bench.

                                              Along with that Cainius played against a pretty bad team (Boston University) where they needed well above average shooting % to hold them off. The 3-4 day layoff I believe will probably make them more rusty than anything at this point (my unproven theory, rest is good for old, not for young). The rest imo is the bigger factor for me as I think it'll lead them to coming out flat and if at any point the shots aren't falling, it might be a full blown disaster.

                                              just my 2 cents.
                                              Good insight real good next time get it to us before tip lol bol
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                                              • Murray Rothbard
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-22-12
                                                • 698

                                                #268
                                                5PM Plays:

                                                WAKE FOREST +3
                                                1H WAKE FOREST +2

                                                Apparently the public is on Wake Forest not Iona which is weird so this wont be a system play however I already took it so I'll just leave up here for my own purposes.
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                                                • 16johnnymac
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-27-10
                                                  • 3499

                                                  #269
                                                  [they did and lost


                                                  QUOTE=RG3ING;16808790]Locked in
                                                  Can. +1.5 1h
                                                  Seattle +7.5 1h
                                                  Need both of these bad come on damnit!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
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                                                  • Murray Rothbard
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 10-22-12
                                                    • 698

                                                    #270
                                                    So that Wake Forest mistake is about to cost $61.
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                                                    • Murray Rothbard
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-22-12
                                                      • 698

                                                      #271
                                                      Last plays of the night, will update later.

                                                      WESTERN ILLINOIS +5
                                                      1H WESTERN ILLINOIS +3

                                                      LOYOLA CHICAGO +7½
                                                      1H LOYOLA CHICAGO +4
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                                                      • 16johnnymac
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-27-10
                                                        • 3499

                                                        #272
                                                        Hey there old timer can u give me any advice on the So Utah Cs full hoops game?

                                                        Thank you

                                                        Sir
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                                                        • Murray Rothbard
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-22-12
                                                          • 698

                                                          #273
                                                          Originally posted by 16johnnymac
                                                          Hey there old timer can u give me any advice on the So Utah Cs full hoops game?

                                                          Thank you

                                                          Sir
                                                          Line movement is going in the normal direction so I'm not playing it. GL if you do.
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                                                          • Murray Rothbard
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 10-22-12
                                                            • 698

                                                            #274
                                                            UMKC +8 -WIN
                                                            1H UMKC +4.5 -WIN


                                                            N Dakota +16 -LOSS
                                                            1H N Dakota +8.5 -LOSS


                                                            CANISIUS +3½
                                                            1H CANISIUS +1½

                                                            SEATTLE U +14 -LOSS
                                                            1H SEATTLE U +7½ -LOSS


                                                            WESTERN ILLINOIS +5 -PUSH
                                                            1H WESTERN ILLINOIS +3 -WIN

                                                            LOYOLA CHICAGO +7½ -LOSS
                                                            1H LOYOLA CHICAGO +4 -LOSS

                                                            11/17/12: 4-7-1 -$105

                                                            YTD: 28-20-2 ~58% +$293

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                                                            Disappointing day to say the least, but I guess everyday can't be a profitable day so I can't complain too much. On a brighter note, I'm still up for the week and there will be plenty of more games tomorrow for me to try and make up for todays losses.
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                                                            • RG3ING
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-14-12
                                                              • 1622

                                                              #275
                                                              0-3 yesterday -6.3 units oh man looking for a bounce back day!!
                                                              Skins ml pound it!!!!!!!
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                                                              • Murray Rothbard
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 10-22-12
                                                                • 698

                                                                #276
                                                                Hey guys, I will be busy today with school work so i'm not sure when I'll be able to check back in but here are all the games I've taken for today. As the season progresses and as I analyze past games taken I will be adjusting and tweaking the way I take bets. Going forward, according to what I have been seeing, I will continue to take 1H's and whole games, however, I will be loosening my criteria a bit wrt public sentiment. If I see RLM of a point or higher I will jump on the game asap in order to get the most value from my bets. While doing this runs the risk of the line eventually moving in the right direction it is the risk I am willing to take to get the best value.

                                                                Mid Tennesse +10
                                                                Rhode Island +9.5
                                                                Southern Utah +15
                                                                Quinnipiac +10
                                                                E Illinois +4.5
                                                                Wofford +17
                                                                1H Mid Tennessee +6
                                                                1H Rhode Island +5
                                                                1H Southern Utah +8.5
                                                                1H Quinnipiac +6
                                                                1H E Illinois +2.5
                                                                1H Wofford +9.5
                                                                As usual, 1H bets are $33/$30 and whole game bets are $28/25 (unless juice varies). BOL everybody!
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                                                                • Murray Rothbard
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 10-22-12
                                                                  • 698

                                                                  #277
                                                                  ADDED:

                                                                  E Washington +21.5
                                                                  1H E Washington +12
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                                                                  • BRed325
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 10-25-12
                                                                    • 21

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Is your shirt on or off today?
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                                                                    • Murray Rothbard
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 10-22-12
                                                                      • 698

                                                                      #279
                                                                      11/18/12 UPDATE:

                                                                      Mid Tennessee +10 -LOSS
                                                                      Rhode Island +9.5 -WIN
                                                                      Southern Utah +15 -LOSS
                                                                      Quinnipiac +10 -WIN
                                                                      E Illinois +4.5 -WIN
                                                                      Wofford +17 -LOSS
                                                                      1H Mid Tennessee +6 -WIN
                                                                      1H Rhode Island +5 -WIN
                                                                      1H Southern Utah +8.5 -WIN
                                                                      1H Quinnipiac +6 -WIN
                                                                      1H E Illinois +2.5 -WIN
                                                                      1H Wofford +9.5 -LOSS
                                                                      E Washington +21.5 -WIN
                                                                      1H E Washington +12 -WIN
                                                                      11/18/12: 10-4 - $163

                                                                      YTD: 30-24-2 ~55
                                                                      $456

                                                                      ======================================== ===============

                                                                      Good way to end the week.
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                                                                      • blackeyeshamus
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 02-19-11
                                                                        • 6632

                                                                        #280
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