John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread

**thelimit0310** · 02-09-12, 08:14 PM

Good one dlunc

**Sandwich** · 02-09-12, 11:13 PM

Limit, I'm excited to see the 7/5 results. I'll be the first to thank you and Wallco for taking the time to backtest. Definitely not an easy task. Let's keep the thread positive and win some money.

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 09:42 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 32-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -5.29 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-6.00 units)

(2/9/12):
#34 Denver (M/L) (B) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 25-10
(B) 3-7
(C) 2-4
(D) 2-2

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (2/10/12):
#34 Resumes (C) on 2/11/12
#36 New Jersey (+2½) @ Detroit (A) (7:35 pm EST)
#37 Portland @ New Orleans (+7) (A) (8:05 pm EST)

** Denotes line not available at time of post

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

**casdio** · 02-10-12, 09:46 AM

Boston@Hornetts? Isn't it Portland @ hornetts?

**adidas-b 88** · 02-10-12, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 32-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -5.29 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-6.00 units)

(2/9/12):
#34 Denver (M/L) (B) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 25-10
(B) 3-7
(C) 2-4
(D) 2-2

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (2/10/12):
#34 Resumes (C) on 2/11/12
#36 New Jersey (+2½) @ Detroit (A) (7:35 pm EST)
#37 Boston @ New Orleans (**) (A) (8:05 pm EST)

** Denotes line not available at time of post

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

Hey Wallco, Boston is playing Toronto today and Portland is playing New Orleans today. I think it's supposed to be Boston vs Toronto, I just checked and saw Toronto lost their last 3 games

**casdio** · 02-10-12, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by adidas-b 88

Hey Wallco, Boston is playing Toronto today and Portland is playing New Orleans today. I think it's supposed to be Boston vs Toronto, I just checked and saw Toronto lost their last 3 games

But Toronto won 2 (ATS) out of those 3. So, they are not a valid play

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by adidas-b 88

Hey Wallco, Boston is playing Toronto today and Portland is playing New Orleans today. I think it's supposed to be Boston vs Toronto, I just checked and saw Toronto lost their last 3 games

Sorry, Now corrected. And Hornets has one "T".

**adidas-b 88** · 02-10-12, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Sorry, Now corrected. And Hornets has one "T".

okay no prob!

**thelimit0310** · 02-10-12, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Sandwich

Limit, I'm excited to see the 7/5 results. I'll be the first to thank you and Wallco for taking the time to backtest. Definitely not an easy task. Let's keep the thread positive and win some money.

Should be able to post the results by today or tomorrow.

**Maxi_EV** · 02-10-12, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

Should be able to post the results by today or tomorrow.

**thelimit0310** · 02-10-12, 10:50 AM

JM Feb 10

V3 MIAMI -9.5 @ Washington (B)

All official plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favorites greater than -3.

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

Should be able to post the results by today or tomorrow.

Been playing it for a few weeks. Not necessarily the way we discussed, but still doing well.

**smggolfer** · 02-10-12, 11:08 AM

Are the Clippers a V1 play today?

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by smggolfer

Are the Clippers a V1 play today?

No.

**smggolfer** · 02-10-12, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

No.

Thanks, I didn't see Dallas there as the third game.

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by smggolfer

Thanks, I didn't see Dallas there as the third game.

It wouldn't have been a play regardless of who that third team was.

**smggolfer** · 02-10-12, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

It wouldn't have been a play regardless of who that third team was.

Thanks, I was looking at ESPN and I thought it showed the Clippers at home on Wed vs the Cavs. My mistake, thanks for the correction.

**petters72** · 02-10-12, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

JM Feb 10

V3 MIAMI -9.5 @ Washington (B)

All official plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favorites greater than -3.

I cant buy 3 points at pinnacle...??? What is going on???? Any thoughts????

**Maxi_EV** · 02-10-12, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by petters72

I cant buy 3 points at pinnacle...??? What is going on???? Any thoughts????

Wtf?

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 01:23 PM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 32-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -5.29 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-6.00 units)

(2/9/12):
#34 Denver (M/L) (B) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 25-10
(B) 3-7
(C) 2-4
(D) 2-2

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (2/10/12):
#34 Resumes (C) on 2/11/12
#36 New Jersey (+2½) @ Detroit (A) (7:35 pm EST)
#37 Portland @ New Orleans (+7) (A) (8:05 pm EST)

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

**Nino7** · 02-10-12, 04:17 PM

-200 to buy 3 points at 5Dimes

**Maxi_EV** · 02-10-12, 04:35 PM

Anybody has a clue why we can't buy 3 points no more at pinnacle?

**petters72** · 02-10-12, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Maxi_EV

Anybody has a clue why we can't buy 3 points no more at pinnacle?

This is the response from pinnacle....

Dear Sir,

We remind you to include your client ID number in every query.

The "buy points" menu option on the site was removed as of 9 February 2012.* We found this option was rarely used by our clients and was in some cases more expensive.

You may now either buy or sell points by clicking the down arrow located next to the Handicap and Total Points box.

When buying or selling points, the price*of the wager is changed according to the bet.

Please be sure to review both the points you buy or sell and the price before confirming your wager.

Kind regards,

Customer Service Department

Pinnacle Sports

Idiots...what other sportbook can I use instead? I live in Sweden...

**Nino7** · 02-10-12, 04:56 PM

they say u can still do it...

**petters72** · 02-10-12, 05:01 PM

Only 1-point buy, not 3

**DollarBill10** · 02-10-12, 05:13 PM

I don't buy points but they let you at: betonline.com

**dlunc3** · 02-10-12, 05:13 PM

why are you guys buying points anyway? hasnt it been proven to be more profitable over the years with no point buying?

**Nino7** · 02-10-12, 05:22 PM

i think the system is losing if u dont buy points

**alexknyc** · 02-10-12, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Nino7

-200 to buy 3 points at 5Dimes

Back when I used BetUS, buying 3 points was -170, which sucks but not as badly as -200.

**alexknyc** · 02-10-12, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Nino7

i think the system is losing if u dont buy points

This year, maybe. Over the course of the last few years, I'm told not.

**DollarBill10** · 02-10-12, 05:27 PM

I am not buying points I am up 19 units, even with 3 system losses.

**dlunc3** · 02-10-12, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by Nino7

i think the system is losing if u dont buy points

Maybe this year, but not backtested over many years (I do not have the numbers in front of me, but I am pretty sure I remember seeing backtested results showing it to be more profitable not buying points... anyone have this data? Since you are so bored these days Wallco and Limit, maybe you guys have it

)

**1gamer** · 02-10-12, 05:32 PM

Suspending C1 (B) Denver series and reinstating V3 (B) Miami series -9.5

23 to win 11.5 units (System +29 units since Feb 4) (1 open series (C) -8.5 units)

BOL tonite

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

Maybe this year, but not backtested over many years (I do not have the numbers in front of me, but I am pretty sure I remember seeing backtested results showing it to be more profitable not buying points... anyone have this data? Since you are so bored these days Wallco and Limit, maybe you guys have it

)

Actually, we do.

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by DollarBill10

I am not buying points I am up 19 units, even with 3 system losses.

+47 units here.