John Morrison 2010 NBA

[PanamaKid]

Any NHL plays tonight?

[PanamaKid]

That's not true. It doesn't matter what conference a team is playing against. John Morrison (a.k.a. Lan Nguyen) is touting his services to sell you his BS conference systems.

I understand that it's risky to chase teams and there are chances that you can lose series on these games. The same happens when chasing NHL teams. I realized a way that you can actually eliminate series losses. I have checked back previous seasons of NBA and NHL teams and their betting lines and it seems to make a lot of sense now. This means that there are some series games that you have to pass on, even if it wins.

So this is how it should work for both NBA:

NBA: Buy 3 points on any team that is on a consecutive road trip for at least 3 games if their next consecutive road trip for at least 3 games doesn't occur within one month later. If they are on a road trip for at least 4 games, then it stops on the "D" bet. Also, do not bet on them within a month before their last game of the season.

NHL: Bet on a team that is on a consecutive road trip for at least 3 games if their next consecutive road trip for at least 3 games doesn't occur within one month later. If they are on a road trip for at least 4 games, then it stops on the "D" bet. If they are favorites, bet on the money line. If they are underdogs, bet on the +1.5 puck line. Also, do not bet on them within a month before their last game of the season.

Here are examples in the NBA:
The Sacramento Kings series lost between 10/29/2008 and 11/3/2008. Everyone thought that you had to play a version 1 bet, which it lost, but they actually covered on against the Minnesota Timberwolves. So it's really regardless of conference and they didn't have another consecutive road trip for at least 3 games within a month after that series.

The Houston Rockets series lost between 12/23/2009 and 12/27/2009. They had a 3-game consecutive road trip within a month after that series. John Morrison made a B.S. excuse saying to bet on the money line on favorites after the Rockets lost out on that series between 12/23/2009 and 12/27/2009. So you don't bet on the first series (12/23/2009 and 12/27/2009).

The Denver Nuggets series lost between 3/23/2010 and 3/29/2010. This series occurred within a month before their last game of the season. Also, they won on the "D" bet with the 3-point buying. John Morrison said that they won on the "C" bet by playing the money line. You have to remember that you don't have to play the money line on favorites in the NBA.

The Sacramento Kings series lost between 2/17/2010 and 2/21/2010. They had a 3-game consecutive road trip within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (2/17/2010 and 2/21/2010).

Here are examples in the NHL:
The St. Louis Blues series lost between 1/5/2006 and 1/15/2006. They had a 6-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (1/5/2006 and 1/15/2006).

The St. Louis Blues series lost between 3/16/2006 and 3/20/2006. This series occurred within a month before their last game of the season.

The Edmonton Oilers series lost between 10/22/2008 and 10/25/2008. They had a 7-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (10/22/2008 and 10/25/2008).

The Carolina Hurricanes series lost between 1/8/2009 and 1/13/2009. They had a 4-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (1/8/2009 and 1/13/2009).

The Anaheim Ducks series lost between 12/31/2009 and 1/3/2010. They had a 6-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (12/31/2009 and 1/3/2010).

The Dallas Stars series lost between 1/10/2010 and 1/14/2010. They had a 3-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (1/10/2010 and 1/14/2010).

The Anaheim Ducks series lost between 10/8/2010 and 10/11/2010. They had a 4-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (10/8/2010 and 10/11/2010).


So under these NBA and NHL guidelines, if teams lose on the first series, bet on them on the second series. Do not bet on them on the first series if their next consecutive road trip of at least 3 games occurs within a month later. This way, you will eliminate series losses.

Sorry to bring up something so old, but my question here then is if the team wins the first series within a 30-day period, should we bet on the second series anyway?

[Wilba]

Yes - to see the JM NHL plays go to El captains thread:

he does a very good job running the thread

[Wilba]

Sorry to bring up something so old, but my question here then is if the team wins the first series within a 30-day period, should we bet on the second series anyway?

PM stanley for Q's about his mod

[PanamaKid]

I'm sorry for all the posts. Here's what I have with the Stanley77 system tracking. Should I be posting this in another thread? I figured the idea originated here so I would keep it in-line, but have no problems moving. Anyone want to help out with the attached spreadsheet?

EDIT: Wilba, just saw your replies. Will do and thank you for the info.

[Wilba]

No worries PanamaKid

I have just decided that, starting with GSW today, I am gonna play the JM NBA A bets until I get some profit out of them, as I have done backtesting and found that after a really bad A bet run like we have just had, the win % usually picks up afterwards.

So I am predicting that over next 1-2 weeks (or even 3-4 if necessary) JM NBA 'A' bets will be profitable, and I will hence play them.

I would recommend to others that they are worth playing too, at least until a turnaround is evident and profit is made from them

[J.M. Disciple]

12/29/10
Reverse:v1 Philadelphia series. They won on A but lost B so now their is a C bet, which people have the option of making some profit. 61% on C wagers after A wins and B loses over the last 2 years.
Reverse is Phx -5.5 (61%)

12/29
three JM A bets today which if you read Wilba's post i wouldn't recommend betting on A long term.
GSW, NJN, and Memphis all A wagers today.

[J.M. Disciple]

Do you bet C after A loss B wins and reverse the JM system betting on Home team for C? If so today would be Det +6 over Boston or does this method only apply after the A loss?

[J.M. Disciple]

If ATL doesn't cover -6.5 vs GSW than SBP has Memphis -3.5 as a C bet for the 10:00pm game.
Also Detroit +6.5 right now vs Boston is a "C" wager for SBP updated system which is 27-2 atm.
There is no buying points with this system, just betting the spreads straight up.

GL to all.
I have Phx -5.5..........Reverse JM system after A win for philly, B loss so im reversing the C wager after the A win (61% over last 2 years)
Memphis -4................ Possible C wager for SBP if ATL doesn't cover -6.5 vs gsw tonight. *do not bet unless atl doesn't cover -6.5
Det +6.5.....................Reverse B for JM as well as SBP "C wager" tonight.

BOL to all.

[J.M. Disciple]

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[Wilba]

I have Phx -5.5..........Reverse JM system after A win for philly, B loss so im reversing the C wager after the A win (61% over last 2 years)

Philly lost the cover @ golden state on the 27th when they got blown out by 15 points as a 4 point dog. So the 'reverse' system covered on the 27th. please be careful posting things like this coz other people might place bets based on what is posted. The 61% on home team win % is ONLY if the away team has covered both the A and B bets ATS, plus it is based on a very small sample size

[Wilba]

yes everything you say is correct: "Does the B bet have to lose as well in order for the reverse of the system to cover 61% on "c wager" with out buying points?" this is correct..

this issue was cleared up only this morning, when I responded to your post. Did you read the response? why would you now post that fading Philly today is a 'reverse JM C bet??'

Nice work on the A win with GS, like I said the fortune of A's will turn, based on statistical probabilities evening out over a larger timespan.

I can't believe it as I actually middled this game! Had Hawks -6.5 for SBP B bet also, and they both win! Unbelievable!

[Wilba]

Do you bet C after A loss B wins and reverse the JM system betting on Home team for C? If so today would be Det +6 over Boston or does this method only apply after the A loss?

a) read my earlier post. Already answered this and the answer is no. If home and road team both win one of first two games of roadtrip, clearly both the JM system and the reverse 'system' have already covered. So I'm not sure how any C bet could come into it when both 'systems' have already covered
b) read my earlier post. The stats I quoted did NOT include V3 series. Boston is currently in a V3 series

[jmjj]

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[jphil]

No worries PanamaKid

I have just decided that, starting with GSW today, I am gonna play the JM NBA A bets until I get some profit out of them, as I have done backtesting and found that after a really bad A bet run like we have just had, the win % usually picks up afterwards.

So I am predicting that over next 1-2 weeks (or even 3-4 if necessary) JM NBA 'A' bets will be profitable, and I will hence play them.

I would recommend to others that they are worth playing too, at least until a turnaround is evident and profit is made from them

so i take it that if we continued to play b/c bets only, that we would just get that much lessor b/c plays, if your A bet experiment works, but with no real effect on the overall b/c profit?

[Wilba]

so i take it that if we continued to play b/c bets only, that we would just get that much lessor b/c plays, if your A bet experiment works, but with no real effect on the overall b/c profit?

Sorry if this is comfusing, I realise it may be, but I am a very strong believer in knowing that all streaks, whether they be winning or losing, always end after a certain time, and long term statistical probabilities always win out in the end. My reasoning for my post saying I was going to temporarily play A bets was that, A bets up until today had only hit 50%. Now I know that A bets will not stay at 50% for the year (I know this from backtesting) and hence I know that between now and sometime soon, the A bet % will pick up. Thereby making it profitable.

This has no effect on my knowledge that only playing B/C is most profitable long term, and will not at all affect the way I play the system (only playing B/C). If you want to look at it this way - I will play A bets currently, but only temporarily. HOWEVER, I am not playing A bets as part of the A/B/C chase JM system, I am going to play a few A bets until x amount of profit is reached AS THEIR OWN SYSTEM, based on the fact that I know the A bet hit rate will firm towards their statistical probability of ~61.5%, until they reach a number closer to their statistical probability. I know this is an abstract, and perhaps arbitrary way to look at it, but does wording it this way help to make sense of the matter?

Again I say, this is purely based on my knowledge that all trends eventually firm towards their statistical, long term, probabilities. Just as I knew earlier in the season, when A's were hitting 75%, that the A performance would soon drop, I now know, given that they are at 50%, that their hit rate will soon rise. I will take advantage of this temporary span throughout which the A's will be profitable. After that span has ended (I would guess anywhere between 1-3 weeks) I will not play A's anymore, coz I know LONG TERM, they will cost me dough.

[Wilba]

and yes this definitely has no effect on long term B/C profit as opposed to playing A/B/C. No effect whatsoever

[knugen]

Common grizzlies!!!!!

[jphil]

Wilba: You're flat bettin the A's temporarily, here & there, throughout the season, completely separate from the usual season long b/c chase, from what i understand. So tonight you wagered 3 separate bets or whatever on the A's. NJ lost, MEMP. lost, & GS was either a push, loss, (or a win if gotten @ the +7.5 for the lousy 3 min. they had it up at betus). Putting that aside, the next NJ gm. is a B bet, & if ya have an A bet that same night on another tm., then you'll be laying separate bets(the A, & the usual B's). Is that right? Doesn't it all come out in the laundry eventually if ya had just waited for these next 3 (in my opinion) B bets, & wagered the extra amount on those as usual. But then again what the hell do i know, cause i'm certainly no stat/math genius. I'm sure you can set me straight.

[fotzan]

is sportsbook.com ok? I mean about the withdraw money procedure.

[J.M. Disciple]

Sorry Wilba I must of been tired when i read your post. I clearly wasn't thinking and I must of been looking at a different Philly game or mixing up games. You are completely right. I wish i would of reread your post before betting on Phx tonight lol. Just a small bet though oh well.

Thanks Wilba for once again clearing things up for me. Huge help!

[J.M. Disciple]

12/29/10
v1: GSW vs ATL : win considering the JM rules Whos continuing with this series?
v2: NJN vs OKC : Loss
v3: Memphis vs SAC Loss

12/31/10
V1: GSW vs Char. [B wager]
v2: NJN vs CHi [B wager]
v1: Detroit vs phx [a wager]
v1: ATL vs okc [a wager]

01/01/11
v3: Memphis vs Utah [B wager]

[Bazz27]

JW I am in Aus but we aint gettin much sunshine at the moment and I live on the Gold Coast! We are getting floods, must be better than getting snowed in I suspect!

Hi mate, im also in oz, what sportsbook u using pls for best value - cheers nsw

JW I am in Aus but we aint gettin much sunshine at the moment and I live on the Gold Coast! We are getting floods, must be better than getting snowed in I suspect!

[J.M. Disciple]

With the Reverse system of JM on B and C after the A win for the road team do you do a two game chase or just a flat bet wilba?

I reread your post, but apparently my reading skills and understand haven't been too good as of late.

Thanks again Wilba.

[zigomanisinsider]

you will never make money betting this joke of a system

[J.M. Disciple]

you will never make money betting this joke of a system

so why are we up money? lol

[knugen]

you will never make money betting this joke of a system

Haha, why are u even in this forum ! U are the joke in here!

[cmdyrds]

12/29/10
Reverse:v1 Philadelphia series. They won on A but lost B so now their is a C bet, which people have the option of making some profit. 61% on C wagers after A wins and B loses over the last 2 years.
Reverse is Phx -5.5 (61%)

12/29
three JM A bets today which if you read Wilba's post i wouldn't recommend betting on A long term.
GSW, NJN, and Memphis all A wagers today.

JM

there was a thread started by seth i believe about reversing this system. i know i followed it early on and it wasn't profitable. not to say it isn't now but figured i'd pass along info first hand. GL.

[Jankar]

Morisson's betting system is it important to buy 3 more points plus

[GGPLAYER]

12/29/10
v1: GSW vs ATL : win considering the JM rules Whos continuing with this series?
v2: NJN vs OKC : Loss
v3: Memphis vs SAC Loss

12/31/10
V1: GSW vs Char. [B wager]
v2: NJN vs CHi [B wager]
v1: Detroit vs phx [a wager]
v1: ATL vs okc [a wager]

01/01/11
v3: Memphis vs Utah [B wager]

I will still play the GSW series since it's a game. There are 4 games left in their road trip and I will treat the next game like an A bet.

[GGPLAYER]

No worries PanamaKid

I have just decided that, starting with GSW today, I am gonna play the JM NBA A bets until I get some profit out of them, as I have done backtesting and found that after a really bad A bet run like we have just had, the win % usually picks up afterwards.

So I am predicting that over next 1-2 weeks (or even 3-4 if necessary) JM NBA 'A' bets will be profitable, and I will hence play them.

I would recommend to others that they are worth playing too, at least until a turnaround is evident and profit is made from them

I have not been in here for some time and was suprised to read this from you. I'm not sure GSW could be considered a win since most people got it at 6.5 or 7. Push or loss for many. Secondly I think the string of A bets just occurred recently and I'm not so sure they will be happening again now. Few weeks ago from 12/18 - 12/22 A bets went 4-1. Since then they are 2-5 (that's with GSW last night). Previsiouly to that 4-1 run A bets went 2-13 from 12/6-12/17. I guess you could argue that A's would have to start hitting at a higer % based on that. I'm just unsure still. Plus you bet at a higher unit on the B and C's anyway so why the need to play the A bets?

[fotzan]

did you had any problems with sportsbook.com? I am asking because I have heard several problems about money withdraw actions...

[fotzan]

I used Sportbook.com and have been paid and it is always @1.70. I also used 5 dimes and it fluctuates and I am not sure why.

I don't buy points anymore and do the labby.

did you had any6 problems withdrawing money from sportsbook.com? I have heard several not good things about that sb can you tell me your opinion?

[krzychu78]

JM's NBA V3 system:
12/29/2010 Memphis @ Sacramento - V3, A bet - LOSS

V3 record so far (finished series): 26-1
(A): 14-13
(B): 11-2
(C): 1-1

Next V3 plays:
01/01/2011 Oklahoma City @ San Antonio - V3, A bet
01/01/2011 Memphis @ Utah - V3, B bet

[dukipl]

GL on the plays guys