John Morrison 2010 NBA

[teecee]

of course, last season, when the celtics were on a 13-game streak, the mighty sixers beat them to end their run, so expect to go to at least a "b" bet with the celts.

[krzychu78]

JM's NBA V3 system:

12/08/2010 Oklahoma City @ Minnesota - V3, B bet - WIN

V3 record so far (finished series): 15-1
(A): 10-6
(B): 5-1
(C): 0-1

V3 play for today:
12/09/2010 Boston @ Philadelphia - V3, A bet

[ghislaine]

So really lost because have missed a couple
games and all the series overlapping...
so could someone pretty please post all plays for tonight

GAME Version and wich bet

I promise to keep on track from now on..

Love You guys !!

[ghislaine]

I got the spreadsheet and know the A bets for tonight, its just do we have any open series ??

[robcataus]

Does anyone else us Betus? I just called them to request payout (I'm tired of getting shitty lines), and I've been told that because I accepted "John Morrison's 15% deposit bonus" (which was advertised as 50%, btw), I cannot make a withdrawal until I have bet a total of 1800 dollars. On a 400 dollar deposit. Is this standard for gambling websites?

[krzychu78]

ghislaine, tonight we have only Boston (A-V3) and Orlando (A-V1). Tomorrow we will have continuation of Denver and Detroit - both V1.

[jmjj]

Does anyone else us Betus? I just called them to request payout (I'm tired of getting shitty lines), and I've been told that because I accepted "John Morrison's 15% deposit bonus" (which was advertised as 50%, btw), I cannot make a withdrawal until I have bet a total of 1800 dollars. On a 400 dollar deposit. Is this standard for gambling websites?

yep it is

its called the ole trick of making u keep your money in there taking a longer than needed with delays and bonuses to pay you out so u will be the addicitive gambler u are and play more in something silly on casino or sports games u know nothing about and lose it all back and BELIEVE ME thats their goal but they will NEVER admit to it EVER just watch out is all

[Stevier100]

Does anyone else us Betus? I just called them to request payout (I'm tired of getting shitty lines), and I've been told that because I accepted "John Morrison's 15% deposit bonus" (which was advertised as 50%, btw), I cannot make a withdrawal until I have bet a total of 1800 dollars. On a 400 dollar deposit. Is this standard for gambling websites?

Or be like me, a total dickhead, don't read any forums!!, believe everything that other prick John Morrison says and wade in betting 2/3rds of your bank like me and lose on the first 2 plays of doing the system, then, I try amd keep my emotions intaked, learn about the system and stay at the same stakes hoping i will recover but then have a series loss and another big shitty night after that, and hey presto!!!, you won't have to worry anymore about taking money out of betus let alone winnings, why, because what with buying their poor value shitty spreads and moneylines for JM plays and my stupidness there's F*ck All left!!!

Let this is a warning to anyone doing this system or any other for that matter, only listen to the well informed formites on here, some have been doing it very well and for some years and if asked politely will really help you out as they have for me since my blowout, Unfortunately it was too late and i only discovered this forum 2 days too late, take it easy and money manage as i didn't and got caught out on my very 1st bets so be careful!!

Also i wished i had checked on here just before making the denver play last night (Last Minute withdrawal -Player Injured) as i would never had bet it so check it out!!

Hope this helps someone not do what i did, the funny thing was i only wanted some quick luck (no such thing) for the kids christmas pressies, What a shite one they'll have now!!

BOL to you all!!
Steve

[J.M. Disciple]

I wanted to ask a quick question to wilba who posted a few pages back that "A bets" win 61% of the time and after buying 3pts at -170 you need 63% to break even. There for, Its best to only follow B and C bets and to increase your bet size to win 2-3 units per B and C bet.

My question regarding the "A wager" only winning 61% does that include the new filter of betting on ML if the team is favorite? I believe that will increase the % enough to make it profitable to bet on A. Which is one of the reasons why "A wagers" have been doing much better this year.

Also I back tested last years results about only betting on road dogs and that is a horrible idea! As well as if you were to only bet favorites because the spreads hit nearly 50% on both sides there for the sites make around 10% of whatever you are investing on every bet long term.

I am going to back test last years results soon to see if the double digit underdogs really do hit 60% with out buying points. I was looking at the LAC and they went something like 10-9 covering the spread as double digit underdogs.

[SolidDala]

if you include favs and ML bigger then -3, then you win slightly more then %61, but the price is higher then -170, take Boston tonight, they are -5 at -200. So with the ML included you need to hit at a higher rate making A-bets non-profitable, what that rate is I do not know but since -200 are 200/300= 67% I reckon its somewhere in the middle and closer to %61 since ML bets ain't that often..

The idea of betting dogs is good, but blindly bet is gets you nowhere, it all goes down to 49-50% over haul. You can follow this link over the season to see how the trends go. As you can see homefavs from start up to now have been very profitable, but its just a fluke, if it weren't then everyone would just bet it.. oh wait the public tend to do that and how much do they make in a season

covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/trends/league/season.html

[J.M. Disciple]

why the F is orlando favored at portland!?

Why wouldn't ORL be favored over Portland?

Lets break it down....
Records
ORL 15-6
POR 10-11

ORL away record 6-3
Por home record 6-3

Last 10 meetings between the two teams ORL has won 7 out of 10 times, one of of which 4 of starters were out from orlando. That wasn't too long ago.

Nelson is expected to play for ORL.

BTW ORL hasn't lost 3 striaght games all season, so expect "A wager" to cover.

Also because GSW didn't cover the Tripple play system at +13 yesterday, does that mean NJN is a "C Bet" for the TPS today?

Boston A wager
Orlando A wager
NJN --Tripple play system?

[J.M. Disciple]

There are no NHL bets today. Detroit is above .500 but they have only lost two straight. As Wilba said if a team is .500 or more and they lose 3 straight then you should start betting on them until they win a game. No chase required.

Anyone know where i can get the full NBA schedule from last year day by day. I already know how to check a teams NBA schedule for last season at covers.com, but I was wondering if someone had the full nba schedule along with the spread next to the game from last year.

I wanted to back test that Tripple Play system. Points will be rewarded if someone already has an excel sheet and can answer my question of:

What do you do when you lose your "B wager" and the next day there are two teams that are double digit underdogs. Which team becomes the C wager and what team gets the new A wager?

[J.M. Disciple]

Also i would like to add i really do blieve Nets will be a "C wager" for today for the TPS. Also checking their record from this year they are 5-0 being 10+ pt underdogs. And Last year They went 19-6 as 10pt underdogs if you buy 3pts (which came into affect only two times i believe).

[luzviminda]

Dec 9, 2010 Orlando (-2.5) vs Portland V1-A bet

[teecee]

from what i've read on this forum, i'm not the only one baffled by the fact that the magic are favored in this m/u. i'm on the magic this evening, following this system. i just don't think they should be favored, but we shall see. i hope we win tonight.

[luzviminda]

Dec 9, 2010 Orlando (+2.5) vs Portland V1-A bet

MISTAKE, should be
[COLOR=#000000! important]Dec 9, 2010 Orlando (-2.5) vs Portland V1-A bet[/COLOR]

[J.M. Disciple]

Alright My bets for today are:
System
[A]ORL -1 (less juice than money line and i can deal with a push if they win by 1pt)
[A] Boston Money line

None system bets:
NJN +13 I believe this to be a TPS system but unconfirmed.
Parlay: Dallas and Boston ML

BOL to all.

[teecee]

Dec 9, 2010 Orlando (+2.5) vs Portland V1-A bet

no, orlando (-2.5) 5 pt difference, bud.

[J.M. Disciple]

from what i've read on this forum, i'm not the only one baffled by the fact that the magic are favored in this m/u. i'm on the magic this evening, following this system. i just don't think they should be favored, but we shall see. i hope we win tonight.

I do not see anyone else baffled by the fact that ORL is favored. Reading through the forum you are the only one surprised by it. You also expect Philly to upset Boston? LOL

You are very pessimistic man.

[jmjj]

Also i would like to add i really do blieve Nets will be a "C wager" for today for the TPS. Also checking their record from this year they are 5-0 being 10+ pt underdogs. And Last year They went 19-6 as 10pt underdogs if you buy 3pts (which came into affect only two times i believe).

the Nets are not a C bet for James system if that what u meant JM its an A bet

[jmjj]

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[SkivChef]

jmjj,
how important is the buyin of the three pts on the james system?

[jmjj]

jmjj,
how important is the buyin of the three pts on the james system?

very bro just the same as Johns just dont try to circumvent anything like some do to get cheaper lines the filter is in place for a reason so u will be cool

[Wilba]

Thank You Wilba for all your posts. I wish I had more SBR points to give.

very kind of you. thanks. I dont really care about SBR points, I guess if you get enough they are useful but dont mean much to me..

[Wilba]

I wanted to ask a quick question to wilba who posted a few pages back that "A bets" win 61% of the time and after buying 3pts at -170 you need 63% to break even. There for, Its best to only follow B and C bets and to increase your bet size to win 2-3 units per B and C bet.

My question regarding the "A wager" only winning 61% does that include the new filter of betting on ML if the team is favorite? I believe that will increase the % enough to make it profitable to bet on A. Which is one of the reasons why "A wagers" have been doing much better this year.

Also I back tested last years results about only betting on road dogs and that is a horrible idea! As well as if you were to only bet favorites because the spreads hit nearly 50% on both sides there for the sites make around 10% of whatever you are investing on every bet long term.

I am going to back test last years results soon to see if the double digit underdogs really do hit 60% with out buying points. I was looking at the LAC and they went something like 10-9 covering the spread as double digit underdogs.

Hi - to answer your question the quoted A bet hit rate of 61% is for the 'proper' system (ie without the fudged ML favorite filter, which was only brought it to cover up Houston series loss last year, and which I dont play as it would mean for some series the juice becomes unplayable)

And in response to your comment about how playing the ML on heavy fav's would push the win rate up, well of course it would, but SolidDala's response says it all - although you are pushing win rate up you are also pushing the payout down equally, so either way A's are just as profitable (in fact they are not profitable at all but you get my drift)

SolidDala in regard to your "cant bet every dog blindly, long run it just ends up at 50% and you lose on juice" - 100% correct. However there are some exceptions to betting blindly. For example double digit dogs you can bet blindly on every one and long run I guarantee you make money. Very easy to check this stat.

Sorry one more thing, to JM disciple. I did not quote 60% exactly on double digit dogs, I quoted close to 60% on all double digit dogs. As I saif this is very eaasy to check if you want to confirm this for yourself.
For some exact figures for particular point spreads I can give you the following: (win rates of particular NBA double digit spreads since 1990)
+11.5 = +57.5% ATS
+13.0 = +57.8% ATS
+13.5 = +57.8% ATS
+16.5 = +64.3% ATS
+17.0 = +69.2% ATS
+17.5 = +63.2% ATS

cheers and good luck everyone today/tomorrow.

To head off the inevitable "detroit is a crap team, should we really play the C bet tomorrow??" I was answer in advance.. Detroit has basically an 80% chance to win tomorrow if you buy 3 points. 80% chance at odds of around 1.55 is an outstanding bet, so yes I reckon all should play as a 4/5 chance is winning at these odds has huge advantage in your favour. Nuff said

[Wilba]

There are no NHL bets today. Detroit is above .500 but they have only lost two straight. As Wilba said if a team is .500 or more and they lose 3 straight then you should start betting on them until they win a game. No chase required.

Anyone know where i can get the full NBA schedule from last year day by day. I already know how to check a teams NBA schedule for last season at covers.com, but I was wondering if someone had the full nba schedule along with the spread next to the game from last year.

I wanted to back test that Tripple Play system. Points will be rewarded if someone already has an excel sheet and can answer my question of:

What do you do when you lose your "B wager" and the next day there are two teams that are double digit underdogs. Which team becomes the C wager and what team gets the new A wager?

Hi to clarify - I did not say that it is profitable CONTINUING to bet on an NHL +0.500 team (until they win) after they lose three games - only a one game bet on the 4th game after losing 3. If that bet loses and they lose 4 straight I dont bet again until a different team in the same situation arises.

Also Im not sure that posting NHL 3 loss +0.500 bets in here is appropriate - I was simply providing a titbit of useful info I did not intend for people to start posting upcoming bets - as I dont think we should be posting NHL bets here. (but if anyone was gonna play an NHL bet today Washington ML is small odds at -245 but a huge chance of winning today. Im playing them with confidence)

[Kev the Brit]

JMD:

What do you do when you lose your "B wager" and the next day there are two teams that are double digit underdogs. Which team becomes the C wager and what team gets the new A wager?

The "underdog status" is tied to the A bet underdog for as long as it takes for that team to meet the criteria again.

Eg Team 1 v Team 2. Team 1 is the dog by +600 on ML and with a spread of +9 or bigger. You bet on Team 1 to win 1 unit on the spread and buy 3 points (A Bet). If Team 1 wins the bet, end of series. If team 1 loses the A bet, you wait until Team 1 is once again a dog with the same min odds and min spread. When the criteris is met you play the B bet to recover the A bet plus the 1 unit. It doesn't matter if the team is home or on the road. 100% this year and previous years.

So, to answer your question, both teams are C bets if they are the same teams as the previous night or they are A bets if new to the series.

[Wilba]

I know someone already tested it, but I do not know what the results were or where to find it.
What were the results of betting the system with out points and with out chasing? Actually ill go back in look it couldn't of been posted too far back.

betting withou points and no chasing hits around 52%, it was basically just enough to break even. CAnt tell you the exact results but I can tell you that it just broke even and did not make money.

also just to clarify with my earlier post about how not buying the points costs you a lot in the long run, I was speaking about chase only. I can not speak for how not buying points does when you use a labby as I have not tested it. But JW/Stevex do this and they say it works well. I just stick with what I know works well so I can not speak for how they do it

[Wilba]

JMD: The "underdog status" is tied to the A bet underdog for as long as it takes for that team to meet the criteria again.

Eg Team 1 v Team 2. Team 1 is the dog by +600 on ML and with a spread of +9 or bigger. You bet on Team 1 to win 1 unit on the spread and buy 3 points (A Bet). If Team 1 wins the bet, end of series. If team 1 loses the A bet, you wait until Team 1 is once again a dog with the same min odds and min spread. When the criteris is met you play the B bet to recover the A bet plus the 1 unit. It doesn't matter if the team is home or on the road. 100% this year and previous years.

So, to answer your question, both teams are C bets if they are the same teams as the previous night or they are A bets if new to the series.

Nice one thanks for clarifying that. It appears that my 2nd hand information left out part of the story.

Kev could you please respond to my post (I responding to your earlier post about my original post about sitting out the A bets!) from 1-2 pages ago. I would like to make sure that my integrity is not questioned because you misunderstood/misread my method with sitting out the A bets.

Thanks you!

[JW Cash]

Hi - to answer your question the quoted A bet hit rate of 61% is for the 'proper' system (ie without the fudged ML favorite filter, which was only brought it to cover up Houston series loss last year, and which I dont play as it would mean for some series the juice becomes unplayable)

And in response to your comment about how playing the ML on heavy fav's would push the win rate up, well of course it would, but SolidDala's response says it all - although you are pushing win rate up you are also pushing the payout down equally, so either way A's are just as profitable (in fact they are not profitable at all but you get my drift)

SolidDala in regard to your "cant bet every dog blindly, long run it just ends up at 50% and you lose on juice" - 100% correct. However there are some exceptions to betting blindly. For example double digit dogs you can bet blindly on every one and long run I guarantee you make money. Very easy to check this stat.

Sorry one more thing, to JM disciple. I did not quote 60% exactly on double digit dogs, I quoted close to 60% on all double digit dogs. As I saif this is very eaasy to check if you want to confirm this for yourself.
For some exact figures for particular point spreads I can give you the following: (win rates of particular NBA double digit spreads since 1990)
+11.5 = +57.5% ATS
+13.0 = +57.8% ATS
+13.5 = +57.8% ATS
+16.5 = +64.3% ATS
+17.0 = +69.2% ATS
+17.5 = +63.2% ATS

cheers and good luck everyone today/tomorrow.

To head off the inevitable "detroit is a crap team, should we really play the C bet tomorrow??" I was answer in advance.. Detroit has basically an 80% chance to win tomorrow if you buy 3 points. 80% chance at odds of around 1.55 is an outstanding bet, so yes I reckon all should play as a 4/5 chance is winning at these odds has huge advantage in your favour. Nuff said

This is exactly what Rich Allen does with Sports Betting Professor....his
plays are in the Sevice Play forum....

He has key pointspreads that are historically profitable...
Been using his plays for 2 years now and they are very good moneymakers....

[COYLO]

which books allow you to buy points??

would be handy to know

[atari5200]

lakers lost ATS against the clips. they got the bulls tonight.Is this a V2 b bet?

holy titans...JM C bet wins again

[J.M. Disciple]

12/09/2010

[C] detroit
[C** Denver
[A] Portland
[A** Lakers (is this one unofficial since they were a bet vs the clippers)?

[stevex]

Looks like a big night for the system Friday (tonight if you're E.S.T . Magic had a 14 pt. early in the 2nd quarter, but basically just fell apart in the 2nd half so on to tomorrow....anyone confirm for me.

Denver
Detroit
Orlando

I think that's all right?

[luzviminda]

Five losses now
Detroit (C)
Denver (C)
Orlando (B)