Lebron will never win any championship unless he changes his attitude!

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  • chopperocker
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    #36
    Originally posted by Thomas_Garber
    Season when an nba star won his first championship:
    1) michael jordan won it in his 7th season;
    2) kobe bryant got it in his 4th season;
    3) lebron has never won any, and he's already had 7 seasons;
    let's face it, james is over-rated;

    the cavs is cursed for intentionally playing to lose during the 2002-03 season---
    a ploy which gave them the 1st pick in the 2003 draft, during which the team signed lebron--- back then, the hottest high school ball player.
    (guess who gave james his first hummer in high school?)

    james is cursed too by his unsubstantiated entitlement;
    though undeserving, he arrogantly occupies a throne meant for nba champs.
    let us all wake up, and call a spade--- a spade: james is an emperor with no clothes.

    let us stop giving excuses for james (hurt elbow, lack of support, etc): kobe plays with a broken finger in his shooting hand; mj played through a lingering contusion in his both feet; keeping yourself healthy or playing through an injury is part of the game called basketball--- surely, king james is not above this rule.
    james' overzealous fans wish that james had this or that teammate, or this or that coach. but you see, nba is not a fantasy game--- a true champion can only win with the team and the coach that he has--- this is part of the challenge for any team.

    james will never win any championship for any nba team because of his attitude.
    Peyton Manning will never win the big one Kobe will never win without Shaq The Beatles will never be successful ....etc. Never say Never.
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    • jon13009
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      #37
      Look at Garnett....Give James and the NBA time, and they will figurre out how to find him a championship because he needs to be legitimized for the league's sake.
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      • Chugs
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        #38
        Originally posted by Thomas_Garber
        Season when an nba star won his first championship:
        1) michael jordan won it in his 7th season;
        2) kobe bryant got it in his 4th season;
        3) lebron has never won any, and he's already had 7 seasons;
        let's face it, james is over-rated;

        the cavs is cursed for intentionally playing to lose during the 2002-03 season---
        a ploy which gave them the 1st pick in the 2003 draft, during which the team signed lebron--- back then, the hottest high school ball player.
        (guess who gave james his first hummer in high school?)

        james is cursed too by his unsubstantiated entitlement;
        though undeserving, he arrogantly occupies a throne meant for nba champs.
        let us all wake up, and call a spade--- a spade: james is an emperor with no clothes.

        let us stop giving excuses for james (hurt elbow, lack of support, etc): kobe plays with a broken finger in his shooting hand; mj played through a lingering contusion in his both feet; keeping yourself healthy or playing through an injury is part of the game called basketball--- surely, king james is not above this rule.
        james' overzealous fans wish that james had this or that teammate, or this or that coach. but you see, nba is not a fantasy game--- a true champion can only win with the team and the coach that he has--- this is part of the challenge for any team.

        james will never win any championship for any nba team because of his attitude.
        WoW...
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        • Goat Milk
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          #39
          Originally posted by newjerseydevils
          double
          what an ugly ass smiley and a nasty dance

          g'nite.
          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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          • shady610
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            #40
            people tend to forget that the cavs had the best record in the league 2 years in a row. so the criticism of his teammates is retarded.

            I dont think anybody who closely watches nba ball would disagree that lebron is more about showmanship than winning
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            • Goat Milk
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              #41
              By the way, anyone that thinks Lebron will never win a ring- please give me the name and number of the guy where you get your kush from. He's fukkin lacin that shit for sure.
              Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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              • sideline36
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                • 11-01-09
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                #42
                The man has a team that can win it all now. He doesnt raise their level of play or make them rise to the occasion. I cant picture MJ or Kobe letting their teamates play that way without getting in their ass! He honestly doesnt know what to do in the big moment. The killer instinct is not there and it is something you are born with and it is not developed. He is finally realizing he cant just triple double his way to a ring, he has to be a true leader and bring his team up with him.
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                • jjgold
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                  #43
                  Kobe has played with great players
                  Jordan does not count because he was best ever, he could of won with college players

                  Lebron needs to be taught basic basketball skills, he is too raw and just pure power
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                  • shady610
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Kobe has played with great players
                    Jordan does not count because he was best ever, he could of won with college players

                    Lebron needs to be taught basic basketball skills, he is too raw and just pure power
                    the best ever also had the best coach of all time and another top 50 player on his team. not too mention the best rebounder in the modern era
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                    • sideline36
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                      • 11-01-09
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                      #45
                      Why does everyone act like rodman was there the whole time!!!! Jordan played with rile players outside of Pippen. He had less talent hands down. Lebron has 3 all stars around him and a second team all defensive center. These excuses are pathetic!!
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                      • rm18
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by sideline36
                        Why does everyone act like rodman was there the whole time!!!! Jordan played with rile players outside of Pippen. He had less talent hands down. Lebron has 3 all stars around him and a second team all defensive center. These excuses are pathetic!!
                        technically 4 all stars i guess Ilgauskas, Shaq, Jamison, Williams though they all suck
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                        • rm18
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                          #47
                          Jordan is a little overrated some people forget or do not realize the Bulls nearly won the whole thing without him in 1994.
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                          • jayroy25
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                            • 11-18-09
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                            #48
                            Lebron could possibly be the mcnabb of basketball
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                            • jjgold
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                              #49
                              I guess you can say Jordan never would of won 3 more titles without Rodman

                              Guy was a dominant force as he proved that in Detroit with 2 titles
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                              • Mac4Lyfe
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by hoopster42
                                dear dumbfukks who know nothing about basketball, kobe would have never won without shaq and gasol. until lebron gets a star player with him, he wont win either. teams win championships, not individuals with terrible coaches and fellow mates
                                How come Lebron led teams always look great during the regular season but horrible in the playoffs? Maybe because Lebron turns into this ball hogging, not trusting your team mates guy??? Funny how so many people say he's the "ultimate" team mate, yet he's gotten more team mates fired than Donald Trump. He plays the blame game in crunch time then says he needs more help once he loses. He puts up a horrible effort in 5 of 6 games of this series but never once took responsibility. Just more excuses and how his elbow was a factor but oh, no excuses.

                                He's a Diva that has to have his way. He doesn't want a coach to actually coach him because he already knows it all. He doesn't want anyone on the team to outshine him because he's the "King". Do you really think he can play with D. Wade? his ego would allow it. Even on the dream team he had the audacity to say that he led the top 11 guys in the world, like he's some type of players/coach. If he was a true teammate he would have never created this Lebron sweepstakes the last 2 years. You don't think that was a huge distraction in this series??? If he was really all about team he would have already recommitted to the team that committed everything to him already. How come he didn't come out and say "I'm staying in Cleveland and I want the best players to come here". Why does he have to go to where the best players are?? Your the King aren't you? Why would the king go become a follower?

                                Just several weeks ago he said that he was not going anywhere until he brought Cleveland a title. That looks like it was all fluff.

                                He has done nothing to improve his mid range. It's either jack up a 3 or ram his way to the basket. He wants the team to improve yet he's not willing to do the same. Leaders lead by example, not quit on the basketball court.

                                I'm glad Lebron is a Cav, he's done wonders for the team but hopefully he will come to his senses and one day own up to his own shortcomings and become a greater player and teammate.
                                Last edited by Mac4Lyfe; 05-15-10, 11:46 AM.
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                                • hoopster42
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  I guess you can say Jordan never would of won 3 more titles without Rodman

                                  Guy was a dominant force as he proved that in Detroit with 2 titles
                                  the only real star who helped jordan was scottie pippen. jordan never won without pippen, but jordan did win without rodman. before pippen got there, jordan could not win. you need two stars, not one, two stars to win a championship
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                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by hoopster42
                                    the only real star who helped jordan was scottie pippen. jordan never won without pippen, but jordan did win without rodman. before pippen got there, jordan could not win. you need two stars, not one, two stars to win a championship
                                    How do you get 2 stars when Lebron wants to be the only 1? and he hogs the ball in crunch time?
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                                    • hoopster42
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by rm18
                                      technically 4 all stars i guess Ilgauskas, Shaq, Jamison, Williams though they all suck
                                      ilgauskas made an all star team?
                                      shaq has been through for four fukking years!
                                      jamison is very overrated
                                      williams made an all star team like 5 yrs ago
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                                      • brandonlang
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                                        • 12-02-09
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                                        #54
                                        lebron james
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                                        • stealthyburrito
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by hoopster42
                                          williams made an all star team like 5 yrs ago
                                          actually made it last year, as a replacement for injury, still though mo is garbage.
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                                          • lakerboy
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                                            • 04-02-09
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by hoopster42
                                            ilgauskas made an all star team?
                                            shaq has been through for four fukking years!
                                            jamison is very overrated
                                            williams made an all star team like 5 yrs ago

                                            wasnt williams on the all star team last year?


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                                            • M@ximo
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                                              #57
                                              He has improved a lot since his first season.., but you're right.., he still have many things to learn and get more mature so he can start reading the game and understand what its better for the team...

                                              Still have a lot of time to grow.., but in order to become one of the best in this sport, he must make a quick change....
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                                              • Goat Milk
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by hoopster42

                                                ilgauskas made an all star team?
                                                shaq has been through for four fukking years!
                                                jamison is very overrated
                                                williams made an all star team like 5 yrs ago
                                                What are you smokin Will made the all star team just last year.

                                                You know what Kobe haters used to say? Kobe can't win a ring with out Shaq. You know what they say now? Kobe can't win a ring without Gasol. You know what they'll say after he retires? Kobe is a mooch. You know who is a mooch? Derick Fisher and Robet Horey and Rick Fox who got way more rings then they deserved for playing with greats.

                                                I can't fukkin stand people like you Hoopster. Fukkin excuses. FYI: Shaq played with the 2 best players in the world to win rings, then hopped to Lebron, now his fat sorry ass will ask Durant if he can play with him that fukkin lingerer.
                                                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                • hoopster42
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                  What are you smokin Will made the all star team just last year.

                                                  You know what Kobe haters used to say? Kobe can't win a ring with out Shaq. You know what they say now? Kobe can't win a ring without Gasol. You know what they'll say after he retires? Kobe is a mooch. You know who is a mooch? Derick Fisher and Robet Horey and Rick Fox who got way more rings then they deserved for playing with greats.

                                                  I can't fukkin stand people like you Hoopster. Fukkin excuses. FYI: Shaq played with the 2 best players in the world to win rings, then hopped to Lebron, now his fat sorry ass will ask Durant if he can play with him that fukkin lingerer.
                                                  you're clueless
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                                                  • hoopster42
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                                                    actually made it last year, as a replacement for injury, still though mo is garbage.
                                                    there you go. not chosen by the fans or the coaches. came in as a replacement. his defense is garbage
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                                                    • hoopster42
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                                                      #61
                                                      let's see what happens when the lakers have to play the celtics or the magic in the finals. you all havent won shit yet motherfukkers
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                                                      • Goat Milk
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by hoopster42

                                                        you're clueless
                                                        you know nothing about the nba, and anyone that says "Kobe can't win without Shaq or Gasol" will forever remain a shiton in my eyes. Take your garbage elsewhere- none of the true NBA experts here would make a statement like that.
                                                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                        • hoopster42
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                          you know nothing about the nba, and anyone that says "Kobe can't win without Shaq or Gasol" will forever remain a shiton in my eyes. Take your garbage elsewhere- none of the true NBA experts here would make a statement like that.
                                                          how did kobe do in 2005, 2006, & 2007 which was after shaq left and before gasol got here? in case you don't know, he won zero, yes zero playoff series. anyone who knows the nba knows that kobe cannot win without an excellent big man that gets the defense to sag. you have just been owned by someone with a far superior sports mind to you.

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                                                          • hoopster42
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                                                            #64
                                                            lakers records w/kobe after shaq left and before gasol got to LA

                                                            2005: 34-48
                                                            2006: 45-37
                                                            2007: 42-40

                                                            overall: 121-125 without shaq and without gasol and ZERO playoff series wins. anyone who knows shit about the nba knows that kobe cannot win without a great big man
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                                                            • Goat Milk
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by hoopster42

                                                              how did kobe do in 2005, 2006, & 2007 which was after shaq left and before gasol got here? in case you don't know, he won zero, yes zero playoff series. anyone who knows the nba knows that kobe cannot win without an excellent big man that gets the defense to sag. you have just been owned by someone with a far superior sports mind to you.

                                                              Listen Dumbfukk- in case you didn't notice, Kobe had the worst playoff team in NBA history the year they lost to the Suns in 7. If you knew anything about basketball, you would no that a starting lineup containing Smush Parker, Kwami Brown, and Luke Walton is the worst starting lineup in the history of this league. Still took them to the playoffs. You take Kobe off that team- they win 7 games in the season max.

                                                              Shaq didn't carry PHX to shit. All his stats plummeted after he left Kobe. He won a ring with D wade, then Wade screwed up his knee the next year at the heat sucked and Shaq couldn't even carry that team if his life depended on it.

                                                              You're know where near my level punk- where was Shaq this year? Punk ass couldn't hit a jump hook or play pck n roll defense to save his life. His career is over. Kobe will win more rings than him- period. You'll never win in the league today if you don't have a solid big man/at least 1 all star on your team (i.e. Gasol) besides your star player. It's not 1980 anymore.
                                                              Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                              • Goat Milk
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                                                                #66
                                                                This is what Kobe does to players who come into the league as cocky kids

                                                                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                • AmpleGamble
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by mihaita666
                                                                  cavs area shit team without lebron you will see them struggling fo the 8th spot next season if lebron is in the garden from the autumn
                                                                  This

                                                                  Although I don't care for Lebron, he means more to his team than anyone else in the playoffs does. If you take any other teams best player away, they wouldn't be near as affected as the Cavs would be without Lebron. Now, I don't think there's any excuse for Lebron and the Cavs losing to the Celtics, but it's pretty obvious his supporting cast is FAR worse then the supporting casts of the people you are trying to compare him to. (Jordan, Kobe)
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                                                                  • hoopster42
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by hoopster42
                                                                    how did kobe do in 2005, 2006, & 2007 which was after shaq left and before gasol got here? in case you don't know, he won zero, yes zero playoff series. anyone who knows the nba knows that kobe cannot win without an excellent big man that gets the defense to sag. you have just been owned by someone with a far superior sports mind to you.

                                                                    goat gets owned.

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                                                                    • hoopster42
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by AmpleGamble
                                                                      This

                                                                      Although I don't care for Lebron, he means more to his team than anyone else in the playoffs does. If you take any other teams best player away, they wouldn't be near as affected as the Cavs would be without Lebron. Now, I don't think there's any excuse for Lebron and the Cavs losing to the Celtics, but it's pretty obvious his supporting cast is FAR worse then the supporting casts of the people you are trying to compare him to. (Jordan, Kobe)
                                                                      a man who actually knows his shit. refreshing. and not only is lebron's supporting cast not as good as jordan's or kobes's has been through their careers, its not even as good as boston's or orlando's this yr.
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                                                                      • hoopster42
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by hoopster42
                                                                        lakers records w/kobe after shaq left and before gasol got to LA

                                                                        2005: 34-48
                                                                        2006: 45-37
                                                                        2007: 42-40

                                                                        overall: 121-125 without shaq and without gasol and ZERO playoff series wins. anyone who knows shit about the nba knows that kobe cannot win without a great big man
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