Remember when smacky was tracking him and he was down like 20 UNITs.....lol
what a fraud used car salesman IMO
what a fraud used car salesman IMO
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Shoe! you got it! I COMPLETELY agree. I liked his write ups. I can honestly say i didnt tail all plays, but thats because i bet so many 2h plays that my bookies limit would never allow me.
but those Secret Plays won for about a week. then they lost HUGE! remember they lost like 20+ games in a matter of 2 weeks!!!
now he sells picks? i have heard through the grapevine that his sold picks arent winning so well eithor! and i logged into his new site, BUT IT SUCKS!!! no solidarity. we knew that guy for over a year, but he will just ignore you - and post losing bets. I'm all set. and I think if you truly tracked his picks back in the day, they didn't win overall.
SexyMit was NASTY! he did win, but then again, he and CK both won in that competition. but that was 1 set of games. what makes them good enough to pay for the picks? I guess it doesn't.Comment -
I agree with all you say shoe! me and dex pm'd each other last year about CK's tracking. it was WAY off! he claimed his sp's were so much better than they were!
and those secret baseball plays, EVERYONE lost money on those. Honestly, thankfully I can't bet 1st inning plays with my local, so I didnt lose out, but CK killed people there too!Comment -
lets drop the discussion. we are only helping them advertise. keep this thread clean/free of drama.
i see BMM lurking! i cant wait to read the posts in the am...lol....im off to bed. have to work tomorrow
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I could care less I have more money and more connects than that fool can dream of, dex can back me here. All you lurkers better do your homework before buying into their propogandaComment -
He still claims his baseball plays won money....what a joke at least man the **** upComment -
agreed shoe. dex, we will not speak of this after tonight.
but i gotta say, those guys lose, they are losers, but people pay them so good for them!
Here's the thing, when CK was here touting his crappy plays, the thread was HUGE....but it was very negative at times. So I think losing the loser has helped us. less people starting fights, less touters trying to advertise, and really just a bunch of buds helping each other out! which is what I like. wish i was posting more, but i get tied up!
GL on the late night picks fellas!
SHOE, if your hitting up NBA 2h, pm me before its too late. we'll discuss in the NBA thread!
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Listen guys. I am the best NBA capper ever.
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Well someone has to be the best capper around here, and it sure isn't me... I'm just a guy that's good with stats and gets lucky sometimes. Speaking of which...
Dex / Shoe / Others: Nice call on the Orlando game. I went the other way, and suffered my worst single game loss of the year by putting too much faith in the ATL 2H. Fortunately, my DEN ML / Under 43.5 Parlay bailed my ass out for a positive night overall. Whew....
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magically delicious!
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You know that was an inside joke friend- im second bestWell someone has to be the best capper around here, and it sure isn't me... I'm just a guy that's good with stats and gets lucky sometimes. Speaking of which...
Dex / Shoe / Others: Nice call on the Orlando game. I went the other way, and suffered my worst single game loss of the year by putting too much faith in the ATL 2H. Fortunately, my DEN ML / Under 43.5 Parlay bailed my ass out for a positive night overall. Whew....
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jaymac, hit out Houston 2H!
They were down 17 at one stage, now only down 5! They've got this with 72% on Oklahoma!Comment -
did ya get a piece of it jaymac? dad ya?Comment -
Ok, a few things to get to here so let's get started: Ck, you are a liar. It was obvious to me soon after you came to SBR but apparently some people's desire to find someone to follow is so big that they are blind to what's in front of their eyes. Remember your little "secret" plays? You claimed they were hitting at over 80%. As soon as you unvelied your "system" and all your followers jumped all over it they all got killed. The few that had the balls/smarts to call bullshit on you were treated as deserters and you gave them the "You are not sharp, you are betting too much, I was 80-20 when I was the only one playing the system, I have still made enough money to retire, blah, blah" bullshit. So some people gave you a chance. I guess they wanted to believe you. Within the next 4 days your bullshit secret plays went like 3-16 including a Saturday in February where you were 0-7. So then you started saying you wouldn't post them anymore and telling your disciples to only identify them as
and not to mention them anymore. Kind of like when you wanted your first inning prop thread deleted by the mods (we'll get to that in a moment). You also claimed you were making a killing in CFB with a similar system. Your requirements for the football secret plays were a first half spread of at least 14 and no ML on the game. Needless to say, those sucked too. Now let's go to the part where you claim you know for a fact that I was getting killed. I haven't placed a wager in my life at thegreek. Anybody that wants to check on that fact is encouraged to do so. You are just a compulsive liar with NPD. I backtracked your "system" starting in 2004. Shared the files with the whole forum and told everyone that the whole key to making money was getting positive lines. Even money lines would have been ok, but even averaging -110 you would have lost money in 2 of the last 5 years. With all that being said, what makes you think that I would risk my money on your megalomaniac antics? For you to say that you know for a fact that I lost money on your bullshit is just retarded. I didn't play it and recommended nobody did, I even wished good luck to the ones that did. Thanks to TA for posting the original posting on your "system". You said to play all games regarding to pitching matchup, weather, etc. As soon as you saw your bullshit didn't work you started changing your "rules" and eventually asking the moderators to delete your thread. You are like John Morrison, you both come up with bullshit when something doesn't go your way and actually believe that everyone will take that shit. Reminds me of my daughter when she makes up rules so that I won't beat her at whatever we are playing, then again she is 5. You are easy to figure out bro, you stir up shit with unreal promises ("you'll make enough to send the kids to college" 
), you find people that want to believe there is something out there that will make them a loot, they risk their money on your shit, they lose, you make excuses, change the rules, try to eliminate all trails, etc. And then you do it again. I'm not one to get involved with crap like this. I have been on the site for a year, I post my plays with lines and amounts, I grade them, I keep records of all my shit, end of story. I challenge anyone to come over here and tell me that I have ever changed or manipulated my posts to make myself look better. I don't have a cult following like you do, that's not my goal on the forum. But there are more than a few people that have known me for a while and they know that I'm honest and I don't bullshit people like you do. Someone was grading your bets and proved you are no better than anyone with a coin. You stay around 50% and lose once you include the juice. He stated a proven fact "You never list your amounts because you can't manipulate that". You use words like "Big", "Huge", etc. to rate your plays. If you drop 2 "Big" plays today but hit your "Huge" play you come out ahead. If you drop 2 "Huge" plays but hit a "Big" play you come out ahead too. If you only have 1 play on a big favorite that loses outright then you tell people that you had a side bet on the dog's ML "to fade yourself" and you made up what you lost and the some. Anyway you slice it you come out ahead. But we are all dumb people and you are very sharp and that's the end of the story. Right? Now you said I'm a bad student. First of all, I have never wanted to study your soryy ass (maybe if I was a Psych major, but I'm a Math major and I've never seen you post any numbers on your plays so no thanks). I am open to learning from everybody that wants to teach me something. I don't feel I'm too good to admit if I'm wrong and I'm always on the lookout for people to help me win so when you came to the forum with all your bells and whistles I paid attention. But I soon learned what you were and that's why I have never lost any money on your bullshit, and believe me. I never will.
Here you go folks, another example from your money maker.Comment -
anyone who knows me was prob wondering why i faded my jazz in salt lake. im scratching my head as well this morning as i guess i thought i was walking on water yesterday. dumb bet
anytime you dont see a writeup from me in pro sports, just autofade me! lolComment -
NOTED. but im still tailin you. your gonna have to do alot worse than that to lose me. lets do this today.Comment -
Yeah I faded them against Oklahoma City, got greedy with the bulls. Bad call on my part too.Comment -
Cleveland Cavaliers - Charlotte Bobcats (Cleveland Cavaliers -4.50)
Personal meetings - 3-17 in favour of Cleveland. The bet based on statistic.Comment -
i think i remember losing about under 1000 following ck's pick. he was good for about a week and all his plays went to shit. i could vouch that guy's a tout in the making the way he talks. i follow my own plays now betting primary dogs with a few favorites here and there. this thread is very good at gauging the picks and jumping on a few bets.
keep up the good work.Comment -
11/27
Pistons -3.5 ( 5x )
GL tonight guys
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and a belated happy thanksgiving to all as well.
i'm gonna chase some steam tonight guys. san antonio/houston under 195. down from 202. that's some mother****ing steam right there.
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Tex, with all do respect, I'd blow off that steam, and double up on the OVER! both teams average over 100 pts per game. a couple nights ago houstons over kept dropping and I asked people to explain to me why. but that game went almost 30 points OVER.
TAKE THE OVER!!! houston and san antonio will score. the game will easily hit 200. if the total has dropped, we need to take advantage of it!
I think people are still betting houston totals based on last season's team. but this year they score 100 per game. the same goes for san antonio....and old team that in years past always hit the under, but for some reason this year those old ballas are giving up on defense and allowing points, while they score as well!
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right on cue!! jayplay here to advise me off an under. 41 in the first, it's looking good so far.Comment -
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by the way jay, regardless of whether or not that under hits, squares don't steam a total down 7 points. there was no research at all on my part placed in that pick other than the gaudy movement, which we don't get as much of later in the season. so i took it.Comment -
wow nevermind pacers -2, they have to go off like a mofo in the 4th and not sure that's gonna happen.Comment -
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nice call tex, follow that steam!!!Comment -
only when it's steady and thick!!!
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Dallas Mavericks - Cleveland Cavaliers (ТO 195.00) 1.99 Pinnacle
Cleveland after insulting defeat from Charlottes accepts at home Dallas. I consider that total in 195 points quite on forces to these commands. Dallas in general shows very decent game in an attack, scoring on the average more than 100 points for a match. Cleveland while searches for the game, but houses certainly will be aimed only at a victory and nearby 100 balls too. I expect resultative game.Comment -
11/28
Jazz -5 ( 2x )
POR/UTAH Under 190 ( 2x )
BOL to all of you today.
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Sat 11/28:
(3x) cavs -6.5 (A1- Autobet) fade any team playing their 4th game in 5 nights for a min of 3xComment -
(3x) jazz -5 - back to back for portland at utah where they have lost 4 of 5 ats..Comment -
lakers/warriors over 222.
where's jay? that's my 3 star special tonight.Comment
