Leans for Monday 2/23/09 schaapattack Week

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 05:23 PM

shoe, so you think i'm doing ok only paying the 1065.00 a mo. for my age and coverage?

Karayilan9 · 02-23-09, 05:25 PM

I would stay away from trying to pick a winner in that game, there are so many angles. Hull may have not won since as long as we can remember however, they have been playing much better lately and could have beat Chelsea. Tottenham have been awfull all season, however, with the players they have they really should be challenging for a place in Europe.
This match is vital for both teams, so much is at stake, both badly want this win and both are unpredictable so nothing would suprise me either team could win.

Now to me, this smells goals goals goals, neither team is comming for the draw, these teams can't play defensive their D stinks and so many of their games are over.

I'm leaning towards "Over 2.5 goals"

This just cashed, "BigDownUnder" you must be pleased aswell Tottenham did it but like I said it could have swung either way

There is Champions League and Uefa Cup soccer this week starting from tomorrow, these are the big compitions in Europe and where you can catch dogs with stupid odds, like last week I won 4 Over +500 odds games, one was as high as +800 and won easily, gonna try and find you guys the best games from them if any of you are interested.

shoebox · 02-23-09, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by nonsense48

shoe, so you think i'm doing ok only paying the 1065.00 a mo. for my age and coverage?

1mill/2mill in coverage
80/20
deductible??
cancer??
All play rolls in determining premium
1065 tie it into your shop in a section 125 plan to get that tax free, throw in a FSA for expenses and your feeling more like 800 a month.

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 05:28 PM

TodaysAction just added nhl:sjs ml 10 units sjs ml-165 at greek. i don't plays ml that high but if you like to then play it. i'm just passing on the info for T.A. good luck with it. everyone

showtime2000 · 02-23-09, 05:29 PM

Good afternoon all, good looking games tonight. Gonna roll with the following plays tonight,

Atlanta PC Play
Boston 1st Qtr
Boston game
SJ/Dal Over

Still looking at others.

showtime2000 · 02-23-09, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by Karayilan9

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This just cashed, "BigDownUnder" you must be pleased aswell Tottenham did it but like I said it could have swung either way

There is Champions League and Uefa Cup soccer this week starting from tomorrow, these are the big compitions in Europe and where you can catch dogs with stupid odds, like last week I won 4 Over +500 odds games, one was as high as +800 and won easily, gonna try and find you guys the best games from them if any of you are interested.

Kara, you find us those plays and i'll be playing them.

maddogmadden86 · 02-23-09, 05:34 PM

non, whats wrong with the gold diggers? lol
Knicks
Pc play,
so far for me Mafia

TheLemonDropKid · 02-23-09, 05:34 PM

LOL! Wow......I just cashed in on DownUnder's "Serra tennis pick". Thank you my friend!

I hate doing this....but I don't think that I'm going with the overall "big play" consensus picks for tonight. I'm trying to avoid the ones I don't agree with or play the totals instead.

So here's what I'm rockin' to:

Louisville -2
Kansas + 2.5
76ers -2
Knicks -7
Jazz/Hawks Over 205
Hornets/Kings Over 203.5
SJ/DAL Over 5.5

GL to all you stinky mofos.

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by shoebox

1mill/2mill in coverage
80/20
deductible??
cancer??
All play rolls in determining premium
1065 tie it into your shop in a section 125 plan to get that tax free, throw in a FSA for expenses and your feeling more like 800 a month.

shoe, i'm impressed. that's exactly how it's handled. so now that i have your ok i'm ok with it. no cancer or othe major illnesses. 10.00 co-pay for office visits and 10.00 co-pay on scripts. hospitalizations for major illinesses i pay next to nothing. i've never been in the hospital for any illness to this point so i'm ok

cocknocker · 02-23-09, 05:45 PM

A small moneyline hedge is only a good hedge when the opposing moneyline is over +220 or a 6.5 spread or bigger. It must be no more than 3% of your vigorish due for your wager on the points. For example on a point buy wager here. 1 point will cost you -130 at the Greek (-130), wager $1339 to make a dime and some change on the points and make a wager on the +220 for $39.00 on a nother seperate book designed for this shit.

If you lose bet A outright on your doggy wager, you will at least get a few chips back every single time you wagered with the dog and they lost to soften the brunt of a hard loss. The only thing is to make the hedge on a DIFFERENT book designed for this kind of thing.

So this way BCaldwell and shoebox are right at the same time. It so very foolish to do hedges on the same book, and that is an idiot move. I suggest that the hedge plays be on a "floating book" to satisfy the rollover play requirements of placing your money on a particular book an accepting a loading bonus.

I think of them as "peanuts wagers" designed to take outrageous moneyline plays. I make -1400 moneyline plays AND +4000 plays etc. for 30 somethin' dollars on that book in a heart beat if that means that I got $800 for moving my money to that book. What's funny is that over time the money actually starts to build up. I think it's because of taking the super heavy favorites moneylines cash at a good rate no matter what. Then you have these precious few times when one of your peanuts wagers hits a +3500 wager with even just a $25.00 wager. And all that you were trying to do was to satisfy the requirement for the rollover. Talk about giving your self a bonus. Sure I keep a fade account. And it moves every four months or depending on the seasonal promotions. Speaking of which, it's about time to shut down a Betus account for a while and then put it back in when they have their baseball promotion. March Madness is comng up anyway. Time to get some free money.

You guys stop with the bickering and get to that money. Let your money make money for you. It's the American way no? make those books pay you by taking those plays that they don't want you to play. -4200 on Cleveland for $27.50 please. Banks make money off of collecting a tenth of a penny! *uck that I want my crumbs too..

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 05:45 PM

i must say that i'm impressed with the ppl that come to ck's thread everyday. we have a group of very intelligent individuals from all over the country and other parts of the world sharing knowledge.

maddogmadden86 · 02-23-09, 05:46 PM

non god bless for the great health, and damn man u pay a little much but u get better coverage then my government employed parents
I agree non we are all here to do one thing and thats to make money so please guys stop the bickering and lets stick to the main thing at hand, with all the crazy things going on in life you should never sweat the small stuff, and take into consideration that there is always someone out there fighting a harder battle then you, lets just stay neutral with everyone and help everyone make money if u dont agree u dont no one is holding a gun to your head to push that button, we are all here to make money period!!! the end!

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 05:50 PM

i finally opend my 3rd on-line book account and the lovely lady has 2 so we have plenty of options between the 2 of us and it's working.

shoebox · 02-23-09, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by nonsense48

shoe, i'm impressed. that's exactly how it's handled. so now that i have your ok i'm ok with it. no cancer or othe major illnesses. 10.00 co-pay for office visits and 10.00 co-pay on scripts. hospitalizations for major illinesses i pay next to nothing. i've never been in the hospital for any illness to this point so i'm ok

Not only that but it lowers your payroll tax, so in essense your probably getting the plan for free or close to it depending on how many of your employees are participating. You have no idea how much it helps your bottom line. Glad to help nonsense!!

suckatmyjob · 02-23-09, 05:53 PM

sorry saving the thread for ck and sports talk i pm those that had questions

man 6 games tonight but so many plays i'm leaning towards too

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 05:53 PM

i have a book right in front of me as i type titled "Don't sweat the small stuff...and it's all small stuff" by richard carlson ph.d required reading in my opinion.

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 05:57 PM

ck, post# 185. good advice. great post.

shoebox · 02-23-09, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by suckatmyjob

sorry saving the thread for ck and sports talk i pm those that had questions

man 6 games tonight but so many plays i'm leaning towards too

This is more than a thread, more like a lounge. We talk anywhere from maddog tips on stocks to what we do to whatever. This is a different type of thread, sorry its the way it is.

suckatmyjob · 02-23-09, 05:58 PM

i'm really curious myself what everyone does besides capping and betting though

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 05:59 PM

my left palm is itching and that can only mean one thing. getting paid from someone today and hopefully it's those bastard books

cocknocker · 02-23-09, 06:01 PM

The moneyline crumbs play of the day today would be LA Clippers+135 and Murray State-135

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 06:01 PM

i own shops and a warehouse. headshops if you will but i like to refer to them as "gift shops" i sell products to other "gift shops" across the country thru my warehouse

suckatmyjob · 02-23-09, 06:03 PM

i treat betting like trading the 4 monitors i use to trade with are the exact 4 i use to place my bets i love it working from home and dont have to leave anywhere however I do love goign to sports bar or strip club just to have a change of scenery

offshore online books: betus, betonline, and thegreek
local - beteagle, betez, justwagers
locals - random guys around town - got a chinese, vietnamese, and italian (dont like italian too much everything is up front and no matter how much i win or lose he wants money up front)

trading : assent clearing (using hammer software) - strictly for daytrading, etrade for both daytrading and swingtrading, scottrade - long term or longer than swing trade, and ameritrade - 401k and long long long term trades - use to have thinkorswim and tradestation but both have been closed

TheLemonDropKid · 02-23-09, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by suckatmyjob

i'm really curious myself what everyone does besides capping and betting though

I'm Business Operations Manager for a cable contracting company.

And a very bad male stripper.......

hockeytown11 · 02-23-09, 06:04 PM

I am really thinking of taking Dallas +150 tonight at home vs San Jose,San Jose was on a MONSTER road trip in which they didnt play to well,the came home for 1 week and bamright back out to Dallas. Its a great spot for Dallas. That being said San Jose is the better team but at +150 on a home team no less might be worth a shot.

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 06:07 PM

i use my td ameritrade account to make little plays i come across from time to time but i have mostly long term with them.

hockeytown11 · 02-23-09, 06:08 PM

I booked it

DALLAS +145

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 06:10 PM

i worked for the railroad for 30 yrs. 20 yrs. of it in management. retired in '97 and went into biz for myself.

cocknocker · 02-23-09, 06:10 PM

I just placed a Clippers+135 moneyline play and after i made it i came back to check the line and the moneyline had shifted to +130 and the line went down to Golden State-3 i didn't go heavy on it or nothin'. Just a couple a hunnids and a half. It's just a hunch that I have on my personal theory on line movements and consensus numbers for the moneyline on a particular side. The Clippers are only having 11% of bettors on their moneyline plays, yet the line for the game conitnues to spiral downward. I am going to take (consensus wise) the least made wager on the board at Sportsinsights. Obviousy this is the wager that no one wants to make.

nonsense48 · 02-23-09, 06:11 PM

hockman, i took the over 5.5 in the game.

cocknocker · 02-23-09, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by hockeytown11

I booked it

DALLAS +145

Ah yes, i got it!

repski · 02-23-09, 06:12 PM

CK,
Schapp posted his Pro Picks....he likes NJ,Den,Clipshow and SAC

repski · 02-23-09, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by cocknocker

I just placed a Clippers+135 moneyline play and after i made it i came back to check the line and the moneyline had shifted to +130 and the line went down to Golden State-3 i didn't go heavy on it or nothin'. Just a couple a hunnids and a half. It's just a hunch that I have on my personal theory on line movements and consensus numbers for the moneyline on a particular side. The Clippers are only having 11% of bettors on their moneyline plays, yet the line for the game conitnues to spiral downward. I am going to take (consensus wise) the least made wager on the board at Sportsinsights. Obviousy this is the wager that no one wants to make.

if you watched the Clips game last night like I did...they make it very hard to bet in their favor....

hockeytown11 · 02-23-09, 06:18 PM

Thanks to whomever posted english soccer today,i took tottenham +120 for 500 and also over 2.5 for 500 and they scored late to win 2-1 for a cool 1100,nice to be up 1100 for the day before the night even starts

showtime2000 · 02-23-09, 06:19 PM

I'll tell you this, with the changes in the head coaching job with the New York Rangers, look for their games starting to go Over. They played waaaaaaay to consrvative under Tom Renney and now with John Torterella at the helm he should open things up and the Over should be hitting.