PHOENIX---5mike5

[the scab man]

where do u guys place bets with nascar? the sportsbook in canada near me doesnt do nascar...my book doesnt do nascar....do u do it online? thank u

[Optional]

Anyone know how 5D grades races that are shortened by the rain? Do they have to get a certain amount of laps in for it to be action? Or a %? Or....?

Not being lazy, read through the rules and they don't speak to it and I'm new to motorsports betting. Thanks in advance and keep up the great thread, good reading.

they grade based on whatever the leaderboard says when NASCAR declares the race over.

Once it is past halfway NASCAR will eventually call it over if the rain doesnt stop, with the current order. And 5D will pay on that.

If the race doesn't make halfway, it will be rescheduled.

[lovetobet]

they grade based on whatever the leaderboard says when NASCAR declares the race over.

Once it is past halfway NASCAR will eventually call it over if the rain doesnt stop, with the current order. And 5D will pay on that.

If the race doesn't make halfway, it will be rescheduled.

OK great, thanks!!

[5mike5]

F1 would be racing in this rain!

Yeah but still with a 7 second lead!

[5mike5]

where do u guys place bets with nascar? the sportsbook in canada near me doesnt do nascar...my book doesnt do nascar....do u do it online? thank u

Offshore.

But Vegas sportsbooks carry all series of NASCAR too. Several posters use those here.

Odds are usually better offshore most of the times have to have 5dimes if ur gonna bet NASCAR and use offshore.

[5mike5]

I should get a decent parlay out of Kyle (+175) winning and using a 2 driver combo prop for tomorrow's race. Plus gives me 2 bonus drivers So u don't have to bet a lot if $ on them which is always nice.

Cant wait for for tomorrow's race.

Gonna be alor of drivers in play and that could win. Pretty wide open

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8 minutes ago

[MatI]

Going by twitter, looks like it is going to start raining again?

[SubjectMatterExp]

Said tracks dry but raining again

[SubjectMatterExp]

@MRNRadio: RT @odsteve: A true downpour would probably force us to call this but so fa rain is very light and we have not lost track

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[5mike5]

Its over. No way it starts again

[Optional]

Its over. No way it starts again

yep. been called now.

Kyle wins.

[yisman]

The Blue Jeans Go Green 200 has been called due to rain with 32 laps remaining. Kyle Busch has been declared the winner.

[SubjectMatterExp]

All this rain shortened bs really makes the sport look weak IMO no wonder why lots of people talk shit about nascar

[uncle vinny]

Didnt have winner. But will take 3 of 4 matchups

[lovetobet]

All this rain shortened bs really makes the sport look weak IMO no wonder why lots of people talk shit about nascar

Due kind of agree with this, was getting into the race and wanted to see the end; pretty anti-climatic!! I had Busch in a parlay and I still feel this way, although I had Harvick at 14-1 and would have liked to see if he could have pulled a miracle for those odds, even at risk of Busch loss. From what I've seen I imagine a lot of people in this thread agree since I think almost everyone had a piece of Harvick. Oh well need to figure out how to add to my parlay to pull a win.

Mike think you said you had an open parlay with Busch also, if you have time will you post up how you're closing out/adding to that parlay before the race tomorrow. May not follow blind but I respect your opinion and would like to see what you're doing before I try to close this thing out or add a play or two. Thanks!!

[5mike5]

Yeah I always post all my plays before every race.

His is is only a 2 team parlay so ill just close with a combo prop winner probably. Gives me 2 extra drivers. But I won't know til all props are released by 11am or so.

Ill post it with all my other plays to win the race by themselves, and any other plays.

And I would never advise to blindly tail, even me in nascar. LOL. Jk. Always go with ur gut

[Jmac926]

Pretty sure thats the first time in 10 years a race has been rain shorten and I had the winner, and it happens to be a 2-1 shot lol
Ill take it though as with my matchup losses the race was pretty much a wash for me

[ChalkyDog]

Without giving away the farm (although feel free). What do you guys do to prep for a nascar race?

As in sites you hit up and when (When do you start looking at lines, and do you just follow the data that rolls in from practice, qualifying, etc?), what stats do you look at (for instance I just have only looked up practice and qualifying times. That Logan kid ran well obviously.) Do you guys use a system, betting strategy? (For instance, these guys have such high "value" if you will, you can afford to chase a bit without burning your bankroll - no idea how successful that really is though).

So, basically any tips on this shit would be great.

[lovetobet]

Yeah I always post all my plays before every race.

His is is only a 2 team parlay so ill just close with a combo prop winner probably. Gives me 2 extra drivers. But I won't know til all props are released by 11am or so.

Ill post it with all my other plays to win the race by themselves, and any other plays.

And I would never advise to blindly tail, even me in nascar. LOL. Jk. Always go with ur gut

Nice, glad to hear you post up your plays, wasn't sure. Do you typically play the Nationwide? What is a combo prop winner? Thanks for your help.

[Jmac926]

Without giving away the farm (although feel free). What do you guys do to prep for a nascar race?

As in sites you hit up and when (When do you start looking at lines, and do you just follow the data that rolls in from practice, qualifying, etc?), what stats do you look at (for instance I just have only looked up practice and qualifying times. That Logan kid ran well obviously.) Do you guys use a system, betting strategy? (For instance, these guys have such high "value" if you will, you can afford to chase a bit without burning your bankroll - no idea how successful that really is though).

So, basically any tips on this shit would be great.

I think we all have different strategies as mike apparently doesnt even watch practice and I couldnt imagine betting a race without watching practice. Some drivers perform better at different tracks and u can look up there past performances and stats at a site I use mrn.com.

We start looking at odds as soon as they come out for example carl edwards opened at 20-1 and this a very good track for him. I think about everyone bet him as he was down to 10-1 before practice ever started.

As far as systems go I dont have one and anytime ive ever chased it usually ended up badly. It took a while for me too learn not to chase, I couldnt accept a losing day at one point and went broke several times because of it.

Anyway Good Luck and Im sure so others will offer some tips for you as well

[JayHorne3]

Without giving away the farm (although feel free). What do you guys do to prep for a nascar race?

As in sites you hit up and when (When do you start looking at lines, and do you just follow the data that rolls in from practice, qualifying, etc?), what stats do you look at (for instance I just have only looked up practice and qualifying times. That Logan kid ran well obviously.) Do you guys use a system, betting strategy? (For instance, these guys have such high "value" if you will, you can afford to chase a bit without burning your bankroll - no idea how successful that really is though).

So, basically any tips on this shit would be great.

Personally, driver stats at a particular racetrack are noteworthy but I also like to watch at least 2 of the previous races. There is so much that you have to keep track of that it can be mind boggling if you do not keep solid notes. Certain driver stats and history do not mean a thing if the track has been repaved or something significant has changed. Additionally stats can be misleading sometimes as well. If you watch the races, you may be able to tell a driver that had a chance to win but something bizarre happened like running out of fuel, cut tire, etc. So if you are just looking at stats, that driver may have finished 30th twice in a row but he may actually still run very well. Mike watches previous races more than anybody here but I think it may be one of the most important tools along with keeping notes. Obviously this process can be extremely time consuming. There are about two sites that I check to get additional input on their predictions but I cannot post a link in the forums. Perhaps you can PM me, and I can send it to you.

[5mike5]

I spend no less than 25+ hours every single race week prepping for the cup race. Treat it just like a regular job. But we all do things different and think some things are important others think are not important at all.

i keep notebooks on every driver and every racetrack. Plus I watch several of the recent races. Stats are VERY deceiving in NASCAR. U can't look and say biffle finished 17th and that's it. He may have been winning and cut a tire with 9 laps left.
Like some1 said, watching practices, which imo is almost worthless. Different cars working on different things in diff tires, and they aren't racing at all or with cars racing beside them.

I started making big money when I stopped betting off practices. But they might help some but I rarely pay attention unless some1 is terrible. 1-lap practice charts are just meaningless. 10-lap averages is only thing I even glance at depending on The racetrack

It it took me years and years to get to my system of betting and researching what I personally think matters

[SubjectMatterExp]

Odds are back out and there some juicy numbers

[5mike5]

Took them down

[SubjectMatterExp]

Mine are still up

[Optional]

I used to spend a lot of time on stats and trying to value each driver and head to head accurately.

It became a real chore to put together after a couple of years and got lazy and stopped. But this worked really well for me.

Too much to explain in detail but the metrics I tried to rate were;

Championship Rank
Driver Rating - season
Last Race Result
Last Race Here
2nd Last Race Here
Driver Rating at similar tracks (last 3 years)
Pre-Event Betting Odds
Practice 1
P1 Average
Qualifying
Practice 2
P2 Average
Practice 3
P3 Average
Pre-Race Odds

I'd have different weightings for each category at different tracks. Was basically just trying to create my own market then betting on those that rated high and had odds in my favor.

Told myself I was going to back into it this year...

[Optional]

I spend no less than 25+ hours every single race week prepping for the cup race.

I want to get that serious again. I still spend loads of hours here and reading etc. So may as well focus and work it like a job.

[Big Bear]

Any plays for todays race so far?

[shaunovery]

roster so far

jimmie +550
harvick +800
edwards +1600

[sweep]

Took Edwards for the repeat @ 15-1


Gl fellas

[WolverineFan]

Mike I see ur post on what plays but I dont know what percentage of bank to play on each play cud u explain how what u play on urs..thanks my man and hope we all cash em today

[WolverineFan]

Cud someone maybe pm me where a good site to watch the previous years races is..thanks

[Jmac926]

To Win plays
3 main bets
Harvick 9-1
Keslowski 8-1
Jr 14-1

3 smaller
Khane 15-1
Edwards 20-1
Larson 85-1

parlay
1 over 3
48 over 11 +148

parlay
31 over 16
14 over 88
41 over 5 +1355

Cant wait to see how ganasi races today, i hope well. And gibbs cars seem off about like they were last fall.

Good Luck All!