PHOENIX---5mike5

**leetreaper** · 02-24-14, 04:22 PM

1st

**Vegas39** · 02-24-14, 04:42 PM

1	Kevin Harvick	4.25	4	2	3	3	4	173	0	10.8	1	13	0	124.0	detail
2	Brad Keselowski	6.50	4	0	2	3	4	56	0	16.3	4	11	0	111.2	detail
3	Denny Hamlin	8.50	4	1	3	3	3	125	0	6.5	1	28	0	104.1	detail
4	Kyle Busch	9.75	4	0	1	3	3	289	1	5.3	3	23	0	104.3	detail
5	Greg Biffle	10.00	4	0	1	2	4	40	0	15.5	3	17	0	86.2	detail
6	Jimmie Johnson	10.25	4	0	3	3	3	57	1	8.0	2	32	0	111.5	detail
7	Juan Pablo Montoya	10.25	4	0	0	1	4	12	0	18.5	6	12	0	85.1	detail
8	Dale Earnhardt Jr.	11.00	4	0	2	2	3	49	0	21.0	4	21	0	87.9	detail
9	Carl Edwards	12.50	4	1	1	1	3	158	0	18.8	1	21	0	95.7	detail
11	Kurt Busch	13.75	4	0	1	2	3	2	0	14.5	5	27	0	90.2	detail
10	Mark Martin	13.75	4	0	0	2	3	78	2	7.0	9	21	0	92.2	detail
12	Ricky Stenhouse Jr.	14.00	2	0	0	0	2	0	0	19.5	12	16	0	72.9	detail
13	Matt Kenseth	14.25	4	0	0	1	3	1	0	17.8	7	23	0	90.3	detail
14	A.J. Allmendinger	14.50	2	0	0	0	2	0	0	19.0	11	18	0	70.4	detail
15	Kasey Kahne	14.75	4	0	2	2	3	41	0	5.8	2	34	0	94.8	detail
16	Jeff Gordon	15.25	4	0	0	2	3	50	0	12.8	8	30	1	98.1	detail
17	Aric Almirola	15.50	4	0	0	0	4	0	0	15.5	12	19	0	79.1	detail
18	Tony Stewart	16.33	3	0	0	1	2	9	0	5.7	8	22	0	91.6	detail
19	Joey Logano	18.00	4	0	0	2	2	33	0	14.8	9	27	1	88.7	detail
20	Jeff Burton	18.25	4	0	0	1	3	7	0	19.8	10	33	1	79.0	detail
22	Paul Menard	19.00	4	0	0	1	3	0	0	14.0	9	31	0	78.7	detail
21	Ryan Newman	19.00	4	0	1	2	2	36	0	11.3	5	40	1	76.7	detail
23	Bobby Labonte	19.25	4	0	0	0	2	0	0	26.5	15	24	0	62.4	detail
24	Clint Bowyer	21.00	4	0	0	1	2	0	0	12.8	6	30	1	79.2	detail
25	Regan Smith	22.00	2	0	0	0	1	0	0	5.5	20	24	0	69.6	detail
27	Marcos Ambrose	23.50	4	0	0	0	2	0	0	18.3	18	32	1	69.5	detail
26	Martin Truex Jr.	23.50	4	0	0	2	2	29	0	12.8	7	43	1	69.0	detail
28	Jamie McMurray	25.00	4	0	0	0	1	2	0	23.5	18	37	1	65.8	detail
29	Elliott Sadler	25.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	22.0	25	25	0	56.5	detail
30	Casey Mears	25.50	4	0	0	0	1	0	0	32.3	14	39	1	57.1	detail
31	Brendan Gaughan	27.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	40.0	27	27	0	47.4	detail
32	Travis Kvapil	27.25	4	0	0	0	2	4	0	35.3	19	41	1	49.5	detail
33	J.J. Yeley	27.67	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	32.3	26	29	0	44.3	detail
34	Dave Blaney	28.00	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	33.3	23	33	0	45.0	detail
35	Danica Patrick	29.67	3	0	0	0	1	0	0	36.3	17	39	1	45.1	detail
38	Justin Allgaier	31.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	25.0	31	31	0	47.9	detail
37	Sam Hornish Jr.	31.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	26.0	31	31	1	65.4	detail
36	David Stremme	31.00	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	37.3	29	34	1	38.9	detail
39	David Gilliland	31.25	4	0	0	0	0	2	0	32.8	24	37	2	49.5	detail
40	Timmy Hill	31.50	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	39.5	29	34	0	33.4	detail
41	David Ragan	32.75	4	0	0	0	0	4	0	30.3	25	38	2	45.4	detail
42	Landon Cassill	33.50	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	31.8	25	42	1	41.4	detail
43	Ken Schrader	34.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	42.0	34	34	1	29.8	detail
45	Stephen Leicht	35.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	35.0	35	35	1	33.9	detail
44	David Reutimann	35.00	4	0	0	0	0	1	0	34.3	25	40	3	46.1	detail
46	Mike Bliss	35.67	3	0	0	0	0	1	0	37.7	24	42	2	36.7	detail
47	Josh Wise	36.50	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	33.8	35	38	3	33.9	detail
49	Joe Nemechek	37.00	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	41.3	31	40	3	32.2	detail
48	Reed Sorenson	37.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	24.0	37	37	1	36.3	detail
50	Michael McDowell	37.67	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	34.7	32	43	2	34.8	detail
51	Cole Whitt	40.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	29.0	40	40	1	39.5	detail
52	Robby Gordon	41.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	39.0	41	41	1	30.4	detail
53	Scott Speed	41.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	28.0	41	41	1	31.5	detail
54	Jason Leffler	42.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	40.0	42	42	1	28.8	detail
55	Scott Riggs	42.50	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	33.0	42	43	2	30.0	detail
56	Tony Raines	43.00	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	41.0	43	43	1	26.3	detail

**shaunovery** · 02-24-14, 06:33 PM

Yes real work starts here .

**5mike5** · 02-24-14, 07:21 PM

I didn't have any luck at wih Daytona. Need a winner this week

**Vegas39** · 02-24-14, 07:27 PM

Have a feeling the 11 will be strong this weekend

**JayHorne3** · 02-24-14, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Have a feeling the 11 will be strong this weekend

Totally agree. Harvick has been stout here recently but will that continue in new equipment, new team? Not too confident for whatever reason

**shaunovery** · 02-24-14, 07:38 PM

Strange Kenseth not the greatest round here but Denny and Kyle quite strong

**Vegas39** · 02-24-14, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by JayHorne3

Totally agree. Harvick has been stout here recently but will that continue in new equipment, new team? Not too confident for whatever reason

Was thinking same on Harvick , just not sure as strong here as in past.

**Vegas39** · 02-24-14, 07:47 PM

TheGreek has their odds up
Nascar The Profit at CNBC 500 Feb 28 - Mar 2, 2014 - Odds to win

[*=left] Driver To Win Nascar The Profit At CNBC 500
FEB 28, 2014 | 11:00 AM

Jimmie Johnson
+600

Denny Hamlin
+700

Kyle Busch
+800

Kevin Harvick
+800

Brad Keselowski
+1000

Jeff Gordon
+1000

Matt Kenseth
+1000

Dale Earnhardt Jr
+1200

Tony Stewart
+1500

Kasey Kahne
+1500

Kurt Busch
+1500

Carl Edwards
+1500

Clint Bowyer
+2000

Joey Logano
+2000

Ryan Newman
+3000

Greg Biffle
+3000

Brian Vickers
+4000

Martin Truex Jr
+4000

Jamie McMurray
+4000

Austin Dillon
+5000

Field
+2000

**5mike5** · 02-24-14, 08:21 PM

Unlike any other year , is gonna take 2 months to really get a good read in harvick, Kurt, Newman, Larson, truex, ect ect and if odds reflect this. Probably not books dot know better not to. LOL.

I'm not sure f I'll stay away or not. Especially after what kennseth did with a new team and manufacter last seaso. Could go either way for a few if these guys

**Vegas39** · 02-24-14, 08:31 PM

Oh he will win races I just think may take more time to gel.

**lesterdymond** · 02-24-14, 10:05 PM

Hey Mikey, missed last weekend due to a family matter.. It was a bummer man but it looks like I saved myself a few bucks in the end.

GL this season Hope I will see a few H2H's from ya this weekend.

**Vegas39** · 02-24-14, 10:22 PM

Sorry to hear about family issues Lester

**5mike5** · 02-24-14, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by lesterdymond

Hey Mikey, missed last weekend due to a family matter.. It was a bummer man but it looks like I saved myself a few bucks in the end.

GL this season Hope I will see a few H2H's from ya this weekend.

Hope family issues get better soon buddy

u didn't miss much from me, i had a lack luster speed weeks and I stopped betting jr so in future I'll be looking again. B4 I never would from losing on him there. Oh well his week we turn it around immediately. Hope to see ya aroud his weekend for Phoenix

**5mike5** · 02-24-14, 11:34 PM

I lost the 1st three races last season h til I starting catching fire. On the cup series anyways.

Would like to get warmer up a lot earlier this season!

**5mike5** · 02-24-14, 11:40 PM

There's def going to be a wait and see approach on the guys that switched teams and the younger guys. And it will take months probably to get the feel we need. Also Came with the Gen6 for me to really last season

**JayHorne3** · 02-25-14, 12:31 AM

Odds at Dimes are posted

**Vegas39** · 02-25-14, 12:36 AM

+2000 on last years race winner here

**JayHorne3** · 02-25-14, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by Vegas39

+2000 on last years race winner here

Saw that too bud, very tempting

**uncle vinny** · 02-25-14, 10:49 AM

since the repave, this track races alot like richmond. use to anyways, but now it is really close. if you flip the front and back streches almost identacle, except for the extra 1/4 mile in distance and the passing grove on the flat. however, really close. and the results bare that as well. hamlin (which i think you guys all had) edwards (which some of us had) and harvick (which i think everyone had) and edwards could have (should have) won if not for running out of fuel. but harvick did as well prior to the last stop so even steven.

this race will be a little different since there are no longe any ride heights so i think that the guys that like loose cars willbe good. one early play based on that is biffle at anything over 22/1. not to mention last year biffle started in the back and made it to the front for a stint. this is a very hard track to pass on, so maybe mike you can tell us ...did he race to the front or use pit calls to get there. in the first race. hamlin and busch both started at back for engines and raced up front. again same question as you say you re watch the races.

thanks in advance for that information.

also, mathucps fade jr. only kenseth way back when has gone back to back first to races. jr flying all over the country for interviews, yesterday on race hub said he still hasnt hit the wall. but its coming

**sweep** · 02-25-14, 12:29 PM

NASCAR Track: Phoenix International Raceway

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Track Vitals

Location
Avondale, Arizona

Distance / Track Type
1 Mile Oval 9-11 degree bank

Sprint Cup Top Race Speed
118.132 by Tony Stewart on 11/7/1999

Sprint Cup Top Qualifying Speed
138.766 by Kyle Busch on 11/9/2012

Nationwide Top Race Speed
115.145 by Jeff Burton on 11/4/2000

Nationwide Top Qualifying Speed
133.819 by Kyle Busch on 11/4/2004

Camping World Truck Top Race Speed
108.014 by Kevin Harvick on 11/8/2002

Camping World Truck Top Qualifying Speed
134.439 by Nelson Piquet Jr. on 11/9/2012

Sprint Cup Schedule
Date	Race
Sun. 3/3	Subway Fresh Fit 500 Results \| RaceTrax
Sun. 11/10	AdvoCare 500 at Phoenix

Nationwide Schedule
Date	Race
Sat. 3/2	Dollar General 200 fueled by AmeriGas Results
Sat. 11/9	Phoenix 200

Camping World Schedule
Date	Race
Fri. 11/8	Lucas Oil 150

Top Five Active Drivers at Phoenix International Raceway

Sprint Cup | Nationwide | Camping World

Driver	Starts	Poles	Wins	Top 5	Top 10	Avg Start	Avg Finish	Laps Comp. (% of all laps)	Laps Led
Jimmie Johnson	20	1	4	13	16	12.5	6.45	6282 (99.62%)	932
Mark Martin	33	3	2	12	21	11.64	9.42	10165 (98.1%)	911
Denny Hamlin	16	1	1	8	9	12.5	9.81	5045 (99.8%)	399
Jeff Gordon	29	3	2	10	20	10.93	11.38	8889 (97.53%)	389
Carl Edwards	18	3	2	7	11	11.94	11.83	5407 (95.16%)	350

Complete Active Driver Sta

**JayHorne3** · 02-25-14, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by uncle vinny

since the repave, this track races alot like richmond. use to anyways, but now it is really close. if you flip the front and back streches almost identacle, except for the extra 1/4 mile in distance and the passing grove on the flat. however, really close. and the results bare that as well. hamlin (which i think you guys all had) edwards (which some of us had) and harvick (which i think everyone had) and edwards could have (should have) won if not for running out of fuel. but harvick did as well prior to the last stop so even steven.

this race will be a little different since there are no longe any ride heights so i think that the guys that like loose cars willbe good. one early play based on that is biffle at anything over 22/1. not to mention last year biffle started in the back and made it to the front for a stint. this is a very hard track to pass on, so maybe mike you can tell us ...did he race to the front or use pit calls to get there. in the first race. hamlin and busch both started at back for engines and raced up front. again same question as you say you re watch the races.

thanks in advance for that information.

also, mathucps fade jr. only kenseth way back when has gone back to back first to races. jr flying all over the country for interviews, yesterday on race hub said he still hasnt hit the wall. but its coming

Good post Vinny,

I think you could also compare the last couple spring Richmond races for that very reason. Harvick (2013 winner) and Kyle Busch (2012 &2011 winner).

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 02-25-14, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

+2000 on last years race winner here

Originally posted by JayHorne3

Saw that too bud, very tempting

That makes 3 of us.

**5mike5** · 02-25-14, 04:40 PM

I think everybody and their brother will at least look at Edwards and Kyle.

lkke I said earlier, I'm not convinced about harvick or any new team and driver til I see them on sidderent racetracks for a while and depending on their odds

**avssakic** · 02-25-14, 06:00 PM

Newman 33-1 looks enticing

**5mike5** · 02-25-14, 08:11 PM

Felt great spending 7 hours just today flipping and editing my driver notebooks. Watched a few races. Feels like I'm back at the job, but not actually in the groove yet

**Vegas39** · 02-25-14, 11:52 PM

Few race match ups posted but none yet for qualifying

**5mike5** · 02-26-14, 09:32 AM

Nationwide is STACKED this weekend

**5mike5** · 02-26-14, 10:06 AM

Not sure why I thought I started 0-3 last year , but I has a big payday off harvick winning Phoenix after the 500. Just didn't have Edwards in the fall. Has to check my thread here after seeing that in my notebook from last year'a spring race. Just has mentioned I had bad start but I didn't.

Watching last years races already this morning after both from 2013 and watched spring 2012. So just sitting here working still editing notes

Made a few plays yesterday and if course they dropped like a rock but worse tha last year it seemed. Hope that doesn't continue.

Might need to to have more friends work on funding accounts for me.

.

**5mike5** · 02-26-14, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by 5mike5

Felt great spending 7 hours just today flipping and editing my driver notebooks. Watched a few races. Feels like I'm back at the job, but not actually in the groove yet

It's like riding a bike, I'm back in the working day groove now. Luckily my woman now works from 9-6 except Thursdays during the week so its nice and quite. Ahhhh. Love this time of year

**5mike5** · 02-26-14, 10:31 AM

NBCsports network strats up a NASCAR show called NASCAR America every weekday at 5pm for. 30 min. I had never heard if it so I'm pretty sure its a new show

**onlooker** · 02-26-14, 10:36 AM

Date	Event	Time	Radio/TV
WED 2/26	Mexico Toyota Series Practice	8:00 p.m. - 8:45 p.m.
	Mexico Toyota Series Practice	9:15 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.
THURS 2/27	K&N Pro Series West Practice	11:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.
	K&N Pro Series West Final Practice	12:30 p.m. - 1:30 p.m.
	K&N Pro Series West Qualifying	3:30 p.m.
	Mexico Toyota Series Practice	5:05 p.m. - 6:30 p.m.
	K&N Pro Series Talking Stick Resort 75	7:00 p.m.
FRI 2/28	Mexico Toyota Series Final Practice	12:00 p.m. - 12:50 p.m.
	Nationwide Series Practice	1:00 p.m. - 1:50 p.m.	FS1
	Sprint Cup Series Practice	2:00 p.m. - 3:30 p.m.	FS1
	Mexico Toyota Series Qualifying	3:40 p.m.
	Nationwide Series Final Practice	5:00 p.m. - 6:25 p.m.	FS1
	Sprint Cup Qualifying	6:40 p.m.	FS1
	Mexico Toyota Series Toyota 120	9:00 p.m.
SAT 3/1	Sprint Cup Series Practice	11:00 a.m. - 11:55 a.m.	FS1
	Nationwide Series Qualifying	12:10 p.m.	FS2
	Sprint Cup Series Final Practice	2:00 p.m. - 2:50 p.m.	FS2
	Radio Pre-Race	3:15 p.m.	MRN
	TV Pre-Race	3:30 p.m.	ABC
	Nationwide Series Blue Jeans Go Green 200	3:45 p.m.	MRN/ABC
SUN 3/2	Radio Pre-Race	2:00 p.m.	MRN
	TV Pre-Race	2:30 p.m.	FOX
	Sprint Cup Series The PROFIT On CNBC 500	3:00 p.m.	MRN/FOX

ALL TIMES EASTERN (Local time two hours behind)

**Vegas39** · 02-26-14, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by 5mike5

Not sure why I thought I started 0-3 last year , but I has a big payday off harvick winning Phoenix after the 500. Just didn't have Edwards in the fall. Has to check my thread here after seeing that in my notebook from last year'a spring race. Just has mentioned I had bad start but I didn't.

Watching last years races already this morning after both from 2013 and watched spring 2012. So just sitting here working still editing notes

Made a few plays yesterday and if course they dropped like a rock but worse tha last year it seemed. Hope that doesn't continue.

Might need to to have more friends work on funding accounts for me.

.

You are backwards Edwards won first race here last year

**uncle vinny** · 02-26-14, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by 5mike5

Not sure why I thought I started 0-3 last year , but I has a big payday off harvick winning Phoenix after the 500. Just didn't have Edwards in the fall. Has to check my thread here after seeing that in my notebook from last year'a spring race. Just has mentioned I had bad start but I didn't.

Watching last years races already this morning after both from 2013 and watched spring 2012. So just sitting here working still editing notes

Made a few plays yesterday and if course they dropped like a rock but worse tha last year it seemed. Hope that doesn't continue.

Might need to to have more friends work on funding accounts for me.

.

edwards won the spring and harvick the fall