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  • JBEX
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 23396

    #246
    Originally posted by JBEX
    good time to point out an alternate opportunity

    7 .. horse field

    odds top four ..9-5/3/7-2/4..big gap

    mine 30-1 (finished 4th)





    if you're trying to take advantage of she's more likely to come 3rd or 4th then a 10 cent super costs $1.20 each spot and paid an outrageous $41 ..possible you just could've went for 4th ( which is not ridiculous with this odds scenario ) making the roi even higher

    not 2nd guessing here ..just pointing out something that's realistic and you might consider doing if you were playing in real time
    if your doing 3rd and 4th it's not unrealistic to play the latter super twice .. certainly more likely to be 4th than 3rd statistically





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    • JBEX
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-02-12
      • 23396

      #247
      baq


      R2 #6 bossy pants (6-1)
      @ 1:34


      R3 #9 copernicus (6-1)
      @ 2:03


      R5 #9 king freud (8-1)
      @ 3:07




      .


      R6 #4 being betty (5-1)
      @ 3:39

      R7 #1 yo banana boy (12-1)
      @ 4:11

      R9 #9 laurana (4-1)
      @ 5:13

      keep an eye on weather ..latter part of the card might be bad and R6 and 9 are turf races..no play if off
      Last edited by JBEX; 06-14-24, 10:35 AM.
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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 23396

        #248
        Originally posted by JBEX
        good time to point out an alternate opportunity

        7 .. horse field

        odds top four ..9-5/3/7-2/4..big gap

        mine 30-1 (finished 4th)





        if you're trying to take advantage of she's more likely to come 3rd or 4th then a 10 cent super costs $1.20 each spot and paid an outrageous $41 ..possible you just could've went for 4th ( which is not ridiculous with this odds scenario ) making the roi even higher

        not 2nd guessing here ..just pointing out something that's realistic and you might consider doing if you were playing in real time
        seemed to good to be true .. keying 4 horses in a super makes 24 combos and not 12..so $41 for every $2.40..sorry
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        • BOA12
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-19-12
          • 20622

          #249
          Originally posted by JBEX
          delaware


          R5 #3 beware of pride (6-1)
          @ 2:30







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          Guru special, a great race for the kids to see what CLASS is.
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          • BOA12
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-19-12
            • 20622

            #250
            Originally posted by JBEX
            seemed to good to be true .. keying 4 horses in a super makes 24 combos and not 12..so $41 for every $2.40..sorry
            My dad use to say, guys that play gimmicks , sleep in the park.

            He would've known, he worked for the Chicago Park District.
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            • JBEX
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 23396

              #251
              Originally posted by BOA12
              My dad use to say, guys that play gimmicks , sleep in the park.

              He would've known, he worked for the Chicago Park District.
              didn't mean that b o a ..nothing wrong with a 16-1 return

              think one of the big lessons here is if you bury the ego aspect of winning ..having to show your $38.60 winner to everyone..more times than not he's finishing 3rd or 4th..that's good capping to get that happening more than it should and then structuring tickets around that..if you don't cash those 3rd and 4ths you're missing more opportunities than hitting that occasional one that does win ..plus my casual experience with this is these triples and supers often (not always of course) pay more than they should ..large majority of the time focusing on the top 3-5 horses to fill the 1st ,2nd and 3rd (supers) ..think it might be an edge for as a said ,players are more concerned with ego vs what might actually make them money..when that $38 horse does win ,you don't have it but feel good that you had the right idea and many more times than not you'll have a triple or super that most won't because of ego or/and just not thinking about the strategy in the first place

              never applied it officially over time but I do believe in the approach ..speaking about it for the casual player to possibly make some of those hits they may otherwise leave on the table by doing it the traditional, obvious shoot for the win with bombs way




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              • JBEX
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 23396

                #252
                Originally posted by BOA12
                Guru special, a great race for the kids to see what CLASS is.
                thanks
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                • JBEX
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 23396

                  #253
                  Originally posted by JBEX
                  didn't mean that b o a ..nothing wrong with a 16-1 return

                  think one of the big lessons here is if you bury the ego aspect of winning ..having to show your $38.60 winner to everyone..more times than not he's finishing 3rd or 4th..that's good capping to get that happening more than it should and then structuring tickets around that..if you don't cash those 3rd and 4ths you're missing more opportunities than hitting that occasional one that does win ..plus my casual experience with this is these triples and supers often (not always of course) pay more than they should ..large majority of the time focusing on the top 3-5 horses to fill the 1st ,2nd and 3rd (supers) ..think it might be an edge for as a said ,players are more concerned with ego vs what might actually make them money..when that $38 horse does win ,you don't have it but feel good that you had the right idea and many more times than not you'll have a triple or super that most won't because of ego or/and just not thinking about the strategy in the first place

                  never applied it officially over time but I do believe in the approach ..speaking about it for the casual player to possibly make some of those hits they may otherwise leave on the table by doing it the traditional, obvious shoot for the win with bombs way




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                  I understand you're not always going to get the right horses on top when your longie runs underneath but sticking to the top 3 or 4 and if you like 1 more outside of them add or replace with it you'll catch a good % of them ..one winner makes up for a lot of losers
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                  • BOA12
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-19-12
                    • 20622

                    #254
                    Originally posted by JBEX
                    didn't mean that b o a ..nothing wrong with a 16-1 return

                    think one of the big lessons here is if you bury the ego aspect of winning ..having to show your $38.60 winner to everyone..more times than not he's finishing 3rd or 4th..that's good capping to get that happening more than it should and then structuring tickets around that..if you don't cash those 3rd and 4ths you're missing more opportunities than hitting that occasional one that does win ..plus my casual experience with this is these triples and supers often (not always of course) pay more than they should ..large majority of the time focusing on the top 3-5 horses to fill the 1st ,2nd and 3rd (supers) ..think it might be an edge for as a said ,players are more concerned with ego vs what might actually make them money..when that $38 horse does win ,you don't have it but feel good that you had the right idea and many more times than not you'll have a triple or super that most won't because of ego or/and just not thinking about the strategy in the first place

                    never applied it officially over time but I do believe in the approach ..speaking about it for the casual player to possibly make some of those hits they may otherwise leave on the table by doing it the traditional, obvious shoot for the win with bombs way




                    My favorite bets were $20 Quinella Boxe on the turf at Arlington, $1 Tri Key 1/23456 at Hawthorne and $20Win $60PLace anywhere on the One or Two days on the weekend I played live.

                    Intra-Race only. Morphed into DD & P3s. Mostly avoid P4's and P6's. Inter-Races.

                    I've morphed back /down to mostly WP, EXBX and inter racing DD and P3's.



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                    Originally posted by JBEX
                    I understand you're not always going to get the right horses on top when your longie runs underneath but sticking to the top 3 or 4 and if you like 1 more outside of them add or replace with it you'll catch a good % of them ..one winner makes up for a lot of losers
                    I use to like to take In a $1 TRI by Boxing my top 3 for WP with 3 others for $24.

                    Not bad mouthing any wager Guru , only the toughness in the toughest sport going in.

                    Guru's have survived economic depressions and short losing streaks throughout History.
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                    • JBEX
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-02-12
                      • 23396

                      #255
                      Originally posted by BOA12
                      I use to like to take In a $1 TRI by Boxing my top 3 for WP with 3 others for $24.

                      Not bad mouthing any wager Guru , only the toughness in the toughest sport going in.

                      Guru's have survived economic depressions and short losing streaks throughout History.
                      so 123/123/123456

                      3rd where your most likely to get the price so makes sense to cover more there


                      basis of my bet is getting the price horse in 3rd or 4th so I only have him to key him underneath ..going to miss a lot more but will also save bank along the way with fewer combos ..can be frustrating when the key happens and top 2 or 3 spots don't but that's all part of it
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                      • JBEX
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-02-12
                        • 23396

                        #256
                        added aqu 3 5 .. post 247
                        Last edited by JBEX; 06-14-24, 10:45 AM.
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                        • BOA12
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-19-12
                          • 20622

                          #257
                          Originally posted by JBEX
                          so 123/123/123456

                          3rd where your most likely to get the price so makes sense to cover more there


                          basis of my bet is getting the price horse in 3rd or 4th so I only have him to key him underneath ..going to miss a lot more but will also save bank along the way with fewer combos ..can be frustrating when the key happens and top 2 or 3 spots don't but that's all part of it
                          Don't think or can't remember seeing any Inter Race wagers in your Show or past posting history.

                          Observation of a wagering philosophy for amusement or educational purposes only.

                          Guru's use the odds and gambling god's to get even. Right On.
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                          • BOA12
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-19-12
                            • 20622

                            #258
                            Originally posted by JBEX
                            baq


                            R2 #6 bossy pants (6-1)
                            @ 1:34


                            R3 #9 copernicus (6-1)
                            @ 2:03


                            R5 #9 king freud (8-1)
                            @ 3:07




                            .









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                            Investing $12 in a 2-4-6 WPS Parlay starting R2, hopefully with my one and out $$$ from R1.

                            More than a freelin' Friday.
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                            • JBEX
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-02-12
                              • 23396

                              #259
                              Originally posted by BOA12
                              Don't think or can't remember seeing any Inter Race wagers in your Show or past posting history.

                              Observation of a wagering philosophy for amusement or educational purposes only.

                              Guru's use the odds and gambling god's to get even. Right On.


                              do you mean "123/123/123456" ?

                              I was just giving an example of what you meant with your triple strategy if that's correct
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                              • JBEX
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-02-12
                                • 23396

                                #260
                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                do you mean "123/123/123456" ?

                                I was just giving an example of what you meant with your triple strategy if that's correct
                                if not I never (or rarely) say play pick 3 or 4's
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                                • JBEX
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 23396

                                  #261
                                  added aqu 6 7 9 to post 247
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                                  • JBEX
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-02-12
                                    • 23396

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by JBEX
                                    baq


                                    R2 #6 bossy pants (6-1)
                                    @ 1:34


                                    R3 #9 copernicus (6-1)
                                    @ 2:03


                                    R5 #9 king freud (8-1)
                                    @ 3:07




                                    .


                                    R6 #4 being betty (5-1)
                                    @ 3:39

                                    R7 #1 yo banana boy (12-1)
                                    @ 4:11

                                    R9 #9 laurana (4-1)
                                    @ 5:13

                                    keep an eye on weather ..latter part of the card might be bad and R6 and 9 are turf races..no play if off
                                    churchill

                                    R2 #9 the toner (7-2)
                                    @1:14


                                    R4 #6 kimchi cat (8-1)
                                    @ 2:13


                                    R5 #8 El matador (6-1)
                                    @ 2:45


                                    R6 #7 boutwell time (7-2)
                                    @3:18



                                    R9 #7 unstable princess (10-1)
                                    @ 4:55





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                                    Last edited by JBEX; 06-14-24, 12:05 PM.
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                                    • JBEX
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-02-12
                                      • 23396

                                      #263
                                      added cd 5 6
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                                      • BOA12
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-19-12
                                        • 20622

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by JBEX
                                        do you mean "123/123/123456" ?

                                        I was just giving an example of what you meant with your triple strategy if that's correct
                                        Yes, an example of my triple strategy 123/123/123456 in today's market $12 at .50 cents.

                                        I meant DD P3 P4,.,.. multiple leg wagers between different races as you indicated above..

                                        Let's go At BAQ.
                                        Last edited by BOA12; 06-14-24, 12:13 PM.
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                                        • JBEX
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 23396

                                          #265
                                          added cd 9
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                                          • JBEX
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 23396

                                            #266
                                            Originally posted by BOA12
                                            Yes, an example of my triple strategy 123/123/123456 in today's market $12 at .50 cents.

                                            I meant DD P3 P4,.,.. multiple leg wagers between different races.


                                            Let's go At BAQ.

                                            ok that's what I thought second time around..after a few days of "1-a -days" have 11 today lol..liked what I saw and wouldn't force it ..bol today
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                                            • BOA12
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-19-12
                                              • 20622

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by JBEX
                                              ok that's what I thought second time around..after a few days of "1-a -days" have 11 today lol..liked what I saw and wouldn't force it ..bol today
                                              One and Out $1 Ex $101.75.

                                              Drawn back in.

                                              House $$$ for WPS Parlay.
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                                              • JBEX
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-02-12
                                                • 23396

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by BOA12
                                                One and Out $1 Ex $101.75.

                                                Drawn back in.

                                                House $$$ for WPS Parlay.
                                                nice job
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                                                • Easy-Rider 66
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 02-14-12
                                                  • 36098

                                                  #269
                                                  6/14: Invest 36/Return 37.72

                                                  YTD: Thru Breeders Cup 2024:
                                                  Invest/Return

                                                  432/429.51

                                                  NOTES: JBEX with his highest volume yet for a specific day . broke about even for today and overall YTD.
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                                                  • JBEX
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                    • 23396

                                                    #270
                                                    being betty would've made the difference..3rd half length @ 13-1
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                                                    • Jellymancan
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-09-20
                                                      • 3695

                                                      #271
                                                      Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                      6/14: Invest 36/Return 37.72

                                                      YTD: Thru Breeders Cup 2024:
                                                      Invest/Return

                                                      432/429.51

                                                      NOTES: JBEX with his highest volume yet for a specific day . broke about even for today and overall YTD.
                                                      Excellent job so far, J.
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                                                      • JBEX
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 23396

                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by Jellymancan
                                                        Excellent job so far, J.
                                                        thanks jelly ..saw you liked yo banana boy and being betty also..was amazed on the fox broadcast that kinchen didn't like the latter (one of the reasons) because she'd be
                                                        far back early ..I was expecting her to run close-up (as she did) like the time she just missed doing this in her 2nd start..understand not showing speed in her last 2 routes was his reason for thinking this
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                                                        • JBEX
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 23396

                                                          #273
                                                          baq

                                                          R3 #9 bertrille (15-1)
                                                          @ 1:34


                                                          R4 #3 reynolds channel (7-2)
                                                          @ 2:05

                                                          R7 #6 magical better (15-1)
                                                          @ 3:40



                                                          delaware


                                                          R5 #8 atlanta's acuna (15-1)
                                                          @ 2:30



                                                          emerald

                                                          R4 #8 dynamic secret (8-1) lower
                                                          1WP @ 6:16


                                                          R5 #1 lil miracle man (6-1)
                                                          1WP




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                                                          Last edited by JBEX; 06-15-24, 12:29 PM.
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                                                          • JBEX
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-02-12
                                                            • 23396

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                            6/14: Invest 36/Return 37.72

                                                            YTD: Thru Breeders Cup 2024:
                                                            Invest/Return

                                                            432/429.51

                                                            NOTES: JBEX with his highest volume yet for a specific day . broke about even for today and overall YTD.
                                                            just for reference bets are either 2 (1WP) or 4 (2WP) so at an avg of about 3/race (w/o counting) # of plays probably around 140
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                                                            • BOA12
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-19-12
                                                              • 20622

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by JBEX
                                                              baq

                                                              R3 #9 bertrille (15-1)
                                                              @ 1:34

                                                              R4 #3 reynolds channel (7-2)
                                                              @ 2:05

                                                              R7 #6 magical better (15-1)
                                                              @ 3:40



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                                                              Lest you object, Will invest in a $2Win $3Place $4 for Show WPS Parlay.

                                                              Works for me.



                                                              Update R3 Off Turf #9 Scratched.



                                                              Start with R4 #3.//


                                                              3rd X- X-$2.60 on life support +5.20



                                                              R7 #6 - $1Win $2Place $2Show//


                                                              3rd X-X-$4.20
                                                              Last edited by BOA12; 06-15-24, 02:50 PM. Reason: Update
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                                                              • JBEX
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 23396

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by BOA12
                                                                Lest you object, Will invest in a $2Win $3Place $4 for Show WPS Parlay.

                                                                Works for me.



                                                                Update R3 Off Turf #9 Scratched.



                                                                Start with R4 #3.

                                                                bol b o a

                                                                thanks for the R3 off the turf update
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                                                                • BOA12
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-19-12
                                                                  • 20622

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                  bol b o a

                                                                  thanks for the R3 off the turf update
                                                                  Updates and rebates, they never hurt any cause.

                                                                  Did you live/grow up closer to AQU Or BEL?
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                                                                  • JBEX
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                                    • 23396

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by BOA12
                                                                    Updates and rebates, they never hurt any cause.

                                                                    Did you live/grow up closer to AQU Or BEL?
                                                                    grew up < 10 miles away from aqu and bel..moved away a couple of years before I had any interest in it..folks only mild fans but they were at bel for secretariat
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                                                                    • JBEX
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 23396

                                                                      #279
                                                                      added del 5 .. post 273
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                                                                      • BOA12
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 02-19-12
                                                                        • 20622

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                        grew up < 10 miles away from aqu and bel..moved away a couple of years before I had any interest in it..folks only mild fans but they were at bel for secretariat
                                                                        Onion, the only horse to defeat Secretariat at the graveyard Of champions.

                                                                        This was B4 my time too, I took interest in '76.
                                                                        Last edited by BOA12; 06-15-24, 12:42 PM.
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