if you're trying to take advantage of she's more likely to come 3rd or 4th then a 10 cent super costs $1.20 each spot and paid an outrageous $41 ..possible you just could've went for 4th ( which is not ridiculous with this odds scenario ) making the roi even higher
not 2nd guessing here ..just pointing out something that's realistic and you might consider doing if you were playing in real time
if your doing 3rd and 4th it's not unrealistic to play the latter super twice .. certainly more likely to be 4th than 3rd statistically
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#247
baq
R2 #6 bossy pants (6-1)
@ 1:34
R3 #9 copernicus (6-1)
@ 2:03
R5 #9 king freud (8-1)
@ 3:07
.
R6 #4 being betty (5-1)
@ 3:39
R7 #1 yo banana boy (12-1)
@ 4:11
R9 #9 laurana (4-1)
@ 5:13
keep an eye on weather ..latter part of the card might be bad and R6 and 9 are turf races..no play if off
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#248
Originally posted by JBEX
good time to point out an alternate opportunity
7 .. horse field
odds top four ..9-5/3/7-2/4..big gap
mine 30-1 (finished 4th)
if you're trying to take advantage of she's more likely to come 3rd or 4th then a 10 cent super costs $1.20 each spot and paid an outrageous $41 ..possible you just could've went for 4th ( which is not ridiculous with this odds scenario ) making the roi even higher
not 2nd guessing here ..just pointing out something that's realistic and you might consider doing if you were playing in real time
seemed to good to be true .. keying 4 horses in a super makes 24 combos and not 12..so $41 for every $2.40..sorry
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20437
#249
Originally posted by JBEX
delaware
R5 #3 beware of pride (6-1)
@ 2:30
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Guru special, a great race for the kids to see what CLASS is.
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20437
#250
Originally posted by JBEX
seemed to good to be true .. keying 4 horses in a super makes 24 combos and not 12..so $41 for every $2.40..sorry
My dad use to say, guys that play gimmicks , sleep in the park.
He would've known, he worked for the Chicago Park District.
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#251
Originally posted by BOA12
My dad use to say, guys that play gimmicks , sleep in the park.
He would've known, he worked for the Chicago Park District.
didn't mean that b o a ..nothing wrong with a 16-1 return
think one of the big lessons here is if you bury the ego aspect of winning ..having to show your $38.60 winner to everyone..more times than not he's finishing 3rd or 4th..that's good capping to get that happening more than it should and then structuring tickets around that..if you don't cash those 3rd and 4ths you're missing more opportunities than hitting that occasional one that does win ..plus my casual experience with this is these triples and supers often (not always of course) pay more than they should ..large majority of the time focusing on the top 3-5 horses to fill the 1st ,2nd and 3rd (supers) ..think it might be an edge for as a said ,players are more concerned with ego vs what might actually make them money..when that $38 horse does win ,you don't have it but feel good that you had the right idea and many more times than not you'll have a triple or super that most won't because of ego or/and just not thinking about the strategy in the first place
never applied it officially over time but I do believe in the approach ..speaking about it for the casual player to possibly make some of those hits they may otherwise leave on the table by doing it the traditional, obvious shoot for the win with bombs way
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#252
Originally posted by BOA12
Guru special, a great race for the kids to see what CLASS is.
thanks
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#253
Originally posted by JBEX
didn't mean that b o a ..nothing wrong with a 16-1 return
think one of the big lessons here is if you bury the ego aspect of winning ..having to show your $38.60 winner to everyone..more times than not he's finishing 3rd or 4th..that's good capping to get that happening more than it should and then structuring tickets around that..if you don't cash those 3rd and 4ths you're missing more opportunities than hitting that occasional one that does win ..plus my casual experience with this is these triples and supers often (not always of course) pay more than they should ..large majority of the time focusing on the top 3-5 horses to fill the 1st ,2nd and 3rd (supers) ..think it might be an edge for as a said ,players are more concerned with ego vs what might actually make them money..when that $38 horse does win ,you don't have it but feel good that you had the right idea and many more times than not you'll have a triple or super that most won't because of ego or/and just not thinking about the strategy in the first place
never applied it officially over time but I do believe in the approach ..speaking about it for the casual player to possibly make some of those hits they may otherwise leave on the table by doing it the traditional, obvious shoot for the win with bombs way
.
I understand you're not always going to get the right horses on top when your longie runs underneath but sticking to the top 3 or 4 and if you like 1 more outside of them add or replace with it you'll catch a good % of them ..one winner makes up for a lot of losers
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20437
#254
Originally posted by JBEX
didn't mean that b o a ..nothing wrong with a 16-1 return
think one of the big lessons here is if you bury the ego aspect of winning ..having to show your $38.60 winner to everyone..more times than not he's finishing 3rd or 4th..that's good capping to get that happening more than it should and then structuring tickets around that..if you don't cash those 3rd and 4ths you're missing more opportunities than hitting that occasional one that does win ..plus my casual experience with this is these triples and supers often (not always of course) pay more than they should ..large majority of the time focusing on the top 3-5 horses to fill the 1st ,2nd and 3rd (supers) ..think it might be an edge for as a said ,players are more concerned with ego vs what might actually make them money..when that $38 horse does win ,you don't have it but feel good that you had the right idea and many more times than not you'll have a triple or super that most won't because of ego or/and just not thinking about the strategy in the first place
never applied it officially over time but I do believe in the approach ..speaking about it for the casual player to possibly make some of those hits they may otherwise leave on the table by doing it the traditional, obvious shoot for the win with bombs way
My favorite bets were $20 Quinella Boxe on the turf at Arlington, $1 Tri Key 1/23456 at Hawthorne and $20Win $60PLace anywhere on the One or Two days on the weekend I played live.
Intra-Race only. Morphed into DD & P3s. Mostly avoid P4's and P6's. Inter-Races.
I've morphed back /down to mostly WP, EXBX and inter racing DD and P3's.
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Originally posted by JBEX
I understand you're not always going to get the right horses on top when your longie runs underneath but sticking to the top 3 or 4 and if you like 1 more outside of them add or replace with it you'll catch a good % of them ..one winner makes up for a lot of losers
I use to like to take In a $1 TRI by Boxing my top 3 for WP with 3 others for $24.
Not bad mouthing any wager Guru , only the toughness in the toughest sport going in.
Guru's have survived economic depressions and short losing streaks throughout History.
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#255
Originally posted by BOA12
I use to like to take In a $1 TRI by Boxing my top 3 for WP with 3 others for $24.
Not bad mouthing any wager Guru , only the toughness in the toughest sport going in.
Guru's have survived economic depressions and short losing streaks throughout History.
so 123/123/123456
3rd where your most likely to get the price so makes sense to cover more there
basis of my bet is getting the price horse in 3rd or 4th so I only have him to key him underneath ..going to miss a lot more but will also save bank along the way with fewer combos ..can be frustrating when the key happens and top 2 or 3 spots don't but that's all part of it
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#256
added aqu 3 5 .. post 247
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20437
#257
Originally posted by JBEX
so 123/123/123456
3rd where your most likely to get the price so makes sense to cover more there
basis of my bet is getting the price horse in 3rd or 4th so I only have him to key him underneath ..going to miss a lot more but will also save bank along the way with fewer combos ..can be frustrating when the key happens and top 2 or 3 spots don't but that's all part of it
Don't think or can't remember seeing any Inter Race wagers in your Show or past posting history.
Observation of a wagering philosophy for amusement or educational purposes only.
Guru's use the odds and gambling god's to get even. Right On.
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20437
#258
Originally posted by JBEX
baq
R2 #6 bossy pants (6-1)
@ 1:34
R3 #9 copernicus (6-1)
@ 2:03
R5 #9 king freud (8-1)
@ 3:07
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Investing $12 in a 2-4-6 WPS Parlay starting R2, hopefully with my one and out $$$ from R1.
More than a freelin' Friday.
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#259
Originally posted by BOA12
Don't think or can't remember seeing any Inter Race wagers in your Show or past posting history.
Observation of a wagering philosophy for amusement or educational purposes only.
Guru's use the odds and gambling god's to get even. Right On.
do you mean "123/123/123456" ?
I was just giving an example of what you meant with your triple strategy if that's correct
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#260
Originally posted by JBEX
do you mean "123/123/123456" ?
I was just giving an example of what you meant with your triple strategy if that's correct
if not I never (or rarely) say play pick 3 or 4's
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#261
added aqu 6 7 9 to post 247
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#262
Originally posted by JBEX
baq
R2 #6 bossy pants (6-1)
@ 1:34
R3 #9 copernicus (6-1)
@ 2:03
R5 #9 king freud (8-1)
@ 3:07
.
R6 #4 being betty (5-1)
@ 3:39
R7 #1 yo banana boy (12-1)
@ 4:11
R9 #9 laurana (4-1)
@ 5:13
keep an eye on weather ..latter part of the card might be bad and R6 and 9 are turf races..no play if off
churchill
R2 #9 the toner (7-2)
@1:14
R4 #6 kimchi cat (8-1)
@ 2:13
R5 #8 El matador (6-1)
@ 2:45
R6 #7 boutwell time (7-2)
@3:18
R9 #7 unstable princess (10-1)
@ 4:55
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#263
added cd 5 6
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20437
#264
Originally posted by JBEX
do you mean "123/123/123456" ?
I was just giving an example of what you meant with your triple strategy if that's correct
Yes, an example of my triple strategy 123/123/123456 in today's market $12 at .50 cents.
I meant DD P3 P4,.,.. multiple leg wagers between different races as you indicated above..
Let's go At BAQ.
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#265
added cd 9
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#266
Originally posted by BOA12
Yes, an example of my triple strategy 123/123/123456 in today's market $12 at .50 cents.
I meant DD P3 P4,.,.. multiple leg wagers between different races.
Let's go At BAQ.
ok that's what I thought second time around..after a few days of "1-a -days" have 11 today lol..liked what I saw and wouldn't force it ..bol today
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20437
#267
Originally posted by JBEX
ok that's what I thought second time around..after a few days of "1-a -days" have 11 today lol..liked what I saw and wouldn't force it ..bol today
One and Out $1 Ex $101.75.
Drawn back in.
House $$$ for WPS Parlay.
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#268
Originally posted by BOA12
One and Out $1 Ex $101.75.
Drawn back in.
House $$$ for WPS Parlay.
nice job
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Easy-Rider 66
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-14-12
36895
#269
6/14: Invest 36/Return 37.72
YTD: Thru Breeders Cup 2024: Invest/Return
432/429.51
NOTES: JBEX with his highest volume yet for a specific day . broke about even for today and overall YTD.
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#270
being betty would've made the difference..3rd half length @ 13-1
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Jellymancan
SBR MVP
03-09-20
3697
#271
Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
6/14: Invest 36/Return 37.72
YTD: Thru Breeders Cup 2024: Invest/Return
432/429.51
NOTES: JBEX with his highest volume yet for a specific day . broke about even for today and overall YTD.
Excellent job so far, J.
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#272
Originally posted by Jellymancan
Excellent job so far, J.
thanks jelly ..saw you liked yo banana boy and being betty also..was amazed on the fox broadcast that kinchen didn't like the latter (one of the reasons) because she'd be
far back early ..I was expecting her to run close-up (as she did) like the time she just missed doing this in her 2nd start..understand not showing speed in her last 2 routes was his reason for thinking this
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#273
baq
R3 #9 bertrille (15-1)
@ 1:34
R4 #3 reynolds channel (7-2)
@ 2:05
R7 #6 magical better (15-1)
@ 3:40
delaware
R5 #8 atlanta's acuna (15-1)
@ 2:30
emerald
R4 #8 dynamic secret (8-1) lower
1WP @ 6:16
R5 #1 lil miracle man (6-1)
1WP
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.
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#274
Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
6/14: Invest 36/Return 37.72
YTD: Thru Breeders Cup 2024: Invest/Return
432/429.51
NOTES: JBEX with his highest volume yet for a specific day . broke about even for today and overall YTD.
just for reference bets are either 2 (1WP) or 4 (2WP) so at an avg of about 3/race (w/o counting) # of plays probably around 140
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20437
#275
Originally posted by JBEX
baq
R3 #9 bertrille (15-1)
@ 1:34
R4 #3 reynolds channel (7-2)
@ 2:05
R7 #6 magical better (15-1)
@ 3:40
.
Lest you object, Will invest in a $2Win $3Place $4 for Show WPS Parlay.
Works for me.
Update R3 Off Turf #9 Scratched.
Start with R4 #3.//
3rd X- X-$2.60 on life support +5.20
R7 #6 - $1Win $2Place $2Show//
3rd X-X-$4.20
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#276
Originally posted by BOA12
Lest you object, Will invest in a $2Win $3Place $4 for Show WPS Parlay.
Works for me.
Update R3 Off Turf #9 Scratched.
Start with R4 #3.
bol b o a
thanks for the R3 off the turf update
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20437
#277
Originally posted by JBEX
bol b o a
thanks for the R3 off the turf update
Updates and rebates, they never hurt any cause.
Did you live/grow up closer to AQU Or BEL?
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#278
Originally posted by BOA12
Updates and rebates, they never hurt any cause.
Did you live/grow up closer to AQU Or BEL?
grew up < 10 miles away from aqu and bel..moved away a couple of years before I had any interest in it..folks only mild fans but they were at bel for secretariat
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JBEX
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
23874
#279
added del 5 .. post 273
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20437
#280
Originally posted by JBEX
grew up < 10 miles away from aqu and bel..moved away a couple of years before I had any interest in it..folks only mild fans but they were at bel for secretariat
Onion, the only horse to defeat Secretariat at the graveyard Of champions.