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  • mikemca
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-10-10
    • 10047

    #141
    Ken Ramsey is making a mockery of the game...Thought he would just win 40% at KEE but now he is doing it everywhere ,even in NY.
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    • Madison
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-16-11
      • 6444

      #142
      I hear ya! and agree. Still tough to swallow though. Nice work today although I made no use of it.
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      • wildrides
        SBR Rookie
        • 05-25-13
        • 23

        #143
        Originally posted by mikemca
        Thanks just capped the R7 $1,257 Super cold......
        Wow. Nice job. Wish I had the same confidence in my handicapping as you have in yours. Hopefully one day I'll get there. Congrats.
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        • Timmay
          SBR MVP
          • 09-09-08
          • 1301

          #144
          Hey Mikemca, I was wondering about who you like for Sat and Sunday at Del Mar and Saratoga?

          I don't need something uber conservative. If you were to bet 1k......

          What would you pick and how much on each? I'm not worried if it loses, but would love to hear your insight.
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          • Timmay
            SBR MVP
            • 09-09-08
            • 1301

            #145
            Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
            Paynter went off at 3/5. On those kind of odds he most likely will pay $2.10 to $2.20 to show for every $2.00 risked.
            I see. Thanks
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            • mikemca
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-10-10
              • 10047

              #146
              Originally posted by Timmay
              Hey Mikemca, I was wondering about who you like for Sat and Sunday at Del Mar and Saratoga?

              I don't need something uber conservative. If you were to bet 1k......

              What would you pick and how much on each? I'm not worried if it loses, but would love to hear your insight.
              Well if you're just taking a shot I would bet $1,000 on 1 horse to win.If 1k is a bankroll you want to play with I wouldn't bet more than $10-$20 a play.

              I like a crazy horse today in the Whitney at Saratoga,8-Fast Falcon is 15-1 and the pace could meltdown with all the speed.He likes Saratoga ,is on an upward progression, and like the outside post.

              I don't get Del Mar, none of the horses that are winning make sense to me.Has been totally unpredictable imo but 4-Apollo Ten 12-1 in the 3rd is the horse I'd pick today.
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              • Timmay
                SBR MVP
                • 09-09-08
                • 1301

                #147
                Originally posted by mikemca
                Well if you're just taking a shot I would bet $1,000 on 1 horse to win.If 1k is a bankroll you want to play with I wouldn't bet more than $10-$20 a play.

                I like a crazy horse today in the Whitney at Saratoga,8-Fast Falcon is 15-1 and the pace could meltdown with all the speed.He likes Saratoga ,is on an upward progression, and like the outside post.

                I don't get Del Mar, none of the horses that are winning make sense to me.Has been totally unpredictable imo but 4-Apollo Ten 12-1 in the 3rd is the horse I'd pick today.
                Nice, thanks

                Where can I go to find live odds on the races?
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                • Timmay
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-09-08
                  • 1301

                  #148
                  Originally posted by mikemca
                  Well if you're just taking a shot I would bet $1,000 on 1 horse to win.If 1k is a bankroll you want to play with I wouldn't bet more than $10-$20 a play.

                  I like a crazy horse today in the Whitney at Saratoga,8-Fast Falcon is 15-1 and the pace could meltdown with all the speed.He likes Saratoga ,is on an upward progression, and like the outside post.

                  I don't get Del Mar, none of the horses that are winning make sense to me.Has been totally unpredictable imo but 4-Apollo Ten 12-1 in the 3rd is the horse I'd pick today.
                  Do you usually take the horses to win? Or to show? I'm guessing to win.....

                  I've been just betting more than I normally would for rolloffs, so I've been putting to show, but not sure if I should just bet them straight.

                  Also... You like anything else on the Del Mar track today?
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                  • mikemca
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-10-10
                    • 10047

                    #149
                    Meh ....not my day
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                    • mikemca
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-10-10
                      • 10047

                      #150
                      Originally posted by Timmay
                      Do you usually take the horses to win? Or to show? I'm guessing to win.....

                      I've been just betting more than I normally would for rolloffs, so I've been putting to show, but not sure if I should just bet them straight.

                      Also... You like anything else on the Del Mar track today?

                      I usually bet win,exacta, or both...Nah done for today and going off the grid until Wednesday.
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                      • Timmay
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-09-08
                        • 1301

                        #151
                        Originally posted by mikemca
                        I usually bet win,exacta, or both...Nah done for today and going off the grid until Wednesday.

                        For sure I feel you. It's good to take a break. Good talking man.
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                        • mikemca
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-10-10
                          • 10047

                          #152
                          Originally posted by Timmay


                          For sure I feel you. It's good to take a break. Good talking man.
                          Wasn't a planned break...Went camping with family for a few days


                          Don't have time to do thorough write up but this is what I got





                          Wednesday


                          Saratoga

                          Race 1
                          If there is a time to play against Pletcher firsters ,it is on the turf.He still wins but not nearly enough to justify the low prices his horses go off at most of the time based mostly on his first time stats acquired by his dominant dirt 2 year olds.6-Little Boss 6-1 is the most interesting at the price to me , his sire Street Boss is off to a great start through two crops with 1st time starters.

                          6-Litttle Boss
                          3-More Than Classic
                          7-War Hawk

                          Race 2
                          Race might not offer much value but looks like a good battle between the 3 ML favorites.4-Marriedtothemusic looks to have a pretty big edge in early speed which the fave 1-Bond Vigilante may have a tough time keeping up with.That seems to set the table for 3rd choice 3-Longfor The City 3-1 who will sit a few lengths back and pounce.Also looks ready for a big effort 3rd from layoff which C Clement excels at.

                          3-Longfor The City
                          4-Marriedtothemusic
                          1-Bond Vigilante

                          Race 3
                          9-Sarah's Wild Girl 10-1
                          2-Light Weight 12-1
                          Add a logical horse for 3 horse ex

                          Race 4
                          1-Mighty Ian 4-1
                          7-Drum Roll 6-1
                          Either Bemata or Vee's Accolade

                          Race 5
                          Don't think there is any way 3-Orino goes off at 12-1, maybe half that, but if he does is a nice play.West Hills Giant is too good for these NY breds and is borderline open company stakes caliber.6-Sun Storm 20-1 blew up the tote in his only start and could do it again if he likes turf.Last 4-Madam I'm Adam 8-1 looks ripe for another improvement routing for the first time.

                          2-West Hills Giant
                          3-Orino(Depending on price)
                          4-Madam I'm Adam
                          6-Sun Storm

                          Race 6
                          Good race to go against the 2 favorites
                          8-Pan Dulce 5-1
                          9-Hidden Music 15-1

                          Race 7
                          Faves look legit here in 1-Roses For Romney and 9-Temper In Command.2-Caribean Beat's 12-1 ml is too high imo.Her last race is just short of the best in here and it picked up right where she left off in 2012 which is a good sign.

                          9-Temper In Command
                          2-Caribean Beat
                          1-Roses For Romney

                          Race 8
                          Could go a number of ways on top but 5-Terminus 12-1 is the overlay for underneath.

                          5-Terminus

                          Race 9
                          Don't know if I will get the 6-1 on 6-Palace but would take 3-1 at the least.

                          6-Palace

                          Race 10
                          3-Code Z 8-1 wins this with any of his three 2012 efforts.Bombs worth looking at underneath are the 0 for 20 5-Proffesor Chaos 12-1 who will probably be much higher and 6-Sunnyinseabrook 15-1.I'm sure the Maker/Ramsey horse is better than it looks on paper but don't know how you take a short price just guessing he improves.

                          3-Code Z
                          5-Proffesor Chaos
                          6-Sunnyinseabrook
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                          • wildrides
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 05-25-13
                            • 23

                            #153
                            Thanks for taking the time to post. Good luck. I'll be following along.
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                            • Easy-Rider 66
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 02-14-12
                              • 36100

                              #154
                              Good call on the #3 race 5 from Toga. Went off at 12/1 and wired the field but they took the 3 down. The #2 wins.
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                              • mikemca
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-10-10
                                • 10047

                                #155
                                Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                Good call on the #3 race 5 from Toga. Went off at 12/1 and wired the field but they took the 3 down. The #2 wins.

                                Yeah that sucked...Race 4 was generous though
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                                • wildrides
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 05-25-13
                                  • 23

                                  #156
                                  You did a nice job with race 6 as well. very impressive day.
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                                  • mikemca
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-10-10
                                    • 10047

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by wildrides
                                    You did a nice job with race 6 as well. very impressive day.
                                    Thx...Races 4,5,6, and 8 went well and race 7 Carribean Beat/Roses For Romney were 2/3rds of the Tri just over thought the winner.She had the top last race figure in the field but hate to play low percentage barns off a win.
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                                    • mikemca
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-10-10
                                      • 10047

                                      #158
                                      Professor Chaos breaks maiden in 21st start but got surprisingly got bet.Couldn't hook him up with anyone in the place spot though
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                                      • harthebar
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-09-11
                                        • 15709

                                        #159
                                        Mike that 5 we liked terminus killed me ....I hit the pick 4 ..I keyed console in the 9th. But I used your 5 in the last......I put the 3 in terminus race as a back up ...it would of paid ....8000 instead of 1800 if terminus wins ...which he should of .considering .all the bumping he had to deal with ....anyway ..thanks.
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                                        • mikemca
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-10-10
                                          • 10047

                                          #160
                                          Was wondering what Professor Chaos looked like in the double/Pick 3/Pick 4 pools because I guess it wasn't the good find I thought it was.Got hammered in all the vertical pools.
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                                          • harthebar
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-09-11
                                            • 15709

                                            #161
                                            he did not get bet that much in the pick 4 as you can see by the price...it payed great...he was 12-1 in the book...as you know
                                            Originally posted by mikemca
                                            Was wondering what Professor Chaos looked like in the double/Pick 3/Pick 4 pools because I guess it wasn't the good find I thought it was.Got hammered in all the vertical pools.
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                                            • JJJ
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-03-11
                                              • 2610

                                              #162
                                              anything sticks out to you at Saratoga mike?
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                                              • mikemca
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-10-10
                                                • 10047

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by JJJ
                                                anything sticks out to you at Saratoga mike?
                                                Not really.I thought Ascending Fever was very interesting in the finale at 20-1 but scratched.Other than that didn't have too many out of the box horses.


                                                Thursday

                                                Saratoga

                                                Don't know what to make of race 1

                                                Race 2
                                                Will watch the board for key horse as no concrete opinion but price horses are 3-Chrysolite 8-1 and 8-Gentle Cat 15-1(SCRATCHED).

                                                Race 3
                                                Don't see many ways to go here with the 3 horses that are likely to take money 1,2,4 Pletcher,Lopresti,Romans hard to beat on their own.Maybe 3-Speightscity 8-1 is playable at the lowest class level of career.

                                                Race 4
                                                Probably a popular opinion but think it's between 6-Stick To Your Guns and and 2-Rain Forest.

                                                Race 5
                                                No inside info here to go against likely faves

                                                Race 6
                                                This is where the card gets good from here out but hard to choose from about 5 or 6 playable horses at 5 or 6 to 1.Will have to see how they bet it but like 2-Kanturk Kid 6-1 and he might get overlooked for K O'Connell because she isn't really entered in NY often.This one rallied strong into a slow pace last out despite breaking through the gate pre race.Next would be 7-More Hundred Acre 5-1 who did the same(rally into slow pace) but goes for Pletcher/Castellano so will probably take money.5-Prado Cat is an easy horse to like making his first start since a G2 in May.He is the best key horse imo because of his style is most likely of these to hit the board.Yo Blue has the best figures but these are way better horses than he earned .It is Maker 1st off the claim though.

                                                Race 7
                                                Might be more of a hunch but liking 3-Dear Elizabeth 15-1.Has races that are competitive if coming back in same form as when she left in Nov 2012.Baker is outstanding with this kind of lay off so it's not a stretch.

                                                Race 8
                                                6-Golden Galaxy 5-1 is probably the best option but 10-Newbie 10-1 is interesting cutting back even if she hasn't won in a long time.

                                                Race 9
                                                3-Palace Dreams and 2-Adriatic Dream look like the main contenders but think 6-Fantastic Eyes 12-1 and 4-Maxana 30-1 are worth a look at least underneath.

                                                Race 10
                                                Don't like the favorites so will go 4 or 5 deep.Think the most logical are 5-Yampa River 6-1 and 7-Alwaysinmycircle 8-1 but both figure to be up close if not on the pace.The most interesting in the race imo is 10-Ascended Fever 20-1(SCRATCHED) who finally stretches out.The others I'm still debating are 3-Scealeile 8-1 and 4-Bonatini 8-1.
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                                                • mikemca
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-10-10
                                                  • 10047

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by mikemca
                                                  Not really.I thought Ascending Fever was very interesting in the finale at 20-1 but scratched.

                                                  Looks like Ascended Fever was scratched to run tomorrow in the 1st at Sar.Its a 5.5 turf sprint so not stretching out but looks good at 12-1.
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                                                  • TonyP
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-20-09
                                                    • 8478

                                                    #165
                                                    Del Mar race 1 #2 gets CNak on grass at a price
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                                                    • Slimpickens
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-28-12
                                                      • 2030

                                                      #166
                                                      Good luck today Mike!! If Dear Elizabeth wins the 7th I will .
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                                                      • mikemca
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-10-10
                                                        • 10047

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by Slimpickens
                                                        Good luck today Mike!! If Dear Elizabeth wins the 7th I will .
                                                        Thx...skipped the first half of the card .Katurk Kid won at 5-1 to start day and was claimed by D Jacobson.Dear Elizabeth ran very good all things considered.Didn't want to load so it took like 7-8 people to get her in the gate.Then had a rough first 1/16 of a mile and finished up OK to get 3rd and galloped out in front.Not the kind of horse for stable though.Think she was pretty cranked up to win and most likely goes backward next out.
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                                                        • mikemca
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-10-10
                                                          • 10047

                                                          #168
                                                          Tomorrows card is tough...Races 4,5,6,7 all 2 year old maiden races with 75/80% firsters.
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                                                          • Madison
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-16-11
                                                            • 6444

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by Slimpickens
                                                            Good luck today Mike!! If Dear Elizabeth wins the 7th I will .
                                                            Mike, I limped along. A playback off the close and fail late in 1st back off layoff?
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                                                            • Madison
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-16-11
                                                              • 6444

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by Madison
                                                              Mike, I limped along. A playback off the close and fail late in 1st back off layoff?
                                                              Just saw your comment. Thx!!
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                                                              • harthebar
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-09-11
                                                                • 15709

                                                                #171
                                                                Saratoga
                                                                Balance the Books is entered to run on August 9, 2013, at SARATOGA race 8
                                                                Rover is entered on August 9, 2013 at SARATOGA. race 10
                                                                Zip Zip Away is entered on August 9, 2013 at EVANGELINE DOWNS. RACE 6
                                                                Guyana Star (AL) is entered on August 9, 2013 at SARATOGA RACE 1 WAS STRATCHED YESTERDAY
                                                                THE 1 ENTRY IS GOING TO BE TOUGH IN RACES 2 AND 3 .....I WOULD REFER TO MIKES PICKS ....HE WILL HAVE A BETTER LOOK AT IT THAN ME...
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                                                                • mikemca
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-10-10
                                                                  • 10047

                                                                  #172
                                                                  I liked Balance The Books a lot but all races are on dirt now so might just skip today
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                                                                  • mikemca
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-10-10
                                                                    • 10047

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Friday

                                                                    Saratoga

                                                                    Race 1
                                                                    Like Ascended Fever 12-1 here as well as the race she was entered in yesterday but now will have to wait again with races moved to the main track.10-Talent N Passion is a cinch at a very short price.Maybe a cold exacta with 2-Acrobatic Tactic 20-1 but think that one will get bet some.

                                                                    Race 2
                                                                    Today might be a chalky one with the 1/1A entry and 7-Start Jumping hard to beat and in all likelihood cap a very short 10/1,7 double.2-Like A Boss 12-1 is the value.

                                                                    Race 3
                                                                    More favorites

                                                                    Race 4
                                                                    Maybe the other Contessa here 7-Fancy Boss 6-1 will have some value.Abel Lezcano and Contessa are 4 for 9 ITM in maiden races.

                                                                    Race 5
                                                                    Probably a lot of scratches but MTO 11-Sky Crew 5-1 looks good .

                                                                    Race 6
                                                                    Going with a hunch since 15-1 makes it worth it on 6-Honor Bound.Englehart is good with 2 year olds and playing field may be a little more even with state breds.

                                                                    Race 7
                                                                    Hard to have an opinion without seeing who scratches

                                                                    Race 8
                                                                    6-Battier is the only dirt horse in the race.If he loses he should go back to rookie ball.

                                                                    Race 9
                                                                    8-Flashy American is in good form and was 5th of 6 behind a very slow pace last out.1-Sure Route 20-1 ran the best race of her 25 race career a few back in her only wet track start.

                                                                    Race 10
                                                                    Have to see what this race looks like after scratches but 2-Matt And Jesse's ML of 15-1 is not going to hold with the move to main track.Will probably be the favorite and the only one with comparable dirt form is 6-Verne 8-1.We''l see but they look like the 2 main players.
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                                                                    • Madison
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-16-11
                                                                      • 6444

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Thanks Mike. Lousy here in the NE so looking for anything to brighten this dismal day.
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                                                                      • Timmay
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 09-09-08
                                                                        • 1301

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Hey Mikemca, we didn't do to good last week, but all good.
                                                                        How is the card looking for this weekend?

                                                                        I'm wagering another 1k and not worried about losing it except that I want to make a profit of course. What would you play?

                                                                        Thanks
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