ElCapitan's 2011-2012 NHL Thread

[ElCapitan]

It's a three game chase thus A,B,C. If we lose the first (A) we bet enough on the 2nd (B) to recover our A loss +1 unit. If B loses we bet enough to recover A+B+1 unit.

[TomJSports]

It's a three game chase thus A,B,C. If we lose the first (A) we bet enough on the 2nd (B) to recover our A loss +1 unit. If B loses we bet enough to recover A+B+1 unit.

Thanks, that's what I had assumed, but I just wanted confirmation.

[DANO74]

Are these picks from JM NHL v1 or are they ElCap's own version?

[MistaKev]

What is the record last year for ML and PL? What about the A bet, B bet, and C bet for both ML and PL + the C bet losses.

[MistaKev]

I mean what is the record for last year C bet losses.

[mantorras77]

I mean what is the record for last year C bet losses.

Go back and read page 2 or 3 of this thread, it's somewhere there.

[MistaKev]

Quote:
2009-2010 Total Record:
ML: 173(A)-89(B)-39(C) (+45.71)
PL: 173(A)-55(B)-16(C) (+20.09)

Version 1:
ML: 80(A)-40(B)-16(C) (+24.59)
PL: 80(A)-24(B)-5(C) (+19.75)

Version 2:
ML: 93(A)-49(B)-23(C) (+21.12)
PL: 93(A)-31(B)-11(C) (+0.34)
Quote:
2010-2011 Total Record:
ML: 164(A)-84(B)-50(C) (+17.76)
PL: 164(A)-49(B)-18(C) (-71.02)

Version 1:
ML: 66(A)-31(B)-20(C) (+29.04)
PL: 66(A)-17(B)-7(C) (+47.26)

Version 2:
ML: 98(A)-53(B)-30(C) (-11.28)
PL: 98(A)-32(B)-11(C) (-118.28)

QUESTION : IS THIS INCLUDING PLAYING THE UNDERDOGS AS ML AND PL??????

[MistaKev]

version1 saw a total of 9 c losses last year, 8 on the ml and 1 on the pl.

can anyone confirm this thanks!

[MistaKev]

MANTORRAS77, Are the 8 losses for ML favorites or underdogs or combined?

[cubfan2121]

MANTORRAS77, Are the 8 losses for ML favorites or underdogs or combined?

8 losses total

[doublej95]

Canes

[oklahoma]

nothin like winning straight up on the dog PL

[bauerranch]

Luv to get first one out of the way!

[Thirsty P]

Sweet way to begin

[MistaKev]

MANTORRAS77, Are the 8 losses for ML favorites or underdogs or combined?

You can play Underdog ML also, did you count underdog ML or just underdog PL?

[mantorras77]

You can play Underdog ML also, did you count underdog ML or just underdog PL?

I think it's everything combined on V1

[one ball bill]

great start to the weekend now lets get JM's nfl bets sorted

[knugen]

Nice start, when is the next bet?

[windwind]

Nice start, when is the next bet?

had the same question

[JW Cash]

Nice Win....................

[bink]

had the same question

For V1 I believe it's the 21st on the Sharks.

[ElCapitan]

10/14 Results

Nice win today and a great way to start off the season!

V1 Carolina Hurricanes (A) ML +165 (1 to win 1.65) *WIN*
V1 Carolina Hurricanes (A) PL -175 (1.75 to win 1) *WIN*

Record:
V1 ML: 1(A)-0(B)-0(C) (+1.65)
V1 PL: 1(A)-0(B)-0(C) (+1.0)

V2 ML: 0(A)-0(B)-0(C) (+0)
V2 PL: 0(A)-0(B)-0(C) (+0)

[ElCapitan]

10/15 Plays

V2 Play - tracking only

V2 Buffalo Sabres ML (A) +100 (1 to win 1)
V2 Buffalo Sabres PL (A) -300 (3 to win 1)

[ElCapitan]

The next V1 plays are as follows:

10/21 - San Jose Sharks
10/22 - New Jersey Devils
10/22 - St. Louis Blues

[imotiv8]

Nice to see ya again Cap!

[ElCapitan]

10/15 Results

V2 Play - tracking only

V2 Buffalo Sabres ML (A) +100 (1 to win 1) *WIN*
V2 Buffalo Sabres PL (A) -300 (3 to win 1) *WIN*

Record:
V1 ML: 1(A)-0(B)-0(C) (+1.65)
V1 PL: 1(A)-0(B)-0(C) (+1.0)

V2 ML: 1(A)-0(B)-0(C) (+1.0)
V2 PL: 1(A)-0(B)-0(C) (+1.0)

[mjp123]

I love hockey, but am new to wagering on it. PL is puck line, so do you always take it for - or + 1 1/2? I guess I don't understand how to make that play. I use 5 dimes. Can someone explain the PL wager? Thanks in advance.

[bink]

I love hockey, but am new to wagering on it. I admit, I'm embarrassed to ask, but what does PL mean? Thanks in advance.

Puck Line. It's the same as the Run Line in baseball. So you can take +1.5 on the dog (if they lose by 1 or win outright, you win) or -1.5 on the favourite (they have to win by 2 or more for you to win). Never bet the PL on a favourite, i.e. never bet -1.5 on a team. Only bet the PL if it's a dog, otherwise just bet the ML.

[jcygts6]

Pl is so expensive

[smcc716]

Pl is so expensive

I have been using the +0.5 line in regulation. This saves a lot of juice, and many times when teams are down by one goal they pull the goalie and end up losing by 2 anyways. As long as the game ends in regulation with a draw, you win the bet. Of course there will be times when a team only loses by one goal in regulation, and you would lose the bet. I figure by not having to pay all of that juice, it would save you in the long run. Especially if you are running labby lines like the guys have listed. Don't know if anyone else has thought of this, but I thought I would just throw it out there.

[MistaKev]

I think it's everything combined on V1

can someone confirm?

[ElCapitan]

10/17 Plays V2

V2 Play - tracking only

V2 Nashville Predators ML (A) -125 (1.25 to win 1)
V2 Nashville Predators PL (A) (fav, play ML) (1.25 to win 1)


Tonight's matchup brings us to a question that everyone usually has. In this case our team is the favorite so there is no +1.5 puck line. In these situations, we would take them on the ML only. But because I track ML and PL results, I would, in effect, be making two separate wagers on the same thing. I do this because let's say they lose tonight. When they go to play at Vancouver on the 20th, they will probably be the underdog meaning there will be a +1.5 line and a ML which will separate back out into two different bet types.

This is a V2 play so we are not actually betting it but I wanted to explain that for when it presents itself in a V1 play.

[ElCapitan]

There have been some questions regarding last year's records. I thought I explained it in the first post but here is a link to some detailed numbers. Scroll down to the bottom for the figures. These should answer anything you want to know.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgGIgBnkVenPdDdBdmJNQXZodlVoREZlRHBoYUE1Mnc&authkey=CNDk54AC&hl=en_US&authkey=CNDk54AC

[jphil]

Nice! as usual el-cap. I'd sh't if the stats for those 2 versions reversed themselves this season.

[ElCapitan]

10/17 Results

V2 Play - tracking only

V2 Nashville Predators ML (A) -125 (1.25 to win 1) *LOSS*
V2 Nashville Predators PL (A) (fav, play ML) (1.25 to win 1) *LOSS*

Record:
V1 ML: 1(A)-0(B)-0(C) (+1.65)
V1 PL: 1(A)-0(B)-0(C) (+1.0)

V2 ML: 2(A)-0(B)-0(C) (-0.25)
V2 PL: 2(A)-0(B)-0(C) (-0.25)