UFC 148: Silva vs. Sonnen II

**Vaughany** · 07-07-12, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the guy who pushes at the weigh ins always lose the fight?
Wanderlei vs Rampage I can remember and I know there are others.

Didnt Diego Sanchez shove Koscheck then lose?!

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-07-12, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

for anyone who has played anderson ITD (currently -195), or contemplating that play, wouldn't you rather play Fight won't start round 5 at -168?

i'm thinking about one of these two plays. i'm obviously leaning towards anderson getting a finish, but i just cant imagine it happens in round 5 again. so i'm thinking the under 4.0 would be the better play since you get extra coverage in case chael pulls off an arm triangle or lands a hail mary.

essentially im asking anyone who likes anderson ITD whether they think there is any chance it happens in round 5?

Logically, not really. Unless Anderson is behind like last time. Or if he decides to toy with him on some Damien Maia shit.

**Vaughany** · 07-07-12, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

for anyone who has played anderson ITD (currently -195), or contemplating that play, wouldn't you rather play Fight won't start round 5 at -168?

i'm thinking about one of these two plays. i'm obviously leaning towards anderson getting a finish, but i just cant imagine it happens in round 5 again. so i'm thinking the under 4.0 would be the better play since you get extra coverage in case chael pulls off an arm triangle or lands a hail mary.

essentially im asking anyone who likes anderson ITD whether they think there is any chance it happens in round 5?

makes sense to me..I think Anderson finishes before 5 if he does finish

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-07-12, 12:14 PM

Beyonce an nicki Minaj come to mind as hair dyers

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-07-12, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Beyonce an nicki Minaj come to mind as hair dyers

**PunisherIND** · 07-07-12, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Logically, not really. Unless Anderson is behind like last time. Or if he decides to toy with him on some Damien Maia shit.

and given all the talk about breaking bones and teeth, i dont think andy is playing around this time.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-07-12, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

and given all the talk about breaking bones and teeth, i dont think andy is playing around this time.

Yeah, I'm pretty confident in Anderson here. I think he either "dominates" or loses the fight. If he is "dominting" I cant see how it goes past the third in any feasible scenario (hidden injury or eye poke). I think second round finish is the most likely outcome. Even if Anderson doesn't "toy" with him, he still focks round at the beginning of his fights until his nuts drop.

**PunisherIND** · 07-07-12, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Yeah, I'm pretty confident in Anderson here. I think he either "dominates" or loses the fight. If he is "dominting" I cant see how it goes past the third in any feasible scenario (hidden injury or eye poke). I think second round finish is the most likely outcome. Even if Anderson doesn't "toy" with him, he still focks round at the beginning of his fights until his nuts drop.

lmao. im with you defacto. either way, im amped up for this fight. should be good.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-07-12, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

lmao. im with you defacto. either way, im amped up for this fight. should be good.

Oh im fockin AMPED. I'm listening to 90's gangster rap while shadowboxing in the mirror. It culminates with me "mad dogging" my reflection then spitting at it.

**NunyaBidness** · 07-07-12, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Chael destroyed that water bottle at weigh-ins... and Buffer... kinda looks like he's disturbingly into it.

El
Oh
El

**DublinMeUp** · 07-07-12, 01:15 PM

Sonnen line seems to be getting smashed

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-07-12, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by DublinMeUp

Sonnen line seems to be getting smashed

And this is supposed to be the "role model" for black youth?

Jon Jones = this guy

**DublinMeUp** · 07-07-12, 01:35 PM

eh?

**NunyaBidness** · 07-07-12, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

And this is supposed to be the "role model" for black youth?

I agree, the little girl should not be drinking beer.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-07-12, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I agree, the little girl should not be drinking beer.

So did you win the wsop?

**Educ8d Degener8** · 07-07-12, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Oh im fockin AMPED. I'm listening to 90's gangster rap while shadowboxing in the mirror. It culminates with me "mad dogging" my reflection then spitting at it.

**NunyaBidness** · 07-07-12, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

So did you win the wsop?

Nope, only made one final table. How much money did you make in the last 3 weeks?

**PunisherIND** · 07-07-12, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

hell yea. all time fockin classic, along with illmatic and ready to die.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-07-12, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Nope, only made one final table. How much money did you make in the last 3 weeks?

I cashed my gubbment check on the first.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-07-12, 02:30 PM

**Rubber Guard** · 07-07-12, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

In the world of "entertainment" there are tens of THOUSANDS of black men and the amount that dye their hair blonde is almost non existent. Even in "performance arts" where doing something like that would be more the norm. The singer Sisqo is the only one I could think of.

The world of sports outside of the UFC is almost entirely black. Take the NBA for example, it is predominately black and literally no players dye their hair blond. The only one out of it's long history is Denis Rodman to my recollection, and he certainly wasn't considered "normal".

But yet this seems to be a trend amongst black athletes in the UFC?

btw, I don't know if Rampage portrays certain negative stereotypes of black people on purpose, or if is just an act. But either way he plays the part perfectly and the UFC milks it for all it's worth.

I think people dye their hair to stand out and make people recognize they easier.

Leban dyed his hair before.

Hardy does.

Hermes Franca always did.

The green haired TUF 135er now 125er...forget his name.

I doubt Rampage portrays anything. He is like taht all the time. He cracks jokes left and right and is always in character. Hence why he likes acting.

Rashad doesn't portray much. He is a black guy and acts black.

Perhaps I'm just missing the point.

**Rubber Guard** · 07-07-12, 02:56 PM

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-07-12, 03:02 PM

**Educ8d Degener8** · 07-07-12, 03:43 PM

1.50u Silva Sonnen won't start round 5 -154
1.50u Silva Sonnen won't start round 4 -106
1.50u Mendes ITD -155

0.50u Silva ITD -175 / Guillard ITD -170
0.13u Cote / Mendes / Tibau / Guillard / Fukuda / Izquierdo / Silva by KO or TKO
0.13u Alessio / Sonnen Silva wont start rd 5 / Ortiz Griffin distance / Mendes ITD / Camoes Guillard not distance

I'm in the camp that believes Silva finishes the fight early... and viciously. If he pulls some crazy Maia-esque antics, or if Sonnen rides to a top control decision I'm fuct. Given Sonnen's recent offensive sub training, if he does happen to repeat the first fight's performance and gain repeated top control, I wouldn't rule out a sub - as he had several opportunities in the first fight iirc, but did not make attempts. Hence, leaning to fight not decision weighted plays, as opposed to just banging out a heavy Silva ITD play.

GL everyone

**The HOFF** · 07-07-12, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Oh im fockin AMPED. I'm listening to 90's gangster rap while shadowboxing in the mirror. It culminates with me "mad dogging" my reflection then spitting at it.

Possible post of the year.

**Imsmarterthanu** · 07-07-12, 04:40 PM

**bjpenn85** · 07-07-12, 04:54 PM

haha agreed

**PunisherIND** · 07-07-12, 05:29 PM

roller at -150, tebow at -155 on reduced juice.

**Kaladarus** · 07-07-12, 05:33 PM

Already played Alessio at a better number, but good price for those looking at Roller. Liking Tibau at -155 now definitely worth the bet. Also Yum Yum is at -135 adding more. Really like him at -135.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 07-07-12, 05:38 PM

Ticket#:70541622
Jul 07 11:59 PM

INTERNET / -1

Jun 02 11:18 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET
[24101] C SONNEN +210
(C SONNEN vrs A SILVA)

50 / 105

Ticket#:71584758
Jul 07 08:05 PM

INTERNET / -1

Jul 04 09:56 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET
[24141] J ALESSIO +180
(J ALESSIO vrs S ROLLER)

75 / 135

Ticket#:71609749
Jul 07 09:35 PM

INTERNET / -1

Jul 05 09:30 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET
[24130] G TIBAU -200
(K NURMAGOMEDOV vrs G TIBAU)

100 / 50

Ticket#:71636362
Jul 07 09:00 PM

INTERNET / -1

Jul 06 09:10 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET
[24133] F CAMOES +260
(F CAMOES vrs M GUILLARD)

25 / 65

Ticket#:71662645
Jul 07 08:35 PM

INTERNET / -1

Jul 07 06:23 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET
[24139] TOTAL o2½-160
(FUKUDA/PHILIPPOU TOT RDS vrs FUKUDA/PHILIPPOU TOT RDS)

80 / 50

Ticket#:71663315
Jul 07 09:00 PM

INTERNET / -1

Jul 07 06:36 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET
[24135] TOTAL o2½+240
(CAMOES/GUILLARD TOT RDS vrs CAMOES/GUILLARD TOT RDS)

25 / 60

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played sonnen way too early about a month ago, thought he would have got more action than silva but was wrong.

Wanted to put more on tibau yet some people are scaring me with the khabib picks, I really think in retrospect tibau is gonna look like a great bet but I don't have the funds to risk it as of right now, if my fukuda/cp over comes through I'll probably double up on tibau and hopefully at a cheaper price.

Gonna prob make a play on easton as well if I"m +money going into that bout.

Also might make sprinkles on these dog odd overs if I'm up, le / cote +180 and mendes / cody +190 over I think have some value, most people would say the complete opposite but I have my reasons for these possibly going the distance, same with my very risky (and probably stupid) guillard / camoes over.
GL to everyone tonight, gonna be a fun card, hope chael shocks the world!!!

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-07-12, 05:48 PM

Tebow does roll bjj

**Big Raph** · 07-07-12, 06:44 PM

What's up, guys? I'm a long time lurker, first time poster.

I'm about to lay out some bets, and am wondering what I'm missing here. Why aren't more people going big on something like fight doesn't make it out of fourth rd and hedging with Sonnen by decision. Only way that loses is if Silva wins by decision, which seems unlikely. Or am I missing something?

**Vaughany** · 07-07-12, 06:51 PM

29-28 at least for Tractor

**Vitooch** · 07-07-12, 06:56 PM

Didn't expect his TDD to be that bad.

**NunyaBidness** · 07-07-12, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Big Raph

What's up, guys? I'm a long time lurker, first time poster.

I'm about to lay out some bets, and am wondering what I'm missing here. Why aren't more people going big on something like fight doesn't make it out of fourth rd and hedging with Sonnen by decision. Only way that loses is if Silva wins by decision, which seems unlikely. Or am I missing something?

Yes, you're missing the 5th round. You're also missing another Anderson showboat decision.