Mousasi -600

**Vaughany** · 12-14-11, 11:40 AM

ha wowza, if I had Bodog I'd be maxing out on OSP! Easy arb opportunity

**sideloaded** · 12-14-11, 11:44 AM

they be smoking crack over at bodog

**Educ8d Degener8** · 12-14-11, 11:45 AM

goddamit, would love to get that price on OSP... and I can't stand OSP and his stupid nickname, and am a huge Mousasi fan... but +400. all day. unfortunately, no bodoggy for me

**poopoo333** · 12-14-11, 11:46 AM

I was expecting +140 for OSP..funded my bodog account just to put 5u on OSP +400

**Vaughany** · 12-14-11, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by poopoo333

I was expecting +140 for OSP..funded my bodog account just to put 5u on OSP +400

Mousasi will be -250 to -300 range on bookmaker Id guess

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-14-11, 12:08 PM

Damn, I closed my Bodog account.
Oddessa what were you thinking?

Is OSP injured?

**sideloaded** · 12-14-11, 12:11 PM

I'm guessing he has some kind of inside info

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-14-11, 12:12 PM

Anyone playing Evangelista?

**v1y** · 12-14-11, 12:43 PM

mousasi -600 is ridiculously off.

**sideloaded** · 12-14-11, 12:46 PM

got to love joey odessa he's been fukking up mma odds for years

**sirchadwick1** · 12-14-11, 12:47 PM

Now down to -400. Bodog is no more... it's now Bovada.lv.

**NunyaBidness** · 12-14-11, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

got to love joey odessa he's been fukking up mma odds for years

this

**proposition joe** · 12-14-11, 01:06 PM

If Bookmaker has OSP at anything above plus 2 then ill be all over that...

**proposition joe** · 12-14-11, 01:31 PM

Also, I would imagine Fight to go Distance would be the best value play here. I'm not too familiar with prop bets vso I don't know if they even offer that type of bet for non UFc events though

**PunisherIND** · 12-14-11, 02:40 PM

dammit, took a nap and missed the opener. i put 2U on the +300. oh well. hopefully i can hedge with mousasi inside the distance. 5dimes does (or did) offer sf props. i've seen bellator props on bodog -- i mean bovado lol -- so they may offer sf props as well.

**sideloaded** · 12-14-11, 02:48 PM

great avatar punisher

**gabe** · 12-14-11, 03:04 PM

How can you guys throw away money by betting against Gegard?

**Vaughany** · 12-14-11, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by gabe

How can you guys throw away money by betting against Gegard?

Are u betting on him at -500 then?

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-14-11, 03:13 PM

Does Mousasi have the Worst Takedown defense? Nick Diaz and Condit come to mind but nothing as bad as Mousasi

**Vaughany** · 12-14-11, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Does Mousasi have the Worst Takedown defense? Nick Diaz and Condit come to mind but nothing as bad as Mousasi

Yeah but with these guys a lot of it is to do with them being so comfortable off their backs that they don't even put up much of an effort to stop the take-down.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 12-14-11, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by gabe

How can you guys throw away money by betting against Gegard?

It's about value Gabe.

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-14-11, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yeah but with these guys a lot of it is to do with them being so comfortable off their backs that they don't even put up much of an effort to stop the take-down.

good point
Anderson as well

**gabe** · 12-14-11, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Are u betting on him at -500 then?

I won't bet -500 on anybody besides Jon Jones and Anderson Silva. Only time I have was when I was chasing and went big on Koscheck over Hughes.

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

It's about value Gabe.

Yeah... I guess a small play would be worth the risk. I did that with Korean Zombie and it paid off. But I really don't see Gegard losing.

If he drops to -350, I'll make a decent play on him.

**proposition joe** · 12-14-11, 06:29 PM

Mousasi is vastly overrated. His win over Kyotaro showed that he has very solid strikes but I don't think he is powerful or aggressive enough to consistently overcompensate for his lack of takedown defense. OSP is a midtier guy but Mousasi is the fade here, in my opinion.

**gabe** · 12-14-11, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by proposition joe

Mousasi is vastly overrated. His win over Kyotaro showed that he has very solid strikes but I don't think he is powerful or aggressive enough to consistently overcompensate for his lack of takedown defense. OSP is a midtier guy but Mousasi is the fade here, in my opinion.

Like Vaughany said, guys who feel comfortable off their backs don't care for being taken down. Remember, Bas Rutten won the Championship due to the strikes he was landing off his back. Mousasi is a fighter who does a lot of damage off his back; it's a position he feels very comfortable being in.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 12-14-11, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Like Vaughany said, guys who feel comfortable off their backs don't care for being taken down. Remember, Bas Rutten won the Championship due to the strikes he was landing off his back. Mousasi is a fighter who does a lot of damage off his back; it's a position he feels very comfortable being in.

I don't argue with any of what you say... but unfortunately, the unified rules favor the fighter in top position -- remember Mousasi vs Queen Mo? Who won the fight? And who "won" the fight?

Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for Gegard here, but his lackadaisical approach to TDD makes it hard for me to lay tons of juice on him given that he'll likely be on his back at some point. Yes, he could sub OSP from that position; or potentially just put OSP to sleep via his stand-up such that he doesn't end up on his back.... but at crazy juice.... no thanks.

All likely a moot point for me as the line is still moving with a fury it seems.

**proposition joe** · 12-14-11, 07:01 PM

Mousasi isn't THAT good off his back. He might can catch a triangle on OSP but his guard game is far from the level it would have to be for him to have any kind of success against top level grapplers in the division. Armbarring Mark Hunt isn't all that big of an accomplishment and his strikes from the bottom only go so far with the judges.

**sideloaded** · 12-14-11, 07:17 PM

Mousasi in america = crap
Mousasi in japan = awesome

**gabe** · 12-17-11, 07:05 PM

Locked him up at -280.

**socrates01** · 12-17-11, 08:09 PM

Got him at -275...think he outclasses the less experienced OSP.

**sideloaded** · 12-18-11, 01:11 AM

nice call mousasi backers. I wish he finished that kemura though

**gabe** · 12-18-11, 04:34 AM

Wow, this fight was a steal at -280. I tried to advice you guys not to bet against. Value, schmalue. Mousasi wasn't going to lose this bout.

**Vaughany** · 12-18-11, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Wow, this fight was a steal at -280. I tried to advice you guys not to bet against. Value, schmalue. Mousasi wasn't going to lose this bout.

Well done Gabriel

**v1y** · 12-18-11, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Wow, this fight was a steal at -280. I tried to advice you guys not to bet against. Value, schmalue. Mousasi wasn't going to lose this bout.

lmao what a tool.