Mousasi -600

[Kaladarus]

Some here may be surprised by this, but there are many people here that follow Oddessa's twitter, tweet him and listen to him when he goes on MMA shows. I'm not saying he's the best or anything, but I catch most the shows he talks on as well and I know he does really well. He is one of the nicest guys out there and is the only lines maker out there breaking down every single fight for every single card.

Also he did say himself that he opened the Mousasi line too high, but there could be a lot more to that statement than most here know. As far as saying -600 was a mistake that is an unknown as far as I'm concerned. You can't argue this when Mousasi was sick and had an awful camp. If things went better for him and he was closer to 100% he may have been worth every cent of -600. The money could have came in on OSP with knowledge of Mousasi's camp. In the end Mousasi gave OSP a beating and basically won a one sided fight. He was never in any trouble and had the decision locked up.

[sideloaded]

Not suprising this is SBR. They masquerade as a the last great hope for the player offshore, all the while basically being the largest affiliate out there. Talk about a conflict of interest. I swear more people post here working for the books then betting against them. Reading up on game theory and how it relates to liquid markets I really don't see the benefit of anyone sharing any information on here. Because every crumb of information will just work against them in some way.

[sideloaded]

Some here may be surprised by this, but there are many people here that follow Oddessa's twitter, tweet him and listen to him when he goes on MMA shows. I'm not saying he's the best or anything, but I catch most the shows he talks on as well and I know he does really well. He is one of the nicest guys out there and is the only lines maker out there breaking down every single fight for every single card.

Also he did say himself that he opened the Mousasi line too high, but there could be a lot more to that statement than most here know. As far as saying -600 was a mistake that is an unknown as far as I'm concerned. You can't argue this when Mousasi was sick and had an awful camp. If things went better for him and he was closer to 100% he may have been worth every cent of -600. The money could have came in on OSP with knowledge of Mousasi's camp. In the end Mousasi gave OSP a beating and basically won a one sided fight. He was never in any trouble and had the decision locked up.

I think everyone is missing the point. The outcome of the fight is irrelevant. anyone who bet the opposite of -600 was guaranteed to make money. I saw the line and made this thread to help a few catch this line and print free money. As the thread progresses. It turns into manly bookmakers and consultants defending themselves. Little do they know they just outed themselves and made everyone open their eyes to sharing any information on here. I know i will never make another thread with any information that would lead to people making money. Because in the end it turns into this shit fest of people feeling sorry for the SPORTSBOOK which is f-cking evil. They will take every f-cking dime off people and not feel one bit remorseful. A sportsbook is about as evil as corporate America times ten. Try to make money off them, and they will limit you and boot you. Make no mistake about it they only want loosing players.

[gabe]

Kid Genius. I love it.

I want to buy you a (root) beer, kid.

[Kaladarus]

You said Mousasi -600 wtf and you think this was going to make people free money? Anyone that didn't know how this line was going to move couldn't take advantage of this and those who did already took advantage of it. You don't have a point in this thread at all. You never gave any info on where you thought the line would end up and never once said that there was free money to be made when the line was at it's peak.

[sideloaded]

You said Mousasi -600 wtf and you think this was going to make people free money? Anyone that didn't know how this line was going to move couldn't take advantage of this and those who did already took advantage of it. You don't have a point in this thread at all. You never gave any info on where you thought the line would end up and never once said that there was free money to be made when the line was at it's peak.

sorry let me hold your hand longer next time. do you think -600 wtf means get some of that? LOL Did you see what vaughany and everyone with a clue screamed arb and dropped large amount of units on OSP? Next time I will give links to the arb calculator, all the limits at various bookmakers, fund your accounts for you and personally put in the arbs for you.

This kind of thinking is exactly whats wrong with gambling forums, people complaining and not even knowing they are given hand outs.

/done wasting my time

[Kaladarus]

sorry let me hold your hand longer next time. do you think -600 wtf means get some of that? LOL Did you see what vaughany and everyone with a clue screamed arb and dropped large amount of units on OSP? Next time I will give links to the arb calculator, all the limits at various bookmakers, fund your accounts for you and personally put in the arbs for you.

This kind of thinking is exactly whats wrong with gambling forums, people complaining and not even knowing they are given hand outs.

/done wasting my time

Large amount of units? What is that one max bet? How many bets you think were possible for one account at +400? Congratulations for those that made $30 free money... Free money is free money, but you didn't do anything. By the time the discussion started on this thread the lines already at +300. Saying Mousasi wtf could mean anything. It probably doesn't mean you think he should be a larger favorite, but it could easily mean you think he should be around -400 which means there is no money to be made in an arb. Like I said those that played OSP at +400 (myself included) didn't do it because of your post and I would like one person to step up here and say that they bet OSP at +400 because of something you said. The chances of you finding one person that you made free money is pretty much impossible because like I said... saying Mousasi -600 doesn't do anything.

You say stuff like Bodog barely made money on the fight after because of low starting limits and now you are talking like there were huge opportunities here. Bodog did make good money here because the line movement was very one sided. You would understand this by looking at the movement, but you only refer to lines because you think others don't know what you are saying and use them when it is convenient.

Vaughany said easy arb and he was right. You didn't help anything. You actually went on saying "I'm guessing he has some kind of inside info". Saying that is pretty much saying don't take the arb because the line may be right and may not move from -600 to better than -400.

[sideloaded]

Large amount of units? What is that one max bet? How many bets you think were possible for one account at +400? Congratulations for those that made $30 free money... Free money is free money, but you didn't do anything. By the time the discussion started on this thread the lines already at +300. Saying Mousasi wtf could mean anything. It probably doesn't mean you think he should be a larger favorite, but it could easily mean you think he should be around -400 which means there is no money to be made in an arb. Like I said those that played OSP at +400 (myself included) didn't do it because of your post and I would like one person to step up here and say that they bet OSP at +400 because of something you said. The chances of you finding one person that you made free money is pretty much impossible because like I said... saying Mousasi -600 doesn't do anything.

You say stuff like Bodog barely made money on the fight after because of low starting limits and now you are talking like there were huge opportunities here. Bodog did make good money here because the line movement was very one sided. You would understand this by looking at the movement, but you only refer to lines because you think others don't know what you are saying and use them when it is convenient.

Vaughany said easy arb and he was right. You didn't help anything. You actually went on saying "I'm guessing he has some kind of inside info". Saying that is pretty much saying don't take the arb because the line may be right and may not move from -600 to better than -400.

You basically agree with everything I said so what is your problem? Betting the soft side and letting it ride is +EV then arb'ing out over the long haul.

[sideloaded]

Congratulations for those that made $30 free money... Free money is free money

yep

By the time the discussion started on this thread the lines already at +300.

this is wrong

Saying Mousasi wtf could mean anything

congratulations you're a simpleton

It probably doesn't mean you think he should be a larger favorite, but it could easily mean you think he should be around -400 which means there is no money to be made in an arb

anticipating line movement might be important

didn't do it because of your post and I would like one person to step up here and say that they bet OSP at +400 because of something you said. The chances of you finding one person that you made free money is pretty much impossible because like I said... saying Mousasi -600 doesn't do anything.

why are you so butthurt? did I creampie your mom or something?

I enjoyed your straw man agrument, as much as I could follow it. Basically your saying I have no idea what I'm talking about because I didn't come out and say what I meant by wtf. You doubt I ever helped anyone which is fine with me I couldn't care less helping people like you. And you're saying since I said he might have inside info I bet Mousasi? Did it ever occur to you I was joking? Because actually Mousasi was sick and the line should have probably been even lower. Thanks for playing.

[Kaladarus]

You basically agree with everything I said so what is your problem? Betting the soft side and letting it ride is +EV then arb'ing out over the long haul.

Actually I don't agree with a lot of what you have said and you would understand that if you read my posts. A lot of the stuff you say contradicts itself if you reread my post you may figure this out.

[Kaladarus]

yep

this is wrong

congratulations you're a simpleton

anticipating line movement might be important

why are you so butthurt? did I creampie your mom or something?

I enjoyed your straw man agrument, as much as I could follow it. Basically your saying I have no idea what I'm talking about because I didn't come out and say what I meant by wtf. You doubt I ever helped anyone which is fine with me I couldn't care less helping people like you. And you're saying since I said he might have inside info I bet Mousasi? Did it ever occur to you I was joking? Because actually Mousasi was sick and the line should have probably been even lower. Thanks for playing.

You obviously didn't have this info and no one else that posted said anything so it would be foolish to assume you were joking.

[Kaladarus]

It might also help if you stopped talking about line movement since you didn't mention it before the line closed or during the times when it moved. You talk about the numbers and how people are talking about Bodog winning after the fact, but you never talked about the lines until after the fact as well.

[proposition joe]

Well done, kid. I'm impressed.

[sideloaded]

This is the first truly interesting conversation I've ever seen here.

Sideloaded is right about almost everything.

Beating the closing line isn't a concept that matters as much in one-off events. Not in the way it does it math-heavier sports like MLB/NFL.

damn homie nunya used to like me!

[pouyasophy]

damn homie nunya used to like me!

No one likes you. They just don't argue with you because your life and well-being revolves around Women's MMA and no one else cares.

[NunyaBidness]

damn homie nunya used to like me!

Heh, was just reading this thread too, didn't realized you bumped it.

Got to that post and thought, "Wow, sider used to be civil towards me."

[sideloaded]

Heh, was just reading this thread too, didn't realized you bumped it.

Got to that post and thought, "Wow, sider used to be civil towards me."

im glad we hugged it out