UFC 138: Leben vs Munoz

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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #36
    Originally posted by proposition joe
    With a questionable chin at that. Etim for KO of the Night makes more sense to me.

    I'm getting the impression that many people are going to be on Young for an underdog play and I plan on taking advantage of this and hopefully getting a decent line on Omigawa. I like Young and definately see the argument, but I can't help but think that if Poirier can get takedowns then Omigawa can do that as well. I'm liking the square play here.

    The only dog (as far as my expectations) that I'm liking is Paul Taylor. He's seemingly much harder to finish than Njokuani and will hopefully avoid a technical battle.

    Both plays will be dependant upon the lines, of course, and relatively small.
    Yeah but if Etim does get a KO he is potentially going to be competing with a few other KO's for KO of the Night. All of the main card fights have potential to have a KO finish - especially with Leben, Alves, and Njokuani and then Diabate on undercard.
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    • proposition joe
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-06-11
      • 532

      #37
      Originally posted by Vaughany
      Yeah but if Etim does get a KO he is potentially going to be competing with a few other KO's for KO of the Night. All of the main card fights have potential to have a KO finish - especially with Leben, Alves, and Njokuani and then Diabate on undercard.
      Good point.

      I don't see Njokuani getting a KO though. Paul Taylor is very hard to finish.

      Diabate and Alves are legit possibilities though.
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #38
        Originally posted by proposition joe
        Good point.

        I don't see Njokuani getting a KO though. Paul Taylor is very hard to finish.

        Diabate and Alves are legit possibilities though.
        yeah Taylor has great endurance, wont be easy for Njokuani to finish, but I still have tht beating tht he delivered to Winner in my mind - was amazing tht Dre suvived that, Taylor is tougher than Winner but the weight-cut is very tough for him and reason why he's pulled out of fights twice.
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        • poopoo333
          SBR High Roller
          • 05-30-11
          • 144

          #39
          Phillip De Fries/Rob Broughton....thoughts?
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          • ghost kid
            SBR Sharp
            • 09-23-08
            • 280

            #40
            Despite tape-delayed main card, UFC 138 prelims stream live on Facebook


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            • TheCalculator
              SBR MVP
              • 10-10-11
              • 1683

              #41
              Originally posted by poopoo333
              Phillip De Fries/Rob Broughton....thoughts?
              Lean mean submission artist vs. Fat tough striker
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              • TheCalculator
                SBR MVP
                • 10-10-11
                • 1683

                #42
                Originally posted by illmatick
                hoping for a decent price on John Maguire.
                I don't mean this in disrespectful way but your post (And Vaughany's reply) probably moved the line.

                I'll bet $500 that the MMA bookies read this forum to get "the pulse" on where the sharps think the fighters are at. We discussed this before UFC 137. The reality is... SBR forum is a fairly sharp place for handicappers. And there's a few guys here with proven records and the bookies will factor their opinions.

                If I was making lines for the books -- this is one of the 1st places I would check to adjust my line before I release it.

                I'm personally going to shut up BEFORE the lines come out. I'll share a few thoughts after.

                Again -- feel free to post whatever you want. This is all just a suggestion.
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                • TheCalculator
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-10-11
                  • 1683

                  #43
                  thanks! Great news!
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                  • The HOFF
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-02-08
                    • 4847

                    #44
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                    • Vitooch
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-26-11
                      • 3470

                      #45
                      Ugly lines..maybe Alves and Njokuani parlay.

                      Don't know anything about Papy Abedi though.

                      And I must admit, I haven't seen any Brad Pickett or Barao fights.

                      Guess I'll have to do some research
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #46
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                        • bogbat
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-21-10
                          • 1843

                          #47
                          opinions on the biggest chance of an upset here?
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #48
                            Originally posted by bogbat
                            opinions on the biggest chance of an upset here?
                            Picket from main card
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                            • Mr.Kitty
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-10-09
                              • 1880

                              #49
                              The Makambo Story (Papy Abedi)



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                              • Mr.Kitty
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-10-09
                                • 1880

                                #50
                                Part 3 and 4



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                                • rocky mattioli
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-26-10
                                  • 1263

                                  #51
                                  i watched some video on papy...i wanted to like the guy(imo,alves is sketchy)....but i wasn`t blown away...

                                  i want to use bendo and munoz in a par,but i`m afraid that munoz will have a stumblef-ck of a gameplan and try and stand with leben.......
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                                  • proposition joe
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-06-11
                                    • 532

                                    #52
                                    I actually really like Barao at -150 and Taylor at +240.
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                                    • bjpenn85
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-17-11
                                      • 5059

                                      #53
                                      do you think picketts line will improve or get worse?
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #54
                                        Might go back to +150, probably wont be much movement
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                                        • proposition joe
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-06-11
                                          • 532

                                          #55
                                          Why do you like Pickett here Vaughany?
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by proposition joe
                                            Why do you like Pickett here Vaughany?
                                            Im not necessarily on Picket, I'm about 50/50 on this one, so I'd play Pickett at current odds if I had to. I'll probably jus play fight to go the distance.
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                                            • proposition joe
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 10-06-11
                                              • 532

                                              #57
                                              Damnit.

                                              Taylor/Njokuani scratched from 138. Perosh/Diabate to main card.
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #58


                                                Sucks...Im asking Dana for a refund!
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #59
                                                  Wolfslair fighter Leeroy Barnes just tweeted this: "Signed, sealed and Delivered..... :-D watch this space.... " Maybe he's been added but he's at 170?
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                                                  • TheCalculator
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-10-11
                                                    • 1683

                                                    #60
                                                    Wow -- Taylor is an injury machine.
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                                                    • Vaughany
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                      • 45563

                                                      #61
                                                      He got whiplash from a car accident to be fair! Not his usual issues with weight-cutting
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #62
                                                        Think Odessa will be releasing the rest of the lines shortly
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                          Think Odessa will be releasing the rest of the lines shortly
                                                          2 minutes after I type that the odds come out on Bodog and Sportsbook...

                                                          Jason Young +350...ridiculous...hammer that people that have a Bodog account... unfortunately I dont!

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                                                          • Vaughany
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                            • 45563

                                                            #64
                                                            Value in Broughton as well at +145, fight is more like a pick-em
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                                                            • Vaughany
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 03-07-10
                                                              • 45563

                                                              #65
                                                              And Young down to +300 and Broughton +120
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                                                              • bjpenn85
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-17-11
                                                                • 5059

                                                                #66
                                                                looks like people dont believe the renan barao hype (which sucks for me). no money on bookmaker, dont have the opportunity to bet on bodog
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                                                                • TheCalculator
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-10-11
                                                                  • 1683

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Insane odds -- the odd makers have gone the other direction (leaning way too heavy on favorites). Diabate -500? Etim -600? Omigawa -450?

                                                                  Total craziness. Zero value there. Nothing but waiting for the lines to move.

                                                                  Even Mills at -210?
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                                                                  • NunyaBidness
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-26-09
                                                                    • 9345

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    2 minutes after I type that the odds come out on Bodog and Sportsbook...

                                                                    Jason Young +350...ridiculous...hammer that people that have a Bodog account... unfortunately I dont!
                                                                    Why don't you open one then? Love both of those lines as well. Like Perosh at +350 too.
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                                                                    • illmatick
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 5456

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                      Im not necessarily on Picket, I'm about 50/50 on this one, so I'd play Pickett at current odds if I had to. I'll probably jus play fight to go the distance.
                                                                      I actually think Pickett takes this fight closer to 55% of the time. Love getting him as a dog here.

                                                                      Maguire and Cope are playable as well imo.
                                                                      Last edited by illmatick; 11-01-11, 01:34 PM.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                        Why don't you open one then? Love both of those lines as well. Like Perosh at +350 too.
                                                                        If u sign up to Bodog in UK u have to join the .co.uk one or something - doesnt bring out the lines that the main Bodog does until day or 2 after so is pointless for me
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