UFC 135: Jones vs Rampage

FindTheLock · 09-21-11, 11:35 AM

I am not saying that I think this is a determining factor about anything, and I was originally only joking. I was just making an observation based on my disdain for jon jones. I am being a homer here guys settle down. haha I need to find a reason to believe rampage has a chance.

sirchadwick1 · 09-21-11, 11:41 AM

Phew... thought you were dead serious for a second and was going to send you some informational links and studies lol.

Oh Rampage has a chance... probably moreso than the odds say. But Jones is a freakin beast. I'm not a fan either, but I like to win $$$.

Jones inside the distance baby! Luckily I caught it at -147.

FindTheLock · 09-21-11, 11:44 AM

I am wearing my homer goggles for this one so I will not be betting. I can't root against rampage. I have always liked the guy, and I have to cheer for him in this one. I don't want to have money on jones, however, I do think he will kick rampages ass.

ghost kid · 09-21-11, 03:35 PM

Glitch · 09-21-11, 04:02 PM

my first time betting against bones was my last time betting against bones.

sirchadwick1 · 09-21-11, 04:34 PM

Same here Glitch. Lost my $ on Ryan Bader against Bones... and then lost more on Bader vs. Ortiz.
No more Master bets for me. Bones will bring home the dough... he's got Dr. Phil backing him.

Vaughany · 09-21-11, 05:35 PM

Put small play on Diaz by TKO/KO at +2000...too good to resist, down to +1500 now

Kaladarus · 09-21-11, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Put small play on Diaz by TKO/KO at +2000...too good to resist, down to +1500 now

I maxed this also. How can this line even be close to accurate.

GunShard · 09-22-11, 02:19 AM

Anyone know if Jones is also training in the thin air of Colorado? Jackson has been training in the thin air.

Vaughany · 09-22-11, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by GunShard

Anyone know if Jones is also training in the thin air of Colorado? Jackson has been training in the thin air.

Jackson's is in Albuquerque dude, it's not like he is training in New York!

bogbat · 09-22-11, 02:58 PM

This main card is so juicy. Only the facebook prelims are really worth playing straight up and even there I don't think I have much of an edge without watching hours of fights which I don't have the time to do right now. What are you guys on for the facebook prelims?

Actually, a small play on Hunt via TKO/KO may be worthwhile.

phillybadboy · 09-22-11, 05:06 PM

where is je sus?

Vaughany · 09-22-11, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by phillybadboy

where is je sus?

Busy fondling his rooster and making millions...beateding everybody

GunShard · 09-23-11, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

Same here Glitch. Lost my $ on Ryan Bader against Bones... and then lost more on Bader vs. Ortiz.
No more Master bets for me. Bones will bring home the dough... he's got Dr. Phil backing him.

I never bet on Ryan Bader and Thiago Alves, they are fighters that look big but not reliable on winning fights.

GunShard · 09-23-11, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Jackson's is in Albuquerque dude, it's not like he is training in New York!

Did you not watch Countdown To UFC 135? Rampage Jackson is training in thin air.

Someone tell me where the fuk Jon Jones is training at?

If Jones is not training in thin air the whole time. Then Rampage has the advantage on cardio.

Shafted69 · 09-23-11, 12:28 AM

Jones is going tear Jackson a new hole and send him into retirement. This won't even be close.

Vaughany · 09-23-11, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by GunShard

Did you not watch Countdown To UFC 135? Rampage Jackson is training in thin air.

Someone tell me where the fuk Jon Jones is training at?

If Jones is not training in thin air the whole time. Then Rampage has the advantage on cardio.

Yeah like I said in the post I just quoted, Jones is training in New Mexico as he always does at Jacksons!

Das Jax · 09-23-11, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

I maxed this also. How can this line even be close to accurate.

Because Gomi has never been knocked out and since Diaz is expected to play it smart by going for the submission... it's unlikely that he'll be the first to do so.

NunyaBidness · 09-23-11, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by Das Jax

Because Gomi has never been knocked out and since Diaz is expected to play it smart by going for the submission... it's unlikely that he'll be the first to do so.

I don't think anyone expect Diaz to play it smart. If this goes to the ground it's because Gomi takes him down or Gomi falls down and Diaz follows him.

Lusty_Argonian · 09-23-11, 12:20 PM

Diaz will not knock Gomi out, that is the most outrageous bet I've heard.

Gomi's cardio gets shot, Gomi's heart can go Kaput, but never never never will his GIANT mongoloid head ever stop working against the knockout.

I have Diaz by sub at +250, and Gomi straight at +221. They'll both be set up in parlays throughout the week.

sirchadwick1 · 09-23-11, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Lusty_Argonian

Diaz will not knock Gomi out, that is the most outrageous bet I've heard.

Gomi's cardio gets shot, Gomi's heart can go Kaput, but never never never will his GIANT mongoloid head ever stop working against the knockout.

I have Diaz by sub at +250, and Gomi straight at +221. They'll both be set up in parlays throughout the week.

Diaz doesn't have to knock him out.... he can just wear him down on an accumulation of punches and possibly get a stoppage. It's more likely that he submits him, but at +1500 for (T)KO I think it's worth a small play.

Lusty_Argonian · 09-23-11, 12:26 PM

*@^&* I didn't know it was +1500!

If that's the case good luck with your bets, I truthfully think there's at least a 15% chance of it happening.

sirchadwick1 · 09-23-11, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Lusty_Argonian

*@^&* I didn't know it was +1500!

If that's the case good luck with your bets, I truthfully think there's at least a 15% chance of it happening.

+1500 is giving Nate a 6% chance of (T)KOing him so I'd say there's good value for sure. Now it's down to +1100.

Vaughany · 09-23-11, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I don't think anyone expect Diaz to play it smart. If this goes to the ground it's because Gomi takes him down or Gomi falls down and Diaz follows him.

Or Diaz drops him with punches maybe? He dropped and finished Markham with strikes so it's not out of the question. And he took down Marcus Davis before choking him out so dont see why he can't do same with Gomi

5mike5 · 09-23-11, 01:20 PM

is there ANY value in rampage at +425?

Vaughany · 09-23-11, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

is there ANY value in rampage at +425?

Nope but there will be in Rampage KO of the Night at +800 or better.

sirchadwick1 · 09-23-11, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Nope but there will be in Rampage KO of the Night at +800 or better.

Absolutely love that as a hedge. Can't see him winning any other way... but the Rampage by DEC prop was at +1565 at one point.

cheeese · 09-23-11, 04:58 PM

Diaz could easily get a KO if Gomi gasses hard going into the third.

Vaughany · 09-23-11, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

+1500 is giving Nate a 6% chance of (T)KOing him so I'd say there's good value for sure. Now it's down to +1100.

Down to +675 now

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-23-11, 05:23 PM

Jones with a real staredown at the weigh-ins for a change...

SportsPedagogy · 09-23-11, 08:20 PM

I skipped out on the weigh ins , one of the guys I coach with went , said rampage is in a bad mood. Really focused. I'm about to go watch Joe Rogan in a bit. Might pick up tickets if try drop low on stub hub tomorrow

GunShard · 09-24-11, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yeah like I said in the post I just quoted, Jones is training in New Mexico as he always does at Jacksons!

Ok, I misread your post.

Let's see if the thin air effects Jones or not.

The HOFF · 09-24-11, 02:41 AM

Diaz has never looked this good. He has always been soft even at 155.

cheeese · 09-24-11, 02:57 PM

What do you guys think of Gomi/Diaz doesn't go the distance? Seems like one way or another a finish will occur. Either Gomi has his way and beats the shit out of Diaz or he tires and then gets subbed or KOed.

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-24-11, 04:12 PM

I kinda love this event, but hate it at the same time... but f*ckit, I'm making small plays -- and just risking about 1/5 of my profits from last weeks retarded MMA-NFL parlay-teaser hot streak... Jon Jones and the Patriots shall decide my weekend here... hoping to be in a position tomorrow AM to hedge with a Bills bet

RISK / TO WIN / WAGER

1.00u / 0.70u / Jones inside distance, Rothwell

0.50u / 1.00u / Escovedo
0.50u / 1.13u / Falcons over Eagles, Jones, Cain-JDS not distance
0.50u / 0.41u / Patriots, Miss St, Baylor, Page-Jones not distance
0.50u / 0.81u / Patriots, Miss St, Iowa, Jones, Joe Warren

0.25u / 2.00u / Rampage KOTN
0.25u / 4.22u / Jones, Browne, Rothwell, Riley, Boetsch, te Huna

0.13u / 3.51u / Hughes sub of the night
0.13u / 2.00u / Diaz sub of the night
0.13u / 2.25u / Jones inside distance, Browne inside distance, Rothwell by sub, Fergusion by KO/TKO, Botcsh-Ring goes distance
0.13u / 2.12u / Riley, Escovedo, Te Huna
0.13u / 4.14u / Patriots, Panthers, Jones by sub, Koscheck inside distance, Browne inside distance
0.13u / 1.85u / Patriots, Saints, Seahawks, Koscheck, Browne, Ferguson, Boetsch

0.06u / 20.09u / Bengals -2.5, LSU ML, Baylor ML, Rampage in Round 1, Hughes inside distance