UFC 135: Jones vs Rampage

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Ben Rothwell -350
Mark Hunt +250

[MMAbetMASTA]

Ben Rothwell -350
Mark Hunt +250

I'll be making a small upset play on hunt at anything above +200, hopefully he comes on my bookies site soon...

Ben will be tough and could definitely ground hunt and sub him, but his tall ass frame compared to mark's short stocky frame is gonna be tough for him to change levels and scoop up hunt, especially when he has big bombs coming his way. I wish he would just slug it out with hunt, but something tells me he is smarter than that and will be looking to take it down asap. Hopefully hunt is working nothing but sprawl (as he pretty much should have been doing for all his past fights - I still think the guy could be great if he could learn good tdd and sub defense). I don't see hunt being an idiot like against big sexy and playing right into ben's ground game. For some reason I ultimately think hunt's sprawl and brawl approach will be effective against a guy like ben and his style. Either way I think we'll see a finish in this one and it should be exciting.

[gabe]

I'll be making a small upset play on hunt at anything above +200, hopefully he comes on my bookies site soon...

Ben will be tough and could definitely ground hunt and sub him, but his tall ass frame compared to mark's short stocky frame is gonna be tough for him to change levels and scoop up hunt, especially when he has big bombs coming his way. I wish he would just slug it out with hunt, but something tells me he is smarter than that and will be looking to take it down asap. Hopefully hunt is working nothing but sprawl (as he pretty much should have been doing for all his past fights - I still think the guy could be great if he could learn good tdd and sub defense). I don't see hunt being an idiot like against big sexy and playing right into ben's ground game. For some reason I ultimately think hunt's sprawl and brawl approach will be effective against a guy like ben and his style. Either way I think we'll see a finish in this one and it should be exciting.

agreed

[Vaughany]

I'd only play Hunt by TKO/KO at better odds if you have the option of the prop. Makes no sense to play him straight up to me if you can get by TKO/KO

[Semt3x]

I'd only play Hunt by TKO/KO at better odds if you have the option of the prop. Makes no sense to play him straight up to me if you can get by TKO/KO

Definitely agreed.

[NunyaBidness]

Tim Boetch -125 looked good to me, wish I would've hit that +110 at 5d.

[PunisherIND]

5dimes/sportbet and bookmaker have released the full lines for this event. timmy boetsch opened at +110 but has moved to -140. i was able to drop 3 units on the +110 before it moved.

[ghost kid]

Interesting that dimes followed so quickly after bookmaker. Usually they wait to see where the #'s travel for a few hours. Or did they open first? Boetsch line quickly flipped and on the move.

[Vaughany]

Maxed out on Boetsch at +110 as well (although in a double parlay with Ferguson at -265). Got Te Huna at -120 as well, now at -161.

[brooks85]

jumped on it early too, i love te huna here

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Wow -285 for Ferguson, seems steep for a TUF winner, even if its against Riley

[illmatick]

Wow -285 for Ferguson, seems steep for a TUF winner, even if its against Riley

agree, Ferguson too steep imo. I might have something small on Riley.

[Educ8d Degener8]

agree, Ferguson too steep imo. I might have something small on Riley.

Farealz... Fergie pushing -300... wtf

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

I hope they release the rest of the main card odds for the Versus show so i can parlay them with 135. These two shows are comparable in quality fights.

Championship fight: Jones vs. Quinton Jackson - Dominick Cruz vs. Demetrious Johnson
Welterweight fight: Matt Hughes vs. Josh Koscheck - Charlie Brenneman vs. Anthony Johnson
Lightweight fight: Nate Diaz vs. Takanori Gomi - Mac Danzig vs. Matt Wiman
Heaveyweight fight: Rob Broughton vs. Travis Browne - Pat Barry vs. Stefan Struve

[ghost kid]

Riley trained at Jackson's for this fight:

http://www.fighters.com/09/16/aaron-riley-blog-maintaining-balance-in-training-ufn-25

[NunyaBidness]

Riley trained at Jackson's for this fight:
http://www.fighters.com/09/16/aaron-...raining-ufn-25

Hasn't he been at jackson's for a while?

[ghost kid]

Hasn't he been at jackson's for a while?

You are probably right. This junkie story made it sound like he bounced around a bit the last few years. Maybe he left, then returned?

http://mmajunkie.com/news/24448/108-year-old-aaron-riley-wants-to-show-ufc-135-crowd-vintage-cage-warfare.mma

[Vaughany]

Riley has always been at Jacksons far as im aware

[ghost kid]

Riley has always been at Jacksons far as im aware

Thumbs up. Thanks. Article made it sound otherwise. Sounds like the UFC kind of forgot about him after he pulled out of 119. He says in the interview that he called them and asked for another shot.

[Vaughany]

Very good blog, shows some great footage from backstage at Rio and New Orleans...

[MMAbetMASTA]

I'd only play Hunt by TKO/KO at better odds if you have the option of the prop. Makes no sense to play him straight up to me if you can get by TKO/KO

good point...gracias.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Maxed out on Boetsch at +110 as well (although in a double parlay with Ferguson at -265). Got Te Huna at -120 as well, now at -161.

Let's get your breakdown on the boetch fight, please? I was already thinking about a play, but would like some insight.

Any of you other guys have a good breakdown for this one, post it on up!!! GL!




And yes, bummer feguson opened so heavy, from the moment I saw this match up on the card I was all about it, but that's a bit pricey for me....Might parlay him as others are doing, its just I hate putting more money in 5 dimes (make all my str8 bets through my buddies small bookie site, coast2coast sports).

[ghost kid]

C'mon Son! Ed Lover Talks UFC 135

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXyeKn0P5bY

Apparently Ed Lover doesn't understand odds - he wants even money on Bones.

[Educ8d Degener8]

Page's mocking of Jones' no-stare was pretty LOLy.

He shoop'd him in real-time with a "hey, look over there!"

[FindTheLock]

Rampage is funny when he doesn't cross the line. Sometimes he takes it too far. I don't like Jones so I enjoyed this stunt from rampage a lot.

[brooks85]

his first black gremlin comment was funny

[Vaughany]

Let's get your breakdown on the boetch fight, please? I was already thinking about a play, but would like some insight.

Any of you other guys have a good breakdown for this one, post it on up!!! GL!




And yes, bummer feguson opened so heavy, from the moment I saw this match up on the card I was all about it, but that's a bit pricey for me....Might parlay him as others are doing, its just I hate putting more money in 5 dimes (make all my str8 bets through my buddies small bookie site, coast2coast sports).

I only took Boetsch because I got the opener as a +110 dog. I don't see any value in the current line to be honest, I'd probably of taken Boetsch up to -125. Ring is very durable and will have equal if not better stand-up than Boetsch, and as we've already seen judges like to give him decisions! So if your playing Boetsch your pretty much counting on him getting enough takedowns and having enough control to guarantee a decision, which there is a reasonable chance of happening as we saw Boetsch has good takedowns and an obvious size and strength advantage at MW. Just think I'd be more happy playing Boetsch by decision at +150 or better rather than Boetsch at -160. Boetsch could TKO Ring but as I already said Ring is very durable

[GunShard]

If you have Comcast. You can watch Countdown to UFC 135".

Click on the On Demand main menu, then "Sports and Fitness", then "UFC, Boxing and WWE" then "UFC all events" then click on "Countdown to UFC 135" part 1 and part 2.

[Vaughany]

[kingkobe]

Page's mocking of Jones' no-stare was pretty LOLy.

He shoop'd him in real-time with a "hey, look over there!"

Did Jones ever say explain why he does that? Does he feel his opponents aren't good enough to look him in the eye lol.

[FindTheLock]

one thing you can tell from that picture is that rampage is stronger than jones. A lot strong looking at their forearms. Jones has height and reach and technical skills though, however, it only takes one punch from rampage to put an untested chin like jones' to sleep.

[Vaughany]

one thing you can tell from that picture is that rampage is stronger than jones. A lot strong looking at their forearms. Jones has height and reach and technical skills though, however, it only takes one punch from rampage to put an untested chin like jones' to sleep.

I wouldnt necessarily say somebody is stronger because they have a thicker body...pretty sure I've got thicker forearms and a thicker body than Mark Hominick, but if I challenged him to a weight lifting competition Im also pretty sure he'd woop my ass!

[Educ8d Degener8]

Did Jones ever say explain why he does that? Does he feel his opponents aren't good enough to look him in the eye lol.

http://www.mmaresolutions.com/jon-jones-explains-why-he-doesnt-look-his-opponents-in-the-eye

Here's a better view of Quinton's shooping at the presser...

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/7/19/2283601/jon-jones-vs-rampage-jackson-staredown-gif-from-ufc-135-press

[FindTheLock]

I wouldnt necessarily say somebody is stronger because they have a thicker body...pretty sure I've got thicker forearms and a thicker body than Mark Hominick, but if I challenged him to a weight lifting competition Im also pretty sure he'd woop my ass!

while I would agree that the body mass doesn't always mean what I said is true, when comparing two men who both train to fight all the time I would consider it a higher probability more often than not. Just an observation. If you were to bet on it, which one would you bet on in a weight lifting competition? My money is on rampage...

[sirchadwick1]

Lifting weights is completley different than using your muscles in MMA. Go watch Baroni or Pudzilla fights and then tell me weight lifting gives them an advantage... power maybe, but they lack everywhere else. Functional muscle is key in this sport. Lock, I thought you were actually joking with your original comment about Rampage being stronger than Jones b/c of his forearm size LOL. My forearms are small, but I've arm-wrestled big dudes and beat them with ease. Aesthetics mean very little in MMA. Sure Quinton may outbench Jon by 100 lbs... but I actually think Jones is stronger than Rampage in terms of functional muscle and it will show in the fight. Rampage has stellar TDD, but I think Bones will ragdoll him once or twice when he tires.