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  • cheeese
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-22-11
    • 784

    #71
    Davis will likely try a kick based striking attack like he did in the standup against Nog. I think 2 judges actually gave Davis the 1st round where all he did was get his kicks blocked. If Rashad comes out wanting to throw hands, he will have to get into boxing range, making it easier for Davis to try to take him down.
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    • Vaughany
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 03-07-10
      • 45563

      #72
      Originally posted by cheeese
      Davis will likely try a kick based striking attack like he did in the standup against Nog. I think 2 judges actually gave Davis the 1st round where all he did was get his kicks blocked. If Rashad comes out wanting to throw hands, he will have to get into boxing range, making it easier for Davis to try to take him down.
      Davis' balance when he throws kicks isnt great, Rashad could definitely take advantage of that to get a takedown himself. Ther was a couple of times wer Davis almost fell over after attempting kicks in the Nog fight!
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      • Chairib
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-08-10
        • 917

        #73
        Nog's style isn't one that looks to put the other guy on his back. He was trying to keep it standing against Davis. And since that was the case, Davis could throw kicks with little worry. But it would be the last thing you want to do against another wrestler, all you're doing is giving him something to catch and take you down with. Regardless, I don't see Rashad throwing too many strikes in this fight, as his fighting style has dramatically changed since his KO loss to Machida. He's gotten rid of "Bro Cop" and returned to his 2006 style, going back to the wrestler who beat Sam Hodger and Bonner by decision.

        For both of these guys, the real goal is to fight Bones for the championship, that means you're fighting not to lose and essentially following a gameplan designed to minimize the possibility for mistakes. You're going to try to turn it into a battle for position and ride clock as much as possible. That means two things: 1) takedown away from the fence; or 2) clinch and pin the opponent against the fence. Pinning the opponent up against the fence is great way to ride clock, keep doing it until the ref orders you apart. If you do get a takedown, stay in his guard, and try to look busy in order to prevent a stand up from the refs.

        If this does comedown to a takedown contest, I think the advantage is with Rashad. Rashad only has to worry about defending the takedown, while Davis still has to respect Rashad's striking as well as takedown ability. That's a huge advantage for Rashad in this fight.
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        • kmdubya
          SBR Sharp
          • 06-04-11
          • 405

          #74
          Originally posted by Chairib
          If this does comedown to a takedown contest, I think the advantage is with Rashad. Rashad only has to worry about defending the takedown, while Davis still has to respect Rashad's striking as well as takedown ability. That's a huge advantage for Rashad in this fight.
          Rashad has better speed as well, so his shoot for a TD will be faster, as well as with jabs and the "Rashad dance" while looking for punches or takedowns.

          I don't really see anywhere Davis holds an advantage other than submissions, which aren't that threatening against top level talent.
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          • cheeese
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-22-11
            • 784

            #75
            You guys are right. Rashad tends to get caught striking but that shouldn't be a problem because Davis will be reluctant to throw hands with Rashad.
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            • koscheckbaby
              SBR MVP
              • 04-05-10
              • 1314

              #76
              Originally posted by Ladle
              Yup, I have quite a bit on Rogerio at -150.



              Since when does Davis win ugly? He had one less than stellar performance against Rogerio. Otherwise, he has consistently shown an incredible ability to be innovative with his grappling without being reckless.
              Not finishing Rodney Wallace is bad IMO for the advantage he had, even Stann at LHW
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              • Fiasco01
                SBR Sharp
                • 01-18-10
                • 325

                #77
                Anyone like the Evans/Davis distance prop?
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Fiasco01
                  Anyone like the Evans/Davis distance prop?
                  Yep already got over 20 units on it
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                  • Wrecked
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 05-31-11
                    • 887

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Vaughany

                    Yep already got over 20 units on it
                    Risky imo, I think Rashad may catch Davis.
                    But that could just be wishful thinking on my part.
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                    • Vaughany
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 03-07-10
                      • 45563

                      #80
                      Originally posted by Wrecked
                      Risky imo, I think Rashad may catch Davis.
                      But that could just be wishful thinking on my part.
                      Not risky when I hedge it with Evans by TKO/KO at +450
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                      • Wrecked
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 05-31-11
                        • 887

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Vaughany

                        Not risky when I hedge it with Evans by TKO/KO at +450
                        You're such a gentleman.
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                        • GunShard
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-05-10
                          • 10027

                          #82
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                          • MMAbetMASTA
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-24-11
                            • 1931

                            #83
                            damn.....that sucks.

                            well sheeeiiit, I'll go for tito/rashad if everone else at lhw is booked. Very short notice, but its kinda a win/win situation for tito and he's not in a bad spot condition-wise from his last fight. I know many people would hate this match up, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens like they suggest.
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                            • Educ8d Degener8
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-12-10
                              • 3177

                              #84
                              I'm guessing Machida steps up.
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                              • Wrecked
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 05-31-11
                                • 887

                                #85
                                Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                I'm guessing Machida steps up.
                                I'd love it.

                                I'm so bummed, this was my lock of the night, and I was planning to make my first "big" play on Davis V Rashad.

                                Damn....
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                                • Kaladarus
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-11-09
                                  • 1876

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Wrecked
                                  I'd love it.

                                  I'm so bummed, this was my lock of the night, and I was planning to make my first "big" play on Davis V Rashad.

                                  Damn....
                                  I was also looking forward to a big play on Rashad. Already have money on him at -115, this kind of sucks.
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                                  • Wrecked
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 05-31-11
                                    • 887

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Kaladarus

                                    I was also looking forward to a big play on Rashad. Already have money on him at -115, this kind of sucks.
                                    Yeah it does man....
                                    I would much rather watch him fight Machida though (as a fan).
                                    I don't think I would touch that fight if it does so happen.
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                                    • Kaladarus
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-11-09
                                      • 1876

                                      #88
                                      I guess we'll have to wait and see a line. I most likely will still be on Rashad, but it probably will be just a small play.
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                                      • JuicedUp
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-20-10
                                        • 3396

                                        #89
                                        Tito Ortiz was offered the fight and turned it down.
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                                        • Kaladarus
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-11-09
                                          • 1876

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by JuicedUp
                                          Tito Ortiz was offered the fight and turned it down.
                                          Tito's burned out from the back and forth battle he had with Bader. He probably needs to get like 3 or 4 surgeries and take a year or 2 off before stepping back into the octagon.
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                                          • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-25-08
                                            • 7237

                                            #91
                                            We better not hear Tito say he wants his belt back no more. This was his chance to beat a contender.

                                            As for Evans looksmlike he may not get that title shot for a while with another loss to Machida
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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by Wrecked
                                              You're such a gentleman.
                                              Scratch tht, looks like I wont be doing that play!
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                                              • reformed
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-18-10
                                                • 1384

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                Scratch tht, looks like I wont be doing that play!
                                                hook a brother up with a winner. wiman screwed me last time!
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                                                • koscheckbaby
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-05-10
                                                  • 1314

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by JuicedUp
                                                  Tito Ortiz was offered the fight and turned it down.
                                                  Tito doesn't treat the sport like a fight IMO, which is OK. He seems to like the 9 week training camp and whole peaking thing. He's big on nutrition as well. Has he ever taken a fight on short notice? Not a knock, it's just not his thing.

                                                  Also, Tito is a huge LHW, so making that big cut again so soon probably isn't something he wants to be doing.

                                                  I'll give him a pass. He certainly shouldn't be scared of Rashad and I doubt he is.
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by reformed
                                                    hook a brother up with a winner. wiman screwed me last time!
                                                    Saffiedine and Woodley when the odds come out
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                                                    • MMAbetMASTA
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-24-11
                                                      • 1931

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                                      damn.....that sucks.

                                                      well sheeeiiit, I'll go for tito/rashad if everone else at lhw is booked. Very short notice, but its kinda a win/win situation for tito and he's not in a bad spot condition-wise from his last fight. I know many people would hate this match up, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens like they suggest.
                                                      yeeeuup... http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Ort...-UFC-133-33936

                                                      He would have been an idiot to have turned it down, it really is a win - win situation for him. Not necessarily thrilled on this, but like I said I'll go for it!!!
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                                                      • Mr.Kitty
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-10-09
                                                        • 1880

                                                        #97
                                                        Matt Hamill (10-3 MMA, 9-3 UFC) has replaced Vladimir Matyushenko (25-5 MMA, 7-3 UFC) and now meets fellow light heavyweight Alexander Gustafsson (11-1 MMA, 3-1 UFC) at UFC 133.

                                                        Hopefully Hamill comes out as the favorite.
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                                                        • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 08-25-08
                                                          • 7237

                                                          #98
                                                          Rashad goes from a -130 against Davis to a +245 against Machida, and all the way down to a -450 against Ortiz all in the same card
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                                                          • Vaughany
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                            • 45563

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by Mr.Kitty
                                                            Matt Hamill (10-3 MMA, 9-3 UFC) has replaced Vladimir Matyushenko (25-5 MMA, 7-3 UFC) and now meets fellow light heavyweight Alexander Gustafsson (11-1 MMA, 3-1 UFC) at UFC 133.

                                                            Hopefully Hamill comes out as the favorite.
                                                            Yeah would take The Mauler as dog
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                                                            • danso
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-26-10
                                                              • 2224

                                                              #100
                                                              Missed out on when they posted the line for Evans vs Machida. Cool to see
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                                                              • koscheckbaby
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-05-10
                                                                • 1314

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                Yeah would take The Mauler as dog
                                                                Yeah. Hamill seems way too stiff for the athletic Gustaffson.
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                                                                • The HOFF
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-02-08
                                                                  • 4847

                                                                  #102
                                                                  UFC 133 has experienced another high-profile loss in the light heavyweight division as Antonio Rogerio Nogueira has been forced to withdraw from a planned matchup with Rich Franklin.

                                                                  The UFC is currently seeking a replacement opponent for "Ace."
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                                                                  • danso
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 10-26-10
                                                                    • 2224

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Damn I was liking ace as the underdog vs lil nog
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                                                                    • Mr.Kitty
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-10-09
                                                                      • 1880

                                                                      #104
                                                                      f\*\*k, they are dropping like flies! Maybe Hamill/Franklin rematch is happening now, would rather see Gustafsson meet Franklin but I doubt that will happen. Hopefully they´ll find someone so nobody gets axed from the card.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by The HOFF
                                                                        UFC 133 has experienced another high-profile loss in the light heavyweight division as Antonio Rogerio Nogueira has been forced to withdraw from a planned matchup with Rich Franklin.

                                                                        The UFC is currently seeking a replacement opponent for "Ace."
                                                                        FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! Had a guaranteed 30 units profit arb from tht fight
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