UFC on Versus 4

sirchadwick1 · 06-22-11, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

Completely agree here.

Absolutely! I'm throwing another 2u on Morecraft at +225. Really hard not to at that price.
Why everyone is overpaying for Mitrione, I have no idea.

Kaladarus · 06-22-11, 06:02 PM

I really wanted to play Mitrione, but it's very hard with the line moving the way it is. Putting a small play on Morecraft. At the +244 he is now at pinnacle it's hard not to see some value.

thesox0311 · 06-22-11, 06:08 PM

Im not going to bet on Mitrione due to the line...but i dont see a chance in hell that Morecraft wins this fight

Nick The Greek · 06-22-11, 06:47 PM

This line kind of reminds me of Madsen/Russow from a few months back where the books had Russow as high as +250 for some reason.

I'm with Morecraft all the way. Mitrione has improved a lot since TUF but he still gets hit way too much.

omalley21 · 06-22-11, 06:48 PM

I think Mitrione wins. Wish I jumped on -190 when I saw it.

Thewiseman · 06-22-11, 07:45 PM

On Morecraft here for a small play.

Beelzebubzy · 06-22-11, 09:19 PM

i think the Morecraft line will get better, Mitrione is a UFC name at this point and will get betted because of his name

koscheckbaby · 06-22-11, 11:46 PM

I'll come out and admit it, I'm willing to lay the chalk on Mitrione. I just don't think Morecraft is good enough to beat him. I didn't expect the line to be close, since I think Mitrione's dominant striking display over Hague carries more weight than Morecraft's victory over McCorkle. I love Mitrione's straight punches. The guy is quick and accurate with his shots. He's getting better and better each fight too. He's worked his wrestling a lot no doubt.

I don't care if Mr. Fuji threw salt in Morecraft's eyes prior to Struve hitting him, the fact is he's got a TKO loss to that piece of shit. Mitrione would put Struve in a coma.

Thewiseman · 06-23-11, 01:52 AM

I think Mitrione should be Favored and will probably win, but I like the odds on Morecraft, I bet just under .25u to win .5u

sirchadwick1 · 06-23-11, 06:55 AM

Anyone else making a small parlay play on these guys? I think they all have a very legit chance.. so I'm giving it a shot.

6/26/2011 11:00 PM UFC Fighting 1102 Nate Marquardt* +110 vs Rick Story
6/26/2011 10:30 PM UFC Fighting 1202 Cheick Kongo* -200 vs Pat Barry
6/26/2011 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1301 Matt Brown* +215 vs John Howard
6/26/2011 9:00 PM UFC Fighting 1401 Christian Morecraft* +225 vs Matt Mitrione

Risking $10.00 To Win $312.48

illmatick · 06-23-11, 07:53 AM

I have almost the exact parlay except I included Dominck Cruz. Definitely think that's a +EV parlay. Maybe do the same parlay with Story by decision in place of Nate as well.

koscheckbaby · 06-23-11, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

Anyone else making a small parlay play on these guys? I think they all have a very legit chance.. so I'm giving it a shot.

6/26/2011 11:00 PM UFC Fighting 1102 Nate Marquardt* +110 vs Rick Story
6/26/2011 10:30 PM UFC Fighting 1202 Cheick Kongo* -200 vs Pat Barry
6/26/2011 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1301 Matt Brown* +215 vs John Howard
6/26/2011 9:00 PM UFC Fighting 1401 Christian Morecraft* +225 vs Matt Mitrione

Risking $10.00 To Win $312.48

Not a terrible parlay for sure. I like a few different guys, but that's not a very inconceivable 4 fight results.

scofflaw · 06-23-11, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

6/26/2011 11:00 PM UFC Fighting 1102 Nate Marquardt* +110 vs Rick Story
6/26/2011 10:30 PM UFC Fighting 1202 Cheick Kongo* -200 vs Pat Barry
6/26/2011 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1301 Matt Brown* +215 vs John Howard
6/26/2011 9:00 PM UFC Fighting 1401 Christian Morecraft* +225 vs Matt Mitrione

Risking $10.00 To Win $312.48

I put Morecraft in a bunch of parlays and I think you can make a better one. Matt Brown in there could sink the ship. Having Morecraft in there boosts the payout enough imo. I favor Story, Kongo, Howard, Morecraft.

I don't think Howard is a good value though, I used Guillard instead on some.

Nick The Greek · 06-23-11, 11:31 AM

Nik Lentz +175 vs Charles Oliveira -215
Manny Gamburyan +205 vs. Tyson Griffin -255

Those are a couple good looking dogs up on Bookmaker.

SBRtv Judie · 06-23-11, 11:33 AM

Cheers for the info guys!

Thewiseman · 06-23-11, 01:49 PM

Kongo 1.55u to win 1u
Brown .48u to win 1u
Morecraft .22u to win .5u
Gamburyan .23u to win .5u
Vazquez .27u to win .5u
Lentz .56u to win 1u
Lauzon 1.2u to win .5u
Roberts .45u to win .5u
Faaloloto .15u to win .5u

Ladle · 06-23-11, 02:06 PM

Vazquez at +180 is nice. Definitely some live dogs on this card.

illmatick · 06-23-11, 02:18 PM

haha, I admire that Faalolto play.

Johnson doesn't deserve that price tag over anyone in the UFC. The UFC is just banking on the fact that they hopefully brought in someone shitty enough to help build up one of their tuf finalists.

Johnson probably takes this one but I see him getting bounced from the UFC real soon.

Ladle · 06-23-11, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

haha, I admire that Faalolto play.

Johnson doesn't deserve that price tag over anyone in the UFC. The UFC is just banking on the fact that they hopefully brought in someone shitty enough to help build up one of their tuf finalists.

Johnson probably takes this one but I see him getting bounced from the UFC real soon.

Agreed. And as he's fighting in such a talent-dense division, it's very difficult to give him the Amir Sadollah treatment. I think he's heading to the pink slip derby after his next fight.

Thewiseman · 06-23-11, 03:46 PM

Yeah, no way he should be favored that much, and he wont be around long, he will robably win this foght, but had to bet against him at those odds

Kaladarus · 06-23-11, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

Anyone else making a small parlay play on these guys? I think they all have a very legit chance.. so I'm giving it a shot.

6/26/2011 11:00 PM UFC Fighting 1102 Nate Marquardt* +110 vs Rick Story
6/26/2011 10:30 PM UFC Fighting 1202 Cheick Kongo* -200 vs Pat Barry
6/26/2011 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1301 Matt Brown* +215 vs John Howard
6/26/2011 9:00 PM UFC Fighting 1401 Christian Morecraft* +225 vs Matt Mitrione

Risking $10.00 To Win $312.48

This parlay looks good. I'm with you on all those fights and will probably make the same play or one similar to it.

R6MC · 06-23-11, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Thewiseman

Kongo 1.55u to win 1u
Brown .48u to win 1u
Morecraft .22u to win .5u
Gamburyan .23u to win .5u
Vazquez .27u to win .5u
Lentz .56u to win 1u
Lauzon 1.2u to win .5u
Roberts .45u to win .5u
Faaloloto .15u to win .5u

where'd you get Kongo at those odds at this point? lol nice post

Thewiseman · 06-23-11, 07:48 PM

it was sunday i believe, on 5dimes

sirchadwick1 · 06-23-11, 09:06 PM

Wiseman, we're on the exact same plays. Every one of them. It's a good time to play the dogs!

Thewiseman · 06-23-11, 09:17 PM

Oh Yeah!!

THE_LOCKSMITH · 06-23-11, 09:32 PM

this could be it for Joe Stevenson if he dosn't get the win, he's lost 3 in a row and 5 of his last 7

Squareguy · 06-23-11, 09:39 PM

What is the deal with Roberts being the underdog?

I figured he would be -160 or so

Beelzebubzy · 06-23-11, 11:10 PM

Wiseman why the Lauzon pick?
He has never faced a LNP wrestler and has gassed before against Soti and Stout

Thewiseman · 06-23-11, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Wiseman why the Lauzon pick?
He has never faced a LNP wrestler and has gassed before against Soti and Stout

Lauzon brings it. Ivadmit I don't know a lot about Warburton, I think ihe comes out, gets it to the ground and submits him in the 1st, he gasses against Stout, but that was his fight back after knee surgery, and vs G.S., he pushed a severe pace, and had went hard on the ground with George on top of him also.

Thewiseman · 06-23-11, 11:40 PM

He might gas late in the fight, but I think he ends it early

Ladle · 06-24-11, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by Squareguy

What is the deal with Roberts being the underdog?

I figured he would be -160 or so

Attonito is a considerably better striker and probably has decent enough wrestling to keep the fight standing. Also, Roberts has a dismal gas tank. I think we could see Attonito really put a beating on a tiring Roberts if it goes past the first round.

Beelzebubzy · 06-24-11, 07:16 AM

did anyone see Natal vs Attonito fight?

v1y · 06-24-11, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by illmatick

haha, I admire that Faalolto play. Johnson doesn't deserve that price tag over anyone in the UFC. The UFC is just banking on the fact that they hopefully brought in someone shitty enough to help build up one of their tuf finalists. Johnson probably takes this one but I see him getting bounced from the UFC real soon.

gtfo.

michael johnson beat pablo garza in the house who is 2-1 in zuffa.

illmatick · 06-24-11, 07:59 AM

don't be so mad little fella. It's only a game.

I'll give you a free gym membership if Johnson's still in the ufc after his next 3 fights.

Ladle · 06-24-11, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

did anyone see Natal vs Attonito fight?

Yup. Attonito dropped Natal in the first, which won him the round; the second round was close but Natal edged it by getting a takedown. Attonito got a takedown halfway through the third and pretty much played it safe on top to get the win.

Originally posted by v1y

gtfo.

michael johnson beat pablo garza in the house who is 2-1 in zuffa.

Are you the new troll around here? Did you see Michael Johnson's other fights in the house? No way can this dude hang with even the lower tier UFC lightweights.