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  • brooks85
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-05-09
    • 44709

    #1
    Ufc 123
    Lyoto Machida vs Rampage Jackson
    Jon Jones vs Forrest Griffin


  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #2
    Poor poor Forrest! First Anderson embarrassed him and now Jones is going to!
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    • snake11eyes
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-28-10
      • 618

      #3
      What will the line be anything under -300 and I'm loading up on Bones.
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      • brooks85
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-05-09
        • 44709

        #4
        i wouldnt be surprised to see a -1000 opener
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #5
          ha ye probably -400
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          • Handjuice
            SBR Sharp
            • 05-11-10
            • 329

            #6
            Dana must secretly hate Forrest or something
            "Real fight don't start till round 13, in round thriteen ya asshole locks up, ya balls get tight, and ya don't wanna go another second, that's when the real fight starts"- Mike Mccalum
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            • lasker
              SBR MVP
              • 01-27-10
              • 1683

              #7
              Even at -400, I'd be all over it. Forrest has absolutely nothing for Jones.
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              • KCJMAC
                SBR High Roller
                • 08-03-10
                • 133

                #8
                Shogun, Rampage, and A. Silva opened against Forrest at -320, -265, and -280 respectively. It will be interesting to see what this line opens at after Jones' recent dominant performances.

                Although Jones has some holes in his game, not sure that Forrest is the one to exploit them. I agree with others who note that -400 would be worth taking.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #9
                  May look at Jones by decision. Could be value ther as he has finished his last four opponents, including last three in first round (including the DQ against Hamill but finished him nonetheless) so the bookies are likely to favour Jones by KO/TKO a lot more than Jones by decision. Forrest is going to be a much bigger LHW than Bones has faced before which might make it harder for Jones to finish him. I could see Forrest hanging in ther like Bonnar but gettin totally dominated nonetheless. If its at +250 or better I'll consider it.
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                  • jin2daj
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-01-09
                    • 816

                    #10
                    omg seriously? i feel so bad for forrest.
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                    • Kaladarus
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-11-09
                      • 1876

                      #11
                      Forrest is worse in just about all aspects. He has no KO power and his submission game isn't even close to good enough to threaten Jones. There's no place this fight can go that Forrest can win it. I like Matyushenko's chances in a rematch better than Griffin's chances. Seems like a pretty big waste of time considering it's not that hard to take Griffin down. -1000 on Jones would be a steal. A more realistic line would be some where around -2500.
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                      • Dad
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-26-08
                        • 23245

                        #12
                        This must be the fight before the title fight for Jones.
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                        • Dirty Sanchez
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-01-10
                          • 16031

                          #13
                          I saw Dana in an interview and he didn't mention Forrest for the fight. He mentioned the winner of the Bader/Little Nog fight as a possible opponent. I don't think Dana would risk having Forrest destroyed, like the route of Chuck Liddell.
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                            I saw Dana in an interview and he didn't mention Forrest for the fight. He mentioned the winner of the Bader/Little Nog fight as a possible opponent. I don't think Dana would risk having Forrest destroyed, like the route of Chuck Liddell.
                            Yeee I agree. Would be much better against Bader
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                            • Vrakas
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-27-10
                              • 627

                              #15
                              griffin has one chance to win.he will only win if jones has his arms tied together.I will parlay jones and Lyoto with a combination of other fighters.
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                              • lasker
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-27-10
                                • 1683

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Vrakas
                                griffin has one chance to win.he will only win if jones has his arms tied together.
                                that would increase his chances, but i would take Jones via headkick.
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                                • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-25-08
                                  • 7237

                                  #17
                                  looking like another good card, the word is that UFC 117 is trending near 1 million PPV buys. Looks like a a great middle of the year for the UFC after the weak start
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                                  • clarkd32
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-15-06
                                    • 863

                                    #18
                                    i'd rather see jones vs tito... lmao
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                                    • Nick.Papagiorgio
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 07-27-10
                                      • 25

                                      #19
                                      i might put a very small amount on forrest, jones is young doesnt have a ton of experience. still debating
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                                      • Bill Dozer
                                        www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                        • 07-12-05
                                        • 10894

                                        #20
                                        Two guys coming off big losses are going to headline that card? They must be marketing Jones heavy. This can't be PPV right?
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                                        • stefan084
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-21-09
                                          • 1490

                                          #21
                                          i think it might only be something like -600,-700 range to start for bones--which i'll take
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                                          • illmatick
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 5456

                                            #22
                                            -400 seems about right, Forrest can still take in some money just based off of his name
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                                            • itchypickle
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-05-09
                                              • 21452

                                              #23
                                              easy parlay for Jones and Machida
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                                              • raydog
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-07-07
                                                • 6984

                                                #24
                                                shit, i feel sorry for rampage...jaysus, i see this one being quick and ugly
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                                                • sundin4prez
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                  • 1970

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                  Two guys coming off big losses are going to headline that card? They must be marketing Jones heavy. This can't be PPV right?
                                                  100% its going to be a ppv.... they cant and wont put forrest,rampage and machida on a free show.... free shows usually consist of TUF scrubs , upcoming prospects and or middle of the road guys....
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                                                  • snake11eyes
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 07-28-10
                                                    • 618

                                                    #26
                                                    Matyushenko opened at -500. No way Forrest opens worse than that.
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                                                    • KCJMAC
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 08-03-10
                                                      • 133

                                                      #27
                                                      Yep, I like Jones, but he is still relatively new to the sport, and lacks technique at times. Someone is going to exploit that at some point, and he's going to find himself in a fight. That someone might be Forrest.
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                                                      • PingPong
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-10-08
                                                        • 988

                                                        #28
                                                        rampage needs to bring back the slam if he wants to win
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                                                        • lasker
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-27-10
                                                          • 1683

                                                          #29
                                                          If he wants to slam Machida, first he'll have to get hold of Machida. Not gonna happen. He's too slow; Machida's too fast.
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                                                          • brooks85
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-05-09
                                                            • 44709

                                                            #30
                                                            Rory Mcdonald vs Matt Brown
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                                                            • NOLA42
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 01-27-10
                                                              • 243

                                                              #31
                                                              this card is gonna be awesome, cant wait
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                                                              • Shane
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 02-28-10
                                                                • 466

                                                                #32
                                                                From what I've gathered on the numerous MMA forums, I don't think Forrest is going to fight Jones.
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                                                                • kisado
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-09-08
                                                                  • 519

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Jon Jones wins.
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                                                                  • stefan084
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-21-09
                                                                    • 1490

                                                                    #34
                                                                    machida for anything -300 or less
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                                                                    • brooks85
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 44709

                                                                      #35
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